Thailand Premier League

[BangkokGlassBunny]

Bangkok Glass are "bottom"? That will be a shock to Andy and good news for Svein!

Hey Tor !! Just cos the last 2 games, we've played like we're bottom of the league, doesn't mean that we actually are !!!

[lokomotive]

I reckon you should go to Mor Chit from Pattaya then head up Vipawadee. Yeah the Police Sports complex behind the convention centre type of thing. The stadium is actually pretty good, holds 8000. Wonder why they don't play there all the time.

Police may consider to move there next season. However, the problem might be the flood light.

[wolfman]

On yesterday's matches, does anyone know why Newin's Blue Hordes didn't go to Si Saket yesterday?

If I was wearing my tin-foil hat, I might suggest the fixture has been moved to just before the final round of games so that BPEA didn't have to face a midweek away trip to a team fighting tooth and nail in a relegation scrap, but are gambling that Si Saket will be already relegated, and the fixture would mean little more than pride to them.

[the_englishman]

I may be jumping to conclusions but is Sisaket hard core red shirt territory per chance?

[BangkokGlassBunny]

I may be jumping to conclusions but is Sisaket hard core red shirt territory per chance?

I don't think you are jumping to conclusions. They hired a hell of a lot of police for our game last Sunday because Pathum Thani is predominantly Red's. I don't know the exact number, but I've never seen a police presence like it before at an English match, let alone a Thai match.

Khun Pavin had a few choice words for Buriram and is praying that if we do get past Chonburi in the Toyota, that we do not meet 'The Buriram Circus' again this season.

[66svein]

I may be jumping to conclusions but is Sisaket hard core red shirt territory per chance?

I don't think you are jumping to conclusions. They hired a hell of a lot of police for our game last Sunday because Pathum Thani is predominantly Red's. I don't know the exact number, but I've never seen a police presence like it before at an English match, let alone a Thai match.

Khun Pavin had a few choice words for Buriram and is praying that if we do get past Chonburi in the Toyota, that we do not meet 'The Buriram Circus' again this season.

I think maybe the extra police presence is because of the extra security in Bangkok these days. We had some police too at our game. Or maybe it was because we played Thai Port?

[the_englishman]

I may be jumping to conclusions but is Sisaket hard core red shirt territory per chance?

I don't think you are jumping to conclusions. They hired a hell of a lot of police for our game last Sunday because Pathum Thani is predominantly Red's. I don't know the exact number, but I've never seen a police presence like it before at an English match, let alone a Thai match.

Khun Pavin had a few choice words for Buriram and is praying that if we do get past Chonburi in the Toyota, that we do not meet 'The Buriram Circus' again this season.

I've been told a few comments made from a certain person to Rene. It seems Buriram may take over the mantle of "arch villain" next season.

[BangkokGlassBunny]

I may be jumping to conclusions but is Sisaket hard core red shirt territory per chance?

I don't think you are jumping to conclusions. They hired a hell of a lot of police for our game last Sunday because Pathum Thani is predominantly Red's. I don't know the exact number, but I've never seen a police presence like it before at an English match, let alone a Thai match.

Khun Pavin had a few choice words for Buriram and is praying that if we do get past Chonburi in the Toyota, that we do not meet 'The Buriram Circus' again this season.

I think maybe the extra police presence is because of the extra security in Bangkok these days. We had some police too at our game. Or maybe it was because we played Thai Port?

No, this was VERY different than your average security alert. Newin paid for them all. There must have been 50 in the R1 section alone, which meant 50 less of our fans that could get in. That's not including the rest in the other sections and outside the stadium.

These were just the ones outside the stadium -

[wolfman]

I may be jumping to conclusions but is Sisaket hard core red shirt territory per chance?

Perhaps, but I don't understand why this would be the reason. BPEA still have to make the trip sometime, don't they?
Is Newin more likely to be jumped on a Wednesday than a Saturday? Or are there more police in Si Saket in October than September?

If he's that worried, Newin could just send the team and stay at home, making sure it's announced publicly beforehand.

[SriRachaShark]

I may be jumping to conclusions but is Sisaket hard core red shirt territory per chance?

Perhaps, but I don't understand why this would be the reason. BPEA still have to make the trip sometime, don't they?
Is Newin more likely to be jumped on a Wednesday than a Saturday? Or are there more police in Si Saket in October than September?

If he's that worried, Newin could just send the team and stay at home, making sure it's announced publicly beforehand.

It's scheduled for Wednesday 20th October, three days after they come to us.

[wolfman]

I may be jumping to conclusions but is Sisaket hard core red shirt territory per chance?

Perhaps, but I don't understand why this would be the reason. BPEA still have to make the trip sometime, don't they?
Is Newin more likely to be jumped on a Wednesday than a Saturday? Or are there more police in Si Saket in October than September?

If he's that worried, Newin could just send the team and stay at home, making sure it's announced publicly beforehand.

It's scheduled for Wednesday 20th October, three days after they come to us.

I may be jumping to conclusions but is Sisaket hard core red shirt territory per chance?

Perhaps, but I don't understand why this would be the reason. BPEA still have to make the trip sometime, don't they?
Is Newin more likely to be jumped on a Wednesday than a Saturday? Or are there more police in Si Saket in October than September?

If he's that worried, Newin could just send the team and stay at home, making sure it's announced publicly beforehand.

It's scheduled for Wednesday 20th October, three days after they come to us.

My mistake - I was thinking of the dates in November (cup semis and finals etc) when I wrote that. Still, my point is, was 29 September any less perilous than October 20, politics-wise? 

[glenn_pattaya]

Sorry if I've missed this elsewhere on the board but I saw then program "Say leuat khong ball Thai" at the weekend- "the artery of Thai football" or similar. They had a special on TOT and there was a guy on the program who has been acting as a consultant for TOT- he was really talking up the possibility of TOT moving to Korat - I know this rumour has been around for a while but it was interesting to hear it discussed so openly. He said that this season they had set a target of barely surviving in the league but he made it very clear they saw the future success of the club as building a fan base - something they don't really have at the moment.

[Vinnie]

Sorry if I've missed this elsewhere on the board but I saw then program "Say leuat khong ball Thai" at the weekend- "the artery of Thai football" or similar. They had a special on TOT and there was a guy on the program who has been acting as a consultant for TOT- he was really talking up the possibility of TOT moving to Korat - I know this rumour has been around for a while but it was interesting to hear it discussed so openly. He said that this season they had set a target of barely surviving in the league but he made it very clear they saw the future success of the club as building a fan base - something they don't really have at the moment.

To be honest it doesn't really bother me if they do come as long as the two clubs are kept separate such as the situation in Saraburi.

But if we see a Korat version of what's happened at Buriram then I'll be deeply concerned.

If the guy wants to build a fanbase then he should be at another club. IMO TOT will always be a poorly supported, unfashionable club no matter where they play. And as we've seen at Saraburi and Phichit, a successful RL club will attract better support than mediocre TPL company teams.

[Vinnie]

TOT-Korat v Buriram PEA: The 'phoney' derby.

[BangkokGlassBunny]

Some new information has come to light regarding Buriram's visit to the Leo Stadium last Sunday that has really put them at a new low in my eyes.

As BKK73 (I think) posted a while back when they went to Thai Port, they took more than their allotted allocation of fans and had some outside unable to view the match.

So, what did they do against us..

We gave them the all of the 800 away tickets we can now give following the 'Pattaya incident'. Yet (although we were all unaware at the time) they still brought down well over 1,000+ fans. Where did the remainder go??

Well, outside the main stand last week there was hundreds of our regulars left ticketless for the main R1 cheering section as they had sold out by 4pm.
photos can be seen here: http://www.bangkokglassfc.com/webboard/index.php?showtopic=10077

The R1 section is the main BG 'hardcore' if you like and is usually the same faces every time give or take, so it was a mystery as to why so many regulars couldn't get tickets for this zone.

I'm sure you've worked out by now, but yes,  before they even travelled down, Newin bought hundreds of green shirts and distributed them to Buriram fans, he then made sure their coach turned up early when the tickets went on sale at 2pm and gave them all the money to buy tickets in the home stands.
No wonder he also paid for a huge police presence (which was confirmed at 100) at the game when he knew he could be putting his own fans at risk. The red-shirt thing was just a cover up excuse he gave us as to why they needed so many police with them. 

It wasn't just the R1 section that this happened in either, it was every zone all over the stadium, although R1 was the hardest hit and the most noticable.

It was estimated that all in all about 500 of our fans were unable to watch the game, a lot who had attended every game at the Leo up to that point, which disgusts me, but not nearly as much as the security risk it posed not only to our fans but his more so his own fans.

Just image if he tried to pull this off at Thai Port, there would have been huge riots no question about it.

BG have reported this to the FAT, but apparently there is little they can do, except tell them not to do it again, as it was us (unknowingly) that sold the tickets to them.

So a word of warning to any team who still have PEA to visit.

[BKK73]

Sorry if I've missed this elsewhere on the board but I saw then program "Say leuat khong ball Thai" at the weekend- "the artery of Thai football" or similar. They had a special on TOT and there was a guy on the program who has been acting as a consultant for TOT- he was really talking up the possibility of TOT moving to Korat - I know this rumour has been around for a while but it was interesting to hear it discussed so openly. He said that this season they had set a target of barely surviving in the league but he made it very clear they saw the future success of the club as building a fan base - something they don't really have at the moment.

To be honest it doesn't really bother me if they do come as long as the two clubs are kept separate such as the situation in Saraburi.

But if we see a Korat version of what's happened at Buriram then I'll be deeply concerned.

If the guy wants to build a fanbase then he should be at another club. IMO TOT will always be a poorly supported, unfashionable club no matter where they play. And as we've seen at Saraburi and Phichit, a successful RL club will attract better support than mediocre TPL company teams.

Lets hope that TOT get relegated. That would put a spanner in the works. HaHa!!

[BKK73]

I'm sure you've worked out by now, but yes,  before they even travelled down, Newin bought hundreds of green shirts and distributed them to Buriram fans, he then made sure their coach turned up early when the tickets went on sale at 2pm and gave them all the money to buy tickets in the home stands.

And the 11 lucky ones got to wear their new BG shirts and play against Buriram last week. Just kidding!!


I was in R2 and I didn't notice anything different. If there were Buriram supporters up there they were certainly keeping quiet.
When I was buying the tickets there was a kid wearing a Buriram shirt in front of me. The staff refused to sell him a ticket. I'm sure that was done for show. 

[BangkokGlassBunny]

I'm sure you've worked out by now, but yes,  before they even travelled down, Newin bought hundreds of green shirts and distributed them to Buriram fans, he then made sure their coach turned up early when the tickets went on sale at 2pm and gave them all the money to buy tickets in the home stands.

And the 11 lucky ones got to wear their new BG shirts and play against Buriram last week. Just kidding!!


I was in R2 and I didn't notice anything different. If there were Buriram supporters up there they were certainly keeping quiet.
When I was buying the tickets there was a kid wearing a Buriram shirt in front of me. The staff refused to sell him a ticket. I'm sure that was done for show. 

That's the point, I was in R1 and didn't notice either apart from R1 being quiet, usually the singing zone, but of course, half of them were Buriram fans posing as BG fans and obviously weren't going to sing. No one knew what was going on. It only came to light as to what was going on when they were seen boarding the PEA buses in green shirts.
 

[Vinnie]

Sorry if I've missed this elsewhere on the board but I saw then program "Say leuat khong ball Thai" at the weekend- "the artery of Thai football" or similar. They had a special on TOT and there was a guy on the program who has been acting as a consultant for TOT- he was really talking up the possibility of TOT moving to Korat - I know this rumour has been around for a while but it was interesting to hear it discussed so openly. He said that this season they had set a target of barely surviving in the league but he made it very clear they saw the future success of the club as building a fan base - something they don't really have at the moment.

To be honest it doesn't really bother me if they do come as long as the two clubs are kept separate such as the situation in Saraburi.

But if we see a Korat version of what's happened at Buriram then I'll be deeply concerned.

If the guy wants to build a fanbase then he should be at another club. IMO TOT will always be a poorly supported, unfashionable club no matter where they play. And as we've seen at Saraburi and Phichit, a successful RL club will attract better support than mediocre TPL company teams.

Lets hope that TOT get relegated. That would put a spanner in the works. HaHa!!

Well, that's the thing. I reckon Osotspa, TTM and TOT could all be relegation candidates in the next year or two, and Saraburi, Phichit and Korat are all capable of reaching division 1. I guess the three parasites will just move on to another city in that eventuality.

[SriRachaShark]

Some new information has come to light regarding Buriram's visit to the Leo Stadium last Sunday that has really put them at a new low in my eyes.

As BKK73 (I think) posted a while back when they went to Thai Port, they took more than their allotted allocation of fans and had some outside unable to view the match.

So, what did they do against us..

We gave them the all of the 800 away tickets we can now give following the 'Pattaya incident'. Yet (although we were all unaware at the time) they still brought down well over 1,000+ fans. Where did the remainder go??

Well, outside the main stand last week there was hundreds of our regulars left ticketless for the main R1 cheering section as they had sold out by 4pm.
photos can be seen here: http://www.bangkokglassfc.com/webboard/index.php?showtopic=10077

The R1 section is the main BG 'hardcore' if you like and is usually the same faces every time give or take, so it was a mystery as to why so many regulars couldn't get tickets for this zone.

I'm sure you've worked out by now, but yes,  before they even travelled down, Newin bought hundreds of green shirts and distributed them to Buriram fans, he then made sure their coach turned up early when the tickets went on sale at 2pm and gave them all the money to buy tickets in the home stands.
No wonder he also paid for a huge police presence (which was confirmed at 100) at the game when he knew he could be putting his own fans at risk. The red-shirt thing was just a cover up excuse he gave us as to why they needed so many police with them. 

It wasn't just the R1 section that this happened in either, it was every zone all over the stadium, although R1 was the hardest hit and the most noticable.

It was estimated that all in all about 500 of our fans were unable to watch the game, a lot who had attended every game at the Leo up to that point, which disgusts me, but not nearly as much as the security risk it posed not only to our fans but his more so his own fans.

Just image if he tried to pull this off at Thai Port, there would have been huge riots no question about it.

BG have reported this to the FAT, but apparently there is little they can do, except tell them not to do it again, as it was us (unknowingly) that sold the tickets to them.

So a word of warning to any team who still have PEA to visit.

They are due to come to us in a couple of weeks. I'm sure if they tried to pull such a stunt at our place, the home fans would take matters into their own hands.

[the_englishman]

Some new information has come to light regarding Buriram's visit to the Leo Stadium last Sunday that has really put them at a new low in my eyes.


BG have reported this to the FAT, but apparently there is little they can do, except tell them not to do it again, as it was us (unknowingly) that sold the tickets to them.

So a word of warning to any team who still have PEA to visit.

Again we are stuck in our European way of thinking that if something like this happens, the responsible body will act.

But Newin is a de facto superior to the FA. They will never punish him or his club properly and he knows it. This is what makes Buriram PEA/FC so dangerous.

All those who have hated on MTU and longed for some team to become bigger and better than us may well get their wish next season. Hope they enjoy it.

[charade_2010]

Glass heap misery on BKK Utd

Thai Premier League leaders Muang Thong United were thwarted in an attempt to extend their lead to seven points yesterday when their match against Army was called off due to heavy rain after only three minutes of play.

Bangkok Glass’ Paul Bekombo Ekollo Ntonye forces his way through Bangkok United’s defence at Leo stadium yesterday.

The match commissioner, Col Charnyuth Puthapitak, ruled the pitch at Yamaha stadium unplayable and said the match would have to be played at a later date.

Muang Thong have 58 points after 25 matches, four ahead of their nearest rivals Chonburi FC who could close the gap on the leaders when they host Insee Police United this evening.

At Leo stadium, rampant Bangkok Glass FC claimed all three points with a thumping 4-0 win over bottom club Bangkok United.

Peerapong Pichitchotirat put the Glass Rabbits ahead in the 66th minute before Chartree Chimtalay made it 2-0 five minutes later.

Peerapong claimed his second of the evening in the 86th and Vichaya Dejmitr completed Bangkok United's misery with the fourth goal in the dying seconds.

The Glass Rabbits are fourth in the standings with 43 points from 27 matches while United only have 20 points from the same number of games.

At Thephatsdin stadium, Si Sa Ket FC fought back to stun hosts BEC Tero Sasana 3-2.

Anon Sangsanoi put BEC ahead in the 23rd minute. Si Sa Ket's Korean player Kim Yung Dong equalised two minutes after the re-start. But BEC went ahead four minutes later through Kittipol Papungar. With only three minutes to go, Piyawat Thongmaen put Si Sa Ket back on level terms. Thewa Srithammanusarn then broke BEC's hearts with a winner deep in the 93rd minute which handed Si Sa Ket all three precious points.

At Nong Prue ground, Pattaya United lost 1-0 to Thai Port FC with the only goal from Kiatcharoen Ruanpan in the 37th minute.

[Vinnie]

A vital win for Sisaket against a Tero side who have nothing to play for, and, of course, the two clubs are officially linked...

[the_englishman]

A vital win for Sisaket against a Tero side who have nothing to play for, and, of course, the two clubs are officially linked...

I caught the end of this game while I was walking back from Chula's ground on my way to the skytrain. Sisaket scored two late goals.

[BangkokGlassBunny]

Ok, so I might be asking a naive question that has an obvious answer, but I honestly do not know the reason for it...

Why is the league season played from March - Oct??

I'm assuming it is to do with the AFC Asian Cup and the Suzuki Cup tournaments..?  

On the surface, there is no logic to it at all, starting the league at the hottest time of the year and playing through the rainy season, with the season climax and most important games taking place on pitches not fit to host a mud wrestling competition.

Not to mention the fans (and therefore money) that keep away during these conditions.

Surely a Sept-March season would be better.

It would also mean when Thailand host the world cup the season would not be disrupted  

[druryfire]

Ok, so I might be asking a naive question that has an obvious answer, but I honestly do not know the reason for it...

Why is the league season played from March - Oct??

I'm assuming it is to do with the AFC Asian Cup and the Suzuki Cup tournaments..? 

On the surface, there is no logic to it at all, starting the league at the hottest time of the year and playing through the rainy season, with the season climax and most important games taking place on pitches not fit to host a mud wrestling competition.

Not to mention the fans (and therefore money) that keep away during these conditions.

Surely a Sept-March season would be better.

It would also mean when Thailand host the world cup the season would not be disrupted 

If my memory serves me right, i think the season was once played from Oct - March. No idea why they changed it.

They could have a break for Suzuki Cup and Asian Cup. These tournaments are never set in stone for particular months so it's not like a hindrance as such.

[66svein]

Ok, so I might be asking a naive question that has an obvious answer, but I honestly do not know the reason for it...

Why is the league season played from March - Oct??

I'm assuming it is to do with the AFC Asian Cup and the Suzuki Cup tournaments..? 

On the surface, there is no logic to it at all, starting the league at the hottest time of the year and playing through the rainy season, with the season climax and most important games taking place on pitches not fit to host a mud wrestling competition.

Not to mention the fans (and therefore money) that keep away during these conditions.

Surely a Sept-March season would be better.

It would also mean when Thailand host the world cup the season would not be disrupted 

I also think it would be much better to play September - March, but without rain for a few month there could be very dry and hard pitches around. But to start the season in the hottest time of the year, and then have daily rain for a few month is not any better.

You also mention money they loose when fans stay away due to the conditions. If they were playing September - March they would be playing in the high season for tourists, and at least some of the teams could be getting lots more farang fans.

Anyway, the season should be longer in Thailand. A 3-months break between seasons should be enough, but they could have a 3-4 weeks break half way through the season.
In Norway we play March - November, not possible to play longer because of the winter, but here it`s shorter and hot all the time.

When are the season played in the neighboring countries?

[lokomotive]

Indonesia just start now, Vietnam I think start from beg. of the Year. However, TPL is considering to start the 2011 season earlier than before. Possibly 3/4 February.

[BangkokGlassBunny]

Ugly scenes at the end of the Chonburi - Police match 

[the_englishman]

What happened? I know it was 3-3.

[wolfman]

Ok, so I might be asking a naive question that has an obvious answer, but I honestly do not know the reason for it...

Why is the league season played from March - Oct??

I'm assuming it is to do with the AFC Asian Cup and the Suzuki Cup tournaments..?  

On the surface, there is no logic to it at all, starting the league at the hottest time of the year and playing through the rainy season, with the season climax and most important games taking place on pitches not fit to host a mud wrestling competition.

Not to mention the fans (and therefore money) that keep away during these conditions.

Surely a Sept-March season would be better.

It would also mean when Thailand host the world cup the season would not be disrupted  

I also think it would be much better to play September - March, but without rain for a few month there could be very dry and hard pitches around. But to start the season in the hottest time of the year, and then have daily rain for a few month is not any better.

You also mention money they loose when fans stay away due to the conditions. If they were playing September - March they would be playing in the high season for tourists, and at least some of the teams could be getting lots more farang fans.

Anyway, the season should be longer in Thailand. A 3-months break between seasons should be enough, but they could have a 3-4 weeks break half way through the season.
In Norway we play March - November, not possible to play longer because of the winter, but here it`s shorter and hot all the time.

When are the season played in the neighboring countries?

I've been thinking the same thing during some soakings in recent weeks. Surely part of the season during the dry season makes some sense. <<-- Aah, there's the flaw in this argument.

Korea and Japan play similar seasons to Thailand. (Mar - Oct/Nov)

However, Korea (and I think Japan) usually has about 2 months off around June-July, to skip their 'summer' when it's unbearably hot, and rains heavily at the same time. It also coincides with World Cup and Asian Cup (usually) breaks as well. Their off-season is during their winter from Dec - Feb.

The Asian Cup in January is something I don't understand, unless it's weather related. It was moved to odd-numbered years because it used to clash with the European Championships in June-July, but then this year's Cup will be in January, when it wouldn't have clashed with anything.

[BangkokGlassBunny]

What happened? I know it was 3-3.

I watched until the final whistle and then went into the kitchen so I didn't see fully but what I did see was Chonburi fans spitting on the officials and trying to attack them. Some bottles were thrown at them too. Some Police fans were trying to wind up the Chonburi fans seemed to be reacting.

Also, worrying, although I state I have no idea how it happened, there was a woman PU fan that had to be lifted out and over the barriers and put onto a stretcher. She was put into the foetal position and looked unconscious. It may or may not have been related to the trouble, I can't honestly say.

[jakartacasual]

When are the season played in the neighboring countries?

indo changed a couple of years back - its from october to june. singapore is similar to thai as is malaysia and vietnam

[druryfire]

Ok, so I might be asking a naive question that has an obvious answer, but I honestly do not know the reason for it...

Why is the league season played from March - Oct??

I'm assuming it is to do with the AFC Asian Cup and the Suzuki Cup tournaments..? 

On the surface, there is no logic to it at all, starting the league at the hottest time of the year and playing through the rainy season, with the season climax and most important games taking place on pitches not fit to host a mud wrestling competition.

Not to mention the fans (and therefore money) that keep away during these conditions.

Surely a Sept-March season would be better.

It would also mean when Thailand host the world cup the season would not be disrupted 

I also think it would be much better to play September - March, but without rain for a few month there could be very dry and hard pitches around. But to start the season in the hottest time of the year, and then have daily rain for a few month is not any better.

You also mention money they loose when fans stay away due to the conditions. If they were playing September - March they would be playing in the high season for tourists, and at least some of the teams could be getting lots more farang fans.

Anyway, the season should be longer in Thailand. A 3-months break between seasons should be enough, but they could have a 3-4 weeks break half way through the season.
In Norway we play March - November, not possible to play longer because of the winter, but here it`s shorter and hot all the time.

When are the season played in the neighboring countries?

I've been thinking the same thing during some soakings in recent weeks. Surely part of the season during the dry season makes some sense. <<-- Aah, there's the flaw in this argument.

Korea and Japan play similar seasons to Thailand. (Mar - Oct/Nov)

However, Korea (and I think Japan) usually has about 2 months off around June-July, to skip their 'summer' when it's unbearably hot, and rains heavily at the same time. It also coincides with World Cup and Asian Cup (usually) breaks as well. Their off-season is during their winter from Dec - Feb.

The Asian Cup in January is something I don't understand, unless it's weather related. It was moved to odd-numbered years because it used to clash with the European Championships in June-July, but then this year's Cup will be in January, when it wouldn't have clashed with anything.

Asian Cup is moved to January because of the conditions in Qatar in June / July.

Yet, Qatar would be happy to host a World Cup in June/July because they will use air con stadia, but only one stadium could handle this, this coming January.

2015 should be back to June/July, most likely in Australia.

[druryfire]

Right, I know this is the TPL thread, but here's a few attendances from the Saudi league, apparently one of Asia's strongest leagues.

Week 7:
Nassr v Wehda 4,235
Ahli v Ta'awon 2,500
Week 8:
Hilal v Ittifaq 6,832
Ra'ed v Nassr 6,150
Wehda v Fateh 540


Also according to newspaper reports, Qadessiya v Nassr in week 6 had attendance of 9,323


The big stand out one is Wehda - Fateh with 540!! It does seem like the league has been told to start publishing figures since the AFC were in town last week. Wehda are the only team representing Mecca in the top flight so it's not like they have other clubs to compete with.

Saudi league is strogn from the petro dollars, but the Thai league stands out a lot better with more passion and spectators, only a good thing for the league

[SriRachaShark]

Right, I know this is the TPL thread, but here's a few attendances from the Saudi league, apparently one of Asia's strongest leagues.

Week 7:
Nassr v Wehda 4,235
Ahli v Ta'awon 2,500
Week 8:
Hilal v Ittifaq 6,832
Ra'ed v Nassr 6,150
Wehda v Fateh 540


Also according to newspaper reports, Qadessiya v Nassr in week 6 had attendance of 9,323


The big stand out one is Wehda - Fateh with 540!! It does seem like the league has been told to start publishing figures since the AFC were in town last week. Wehda are the only team representing Mecca in the top flight so it's not like they have other clubs to compete with.

Saudi league is strogn from the petro dollars, but the Thai league stands out a lot better with more passion and spectators, only a good thing for the league

And, by way of comparison, here are Chonburi's figures for this season.
http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/chonburifc/club_news.pl?news=425224

[charade_2010]

Police slap the cuffs on Chonburi's TPL title bid

Second-placed Chonburi dropped important points at home when they were held 3-3 by Police United in the Thai Premier League at Chonburi Physical Education stadium yesterday.

The result means Chonburi are three points behind leaders Muang Thong United who also have two games in hand.

Police took a shock lead in the 11th minute with a penalty from Charkrit Buathong. Chonburi responded strongly at the end of the half with goals from Ekaphan Inthasen and Suree Sukha, making it 2-1 at half-time.

Police came storming back in the second half with Charkrit adding two more goals for his hat-trick to make it 3-2.

Chonburi kept battling away and managed an equaliser in injury time to give them a point.

At Yamaha stadium, hosts TOT CAT edged Samut Songkhram 2-1. Tomas Koza was on target early for the hosts with a seventh minute penalty, while Samut Songkhram FC equalised through Panuwat Yim-sangar in the 58th.

However Vicha Nantasee struck for TOT in the 75th to give his side a 2-1 victory.

At Saraburi stadium, Osotspa M-150 Saraburi drew 1-1 with Navy Rayong. Clinto Silva gave the hosts the lead with a header but Suttinun Nontee equalised for the Navy with a long range shot in the 77th minute.

At the I-Mobile stadium, Buri Ram PEA defeated TTM FC Phichit 2-0.

Suchao Nutnum scored in the 11th minute from the penalty and Douglas Cardozo made it 2-0 in the 77th minute.

[BangkokGlassBunny]

What happened? I know it was 3-3.

http://www.thaileagueonline.com/news.php?id_news=3123&page=1

Translated by my wife the jist is that this woman was hit by rocks thrown by Chonburi fans. 

Police fans were also barricaded by in by Chonburi fans for an hour after the game.

Chonburi fanclub have apologised and paid for her hospital treatment.

[the_englishman]

If that is the case then Chonburi need to be punsihed, sorry Dale. At least one game at another stadium.

[wolfman]

If that is the case then Chonburi need to be punsihed, sorry Dale. At least one game at another stadium.

Given it's the fans, not the players, wouldn't a match behind closed doors be more likely, based on punishments dished out this season?

[Vinnie]

If she was hit by rocks then that suggests the incident occurred outside the stadium. And if it did then the case for closing the ground is a weak one. Is a football club responsible for the behaviour of its fans outside the stadium?

[the_englishman]

If it happened right outside the ground in the vicinity of security, and was directly related to events inside the stadium then yes.

I don't want to be too harsh or to upset my friend Dale but I notice that it was around this time last season Chonburi got banned from their stadium after a Siam Sport reporter was punched, and now this. Both incidents have occurred around the time it started to become clear Chonburi would finish second and not win the league. It seems like Chonburi may have some sore losers in their ranks. That's fine, but getting violent about it is not.

[BangkokGlassBunny]

If she was hit by rocks then that suggests the incident occurred outside the stadium. And if it did then the case for closing the ground is a weak one. Is a football club responsible for the behaviour of its fans outside the stadium?

It was inside the stadium.

She was carried down and over the railings onto a stretcher on the pitch.

[Vinnie]

If she was hit by rocks then that suggests the incident occurred outside the stadium. And if it did then the case for closing the ground is a weak one. Is a football club responsible for the behaviour of its fans outside the stadium?

It was inside the stadium.

She was carried down and over the railings onto a stretcher on the pitch.

That's a different matter then. Thanks for the confirmation.

[SriRachaShark]

After the incident last season, which happened on the car park, we were made to play our last home match at Supachalasai. The club did request to play the game behind closed doors at Srindhorn but were turned down.

Therefore, it's my guess we'll have to play our last two home matches at a neutral venue and possibly without any home fans in attendance. If that is the case, where do I (and a couple of hundred others) stand regarding admission, as I/we've already paid for our tickets?

I must admit, I've always been with Brian Clough on this one. Surely you punish the one(s) responsible for allegedly throwing the rock(s) and not everybody else? "If there's a robbery in Marks and Spencers, you don't close down Marks and Spencers, you catch the robbers and send them to prison."

[glenn_pattaya]

I'm always amazed at how these things kick off. 99.9% of the time the fans are great and unbelievably friendly - it is one of the joys of following Thai football mixing with the oppo fans (hand shakes, pictures taken, wais). However sometimes the most stupid little thing starts trouble. For example the Japanese flag at Bangkok Glass V Pattaya (how stupid was that to get upset about). It is usually the refereeing decisions that are the catalyst but it is very unusual for fans to get at each other to this extent - I wonder what went wrong. Surely Chonburi had already accepted that the title was heading to MT? Strange one this.

[wolfman]

I think there's something right near the end of the article that says a Police fan threw a glass/cup at Chonburi player Sukree Ite as he left the pitch after the game - perhaps that kicked things off?

[the_englishman]

Dale you raise a good point. Why should the majority get punished for the actions of a minority? I think part of the problem is the 'groupthink' mentality that exists at football games. I'm sure we've all been in situations where we do or say something at a game of football that we realise was silly later.

Anyway has the rock thrower been identified? Surely he should go to prison?
Also, Andy tells us that home fans blocked Police fans from leaving and also spat at the officials. If so, how many people did this? If it was more than a few, then it does seem difficult not to punish the club.

BTW this wasn't the only trouble this weekend. Chula V Raj nearly boiled over at full time but luckily security handled the situation well. They surrounded the linesman and ref and took them off quickly and allowed Raj fans to approach them but without letting them get too near.

[SriRachaShark]

Here's my take on what happened. It's a bit sketchy but it might help to join a few dots.

There was a growing perception amongst the Chonburi fans that the ref was favouring the away side. I don't really subscribe to this myself. He was poor - erratic is probably a better word - but in fairly equal doses.

There was a certain amount of gamesmanship from Police Utd, which grew as the second half went on and aggravated the home supporters. Their centre half is a particularly nasty piece of work. Our last minute equaliser came as a result of us playing on when a Police defender was lying on the ground expecting us to put the ball out. When he realised that the ref had awarded the goal, he leapt to his feet and ran towards the linesman with about four or five of his team-mates.

At the final whistle there was a mixture of joy and relief, plus some anger directed at the officials. As they were escorted off the pitch, I saw one water bottle (half full) and one plastic cupful of water thrown in their direction. The rest of the crowd were waving their arms in the usual manner, telling people to stop. I didn't see any spitting and the tunnel is only a few yards from where I was standing.

As the Chonburi players went over to the Police fans there seemed to be some sort of altercation - possibly the cup/bottle throwing? - but I didn't see what happened. There was then a surge of Chonburi fans from behind the goal towards the Police fans in the corner. From my vantage point it seemed little more than shouting and gesturing. I didn't see anything thrown.

However, a minute or so later, the away fans started coming down off the terraces, over the barriers and on to the pitch. Maybe this indicates that the alleged rock was thrown into the ground from outside the stadium - there is no roof on the away stand.

We stayed for a few minutes, watching the Police fans and players milling around on the pitch but nothing much happened.

Outside the ground you had the usual cluster of people waiting by the player's entrance. The vast majority were totally unaware of what was happening elsewhere and just wanted to get photos, autographs etc. There were one or two shouts about the referee but nothing that doesn't get shouted most weeks after matches. We stood around for a few minutes before leaving.

[Vinnie]

There was a certain amount of gamesmanship from Police Utd, which grew as the second half went on and aggravated the home supporters. Their centre half is a particularly nasty piece of work. Our last minute equaliser came as a result of us playing on when a Police defender was lying on the ground expecting us to put the ball out. When he realised that the ref had awarded the goal, he leapt to his feet and ran towards the linesman with about four or five of his team-mates.

'Spirit of Gentlemen'.