The Ultimate Asean Football Declaration

[bon-nirnam]

Everyone in and around Asean knew and accepted that Thailand was once the deminant force. For that reason, beating Thailand in a championship battles as did so by Singapore and then Vietnam, conceivably, on the top of football satisfaction for other association. Do you think above statement is true or other teams don's really care as long as they win and even more happy to see Thailand stumble early out of the way, say, like in Tiger Cup in Malaysia and this recent Suzuki Cup 2010?

[druryfire]

I think when your winning, be it Singapore, Vietnam or Malaysia in actually winning through, then they will tell you they don't care what happens to Thailand, but I think every nation is happy when a nation like Thailand stumbles by the side.

I remember the 2008 edition, i was happy to see Singapore fall by the side. There is part of me that wants to see all the big teams get through and meet each other and a part where i like to see teams stumble and go out to make it seem that little bit easier.

2010 edition was a good edition, it was the tournament where the little boys could pull there weight. The Laos-Thailand result was amazing, but i think this could be a one off, I don't know where Laos go from here and I think they caught a tired Thai team out.

The Phills, they kept the momentum going and I guess a poor decision to play two games in Indonesia could have been there killing.

But it does amaze me really that we now have upto 5 or 6 teams that could be on a par with each other, but when they go out of the region there is in my opinion only Thailand who could handle themselves. I think the Malaysians or whomever know this and there happy to win locally to cover the bigger gaps in there game.

Thailand are like a Germany or Italy in the ASEAN region, you need them in it, they are the team to beat even if they are in our out of form and you know to well if you don't kill them off early, they will come back to haunt you.

[jakartacasual]

when thailand played lao in jakarta the fans were cheering lao but i think that's only natural, football fans often support the underdog

obviously when i say football mans i dont mean the sheep who follow teams cos theyre famous

[bon-nirnam]

Weeks before FFA Cup, there were some discussion  on Singapore football website about wanting to see Australia join in. There are those who wrote only Thailand can compete with Australia. Even Malaysia's fans felt the same way. I was't as convince as those fans and still am not. But it is through that I Thailand normally not get blow away by oponents outside Asean(that often :-) ).  Philippines is an interesting case. After their unpresidented success, they just heading for building the whole new program with a new coach. Obvviously, there recent surprise success was largely due to telents from abroad. Will they have the patience for the new program to yield fruit after they have had the taste of considerable success remain to be seen. The same go to Singapore with their new plan with equal risks. 

[Vinnie]

But it does amaze me really that we now have upto 5 or 6 teams that could be on a par with each other, but when they go out of the region there is in my opinion only Thailand who could handle themselves. I think the Malaysians or whomever know this and there happy to win locally to cover the bigger gaps in there game.

Exactly the point I've made before. I can't stand the parochial attitude in ASEAN football. Malaysia had a public holiday after winning the Suzuki Cup FFS!

[jakartacasual]

But it does amaze me really that we now have upto 5 or 6 teams that could be on a par with each other, but when they go out of the region there is in my opinion only Thailand who could handle themselves. I think the Malaysians or whomever know this and there happy to win locally to cover the bigger gaps in there game.

Exactly the point I've made before. I can't stand the parochial attitude in ASEAN football. Malaysia had a public holiday after winning the Suzuki Cup FFS!

i like it. taps into the patriotism all countries here try to inffuse into their people and a day off is never a bad thing

better than bloody uk where everything is done to help the money men and nothing to help the poor. a little bit of populism is never a bad thing once in a while

[bon-nirnam]

Parochial attitude of ASEAN Football and everything else in life is one frustrating factor handed to me and my fellow klans. Learning to appreciate affordable success with respect to cultural believe and practice hasn't been easy, never will be. For those of us with multi-culture exposure and living it, would conceivably have advantage of understanding but accepting it, that's a different story.   As for patriotic too much of that would appear idiotic as we have seen but amazingly football managed to grow as if nothing happen.  Uk? BBC reported yesterday that people are now realised that while the rest are struggling bank execs continue to compiling millions in bonuses. They've just realised, I beg your pardon! The elites haven't stop despite the sheriff of Nottingham had already long gone. Long Live King Richard!!! :-)  As far as ASEAN football is concerned, I like the development with Philippines. Let them bring in not so elite players from abroad so that football managerial folks around here can wake up.

[Vinnie]

But it does amaze me really that we now have upto 5 or 6 teams that could be on a par with each other, but when they go out of the region there is in my opinion only Thailand who could handle themselves. I think the Malaysians or whomever know this and there happy to win locally to cover the bigger gaps in there game.

Exactly the point I've made before. I can't stand the parochial attitude in ASEAN football. Malaysia had a public holiday after winning the Suzuki Cup FFS!

i like it. taps into the patriotism all countries here try to inffuse into their people and a day off is never a bad thing

better than bloody uk where everything is done to help the money men and nothing to help the poor. a little bit of populism is never a bad thing once in a while

I don't have a problem with the patriotism. I've been to (I think) every competitive home match ther senior side has played since I moved to Thailand and (glutton for punishment!) I intend to make the 7 hour round trip to watch the U23s play their Olympics qualifying preliminary round match next month. It's just the disproportionate level of importance that SEA nations attach to the SEA Games and AFF Cup that disappoints me.