The Thai Football Show in English

[Nigb]

The skeleton of a  project we are working to get up for the new season that's had me MIA

comments, suggestions, criticisms and any help welcome 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPOAFSe1b0A

[BangkokGlassBunny]

The skeleton of a  project we are working to get up for the new season that's had me MIA

comments, suggestions, criticisms and any help welcome 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPOAFSe1b0A

Nice work Nig. It's really impressive for a pilot.

I really hope it is successful for you and for Thai Football.

Great work.

Let me know when you want me on

[the_englishman]

Really enjoyed it Nig. It's a bit like "Football Crazy" on ESPN but just for Thailand :-)

Just one thing you might want to work on, I heard a lot of "umms" and "errrs" during the show but I understand it was test run and you were all on new ground.

Good work!

[druryfire]

It seemed great Nig.

Of course, test run, so just like Greg a lot of ''umms and ''errrs'', but big thumbs up for doing something like this. Can't wait for the next snippet.

One flaw, reading results from the paper. Maybe have a screen behind you that has Powerpoint showing the results?

[lokomotive]

It seemed great Nig.

Of course, test run, so just like Greg a lot of ''umms and ''errrs'', but big thumbs up for doing something like this. Can't wait for the next snippet.

One flaw, reading results from the paper. Maybe have a screen behind you that has Powerpoint showing the results?

I would leave the background as he is. The show was recorded at a clubs house, which is a good idea, and thats why it shall look like a club house. But maybe there is a possibility to have ticker running at the bottom, like on SSTV.

I was not bothered by the ums and errs. I see that a lot in Germany if you have such kind of discussion rounds about football. And it can give some kind of a real life touch, instead of a pro made show. I really liked the "amatuer" club house touch atmosphere. I enjoyed to watch the show.

The only thing is the light. There was too much in the background, and less in the foreground. There was one cup right behind Mika on the right side which was glimmering, cause one of the lights were fallen directly on it. It could be a bit annoying.

Overall, great show, great concept.

[glenn_pattaya]

Well done - really enjoyed it - have you got a network interested yet?

[SriRachaShark]

Good to see you've FINALLY got the pilot made. And, as a pilot, it's fine. However, other than the fact that it's a show about Thai football in English, there isn't really anything that distinguishes it from the hundreds of other shows of its kind that are on tele.

You may want to think about the set - settees with football shirts hanging in the background and on the table has been done to death. You need to establish a "look" that people can readily identify with and identify with the show. It doesn't necessarily have to have a football themed stage. Be a bit more imaginative, or get out of the studio altogether.

The format too needs a bit more thought. Again it's very similar to all those other shows. Guests on the couch, two presenters etc etc

I hope I'm not coming across as being too negative, because I think it's a great idea, but the pilot is for the kind of show that I personally would switch off. If the intention is for it to be a way of getting across information, then I guess it will work OK. But if you want to entertain as well, you certainly need to spice it up a little for me.

[Nigb]

thanks for all the comments and suggestions. Yes the setting and format are the things we are working on to make it a little more 3 dimensional, as I said it's a skeleton of the show so far.
Not confirmed yet which channel for the show, but have a couple of minutes on NBT11 starting next Saturday. We are chatting to some cable channels, bit of time to figure it out. The sponsors is the other fun pursuit that we have to do, if anyone has a contact who want a proposal let me know.
Yes everyone is welcome on, farang fans and studio audience will probably be one direction we'll go.
Any additional thoughts or specific suggestions feel free to pm me.

[SriRachaShark]

"Not confirmed yet which channel for the show, but have a couple of minutes on NBT11 starting next Saturday."

There's your angle. You could all turn up wearing flak jackets and carrying gas masks.

[jakartacasual]

i did consider something like this for jakarta casual tv but was looking at more outside work...but not sure i got a tv face!

but its a good idea and hope it goes well for ya

[Nigb]

Cheers for that JC.... maybe could combine some stuff from Indo too

here is the clip of our first segment (finally done)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5fgAaFx7s8

We should have a new one out every Thursday afternoon on the website.

I think we'll expand on this rather than the other format.

once again.... any thoughts or suggestions?

[lokomotive]

Do I understand you right that this was a final show and will be on T-Sport and NBT 11 in this format? And than every week? So that clip above is this the final official version?

[Nigb]

Do I understand you right that this was a final show and will be on T-Sport and NBT 11 in this format? And than every week? So that clip above is this the final official version?

I played around with that one, this one went up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fUnCQV1crk

[lokomotive]

Do I understand you right that this was a final show and will be on T-Sport and NBT 11 in this format? And than every week? So that clip above is this the final official version?

I played around with that one, this one went up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fUnCQV1crk

Thanks Nigel, so I hope there wasn't any wrong doing putting the previous one my website? Fortunately the theme of your show were fitting to an article of mine. 

[wolfman]

Good to see you've FINALLY got the pilot made. And, as a pilot, it's fine. However, other than the fact that it's a show about Thai football in English, there isn't really anything that distinguishes it from the hundreds of other shows of its kind that are on tele.

You may want to think about the set - settees with football shirts hanging in the background and on the table has been done to death. You need to establish a "look" that people can readily identify with and identify with the show. It doesn't necessarily have to have a football themed stage. Be a bit more imaginative, or get out of the studio altogether.

The format too needs a bit more thought. Again it's very similar to all those other shows. Guests on the couch, two presenters etc etc

I hope I'm not coming across as being too negative, because I think it's a great idea, but the pilot is for the kind of show that I personally would switch off. If the intention is for it to be a way of getting across information, then I guess it will work OK. But if you want to entertain as well, you certainly need to spice it up a little for me.

I'm with SRS on this. Nothing personal, but I'd love to see a show about Thai football, that actually shows some football. Sort of a Match of the Day type thing. As far as I'm aware the closest thing we've got is 'Sai Leuat Ball Thai' on T-Sport. Two guys talking sh*t for 20 minutes, a couple of goals, said guys talking sh*t again, a few more goals, some drooling over teh sponsor's boots on display in front of the setees, more talking,  a few more goals.... you get the picture. (On this note, if I'm looking in the wrong place for my Thai footy fix, please put me right).

And don't get me started on 'Heart of Goals'. From what I've seen, that show has an even less tenuous grip on the football show genre than 'Football Crazy'.

[lokomotive]

@ Wolfman, don't forget that you probably need to pay money for the broadcasting rights in order to run such a show. And I doubt that Nigel is rich as Newin ;-)

[druryfire]

I'd actually like to see some sort of program that takes the fans into the heart's of the teams. Show us the ground, show us even a training session.

There's many football grounds, one week you could be at TOT's ground, give some reasoning behing the reason's they don't use it, give the viewers a look around, then the following week take us somewhere big, Yamaha and then go really low, go to the RL, show us the likes of Pathum Thani, tell the normal Thai fan who hasn't heard of them, who they are, the background, where they play. How it's different.

I don't think you need a program of goals, goals goals. Or what people eat pre match, but show us the background of the game.

Maybe have a section that looks back at previous seasons, as no normal thai fan will no anything before 2009. Tell them about Thai Farmers Bank and being double Asian Winners. Make them believe it can happen again. Tell them about AFC Criteria, Vision Asia, Wowrai Makudi's mad ideas.

I guess my ideas are taking the program from a non serious, funny ha ha outlook to a more thinking mans program. Maybe hard to watch in long spans.

But I don't know the audience, but the audience I think your aiming at can see programs like this all the time and after a while  they kind of loose interest (or i do anyway) because it's everywhere. So maybe a move elsewhere into teritory that might be hard for people to grasp to to begin with but will be totally different

[lokomotive]

I'd actually like to see some sort of program that takes the fans into the heart's of the teams. Show us the ground, show us even a training session.

There's many football grounds, one week you could be at TOT's ground, give some reasoning behing the reason's they don't use it, give the viewers a look around, then the following week take us somewhere big, Yamaha and then go really low, go to the RL, show us the likes of Pathum Thani, tell the normal Thai fan who hasn't heard of them, who they are, the background, where they play. How it's different.

I don't think you need a program of goals, goals goals. Or what people eat pre match, but show us the background of the game.

Maybe have a section that looks back at previous seasons, as no normal thai fan will no anything before 2009. Tell them about Thai Farmers Bank and being double Asian Winners. Make them believe it can happen again. Tell them about AFC Criteria, Vision Asia, Wowrai Makudi's mad ideas.

I guess my ideas are taking the program from a non serious, funny ha ha outlook to a more thinking mans program. Maybe hard to watch in long spans.

But I don't know the audience, but the audience I think your aiming at can see programs like this all the time and after a while  they kind of loose interest (or i do anyway) because it's everywhere. So maybe a move elsewhere into teritory that might be hard for people to grasp to to begin with but will be totally different

...where is my damn "like it" facebook button?

[slefevre91]

Hi, just want to ask a quick question and thought it was appropriate to ask here. Where can I watch Thai Premier League games online? A reliable website, please! Cheers.

[druryfire]

I'd actually like to see some sort of program that takes the fans into the heart's of the teams. Show us the ground, show us even a training session.

There's many football grounds, one week you could be at TOT's ground, give some reasoning behing the reason's they don't use it, give the viewers a look around, then the following week take us somewhere big, Yamaha and then go really low, go to the RL, show us the likes of Pathum Thani, tell the normal Thai fan who hasn't heard of them, who they are, the background, where they play. How it's different.

I don't think you need a program of goals, goals goals. Or what people eat pre match, but show us the background of the game.

Maybe have a section that looks back at previous seasons, as no normal thai fan will no anything before 2009. Tell them about Thai Farmers Bank and being double Asian Winners. Make them believe it can happen again. Tell them about AFC Criteria, Vision Asia, Wowrai Makudi's mad ideas.

I guess my ideas are taking the program from a non serious, funny ha ha outlook to a more thinking mans program. Maybe hard to watch in long spans.

But I don't know the audience, but the audience I think your aiming at can see programs like this all the time and after a while  they kind of loose interest (or i do anyway) because it's everywhere. So maybe a move elsewhere into teritory that might be hard for people to grasp to to begin with but will be totally different

...where is my damn "like it" facebook button?

I like it loko but i guess im one of these that can like it but dont really need to see it because im a supporter of the league and feel i already know it.

I would watch every week if i felt that i was going to learn something, but to be honest this kind of show isn't for me, its not a bad show and its what the tv networks want, whereas what i want the networks wouldnt and the average fan wouldnt aswell.

I think nigb is onto a winner aslong as hes paid, if he aint paid then i think he needs to pull out and work on something else. Aslong as he gets paid he can and should produce as little as possible so when the networks pull it he can come back bigger and better

[Nigb]

Actually I was thinking on exact same lines as df was saying.
This segment is on air on NBT on Saturday mornings as part of the "Inside Sport Program" and "Monday Sport" on T-Sport supported by the presenter Theppitak who is trying to support the promotion of the game in English... bless him.
I have a long term vision. Firstly we offer an avenue for Thais to get to know and hear the thoughts of the foreigners in the league. After that we want to make a show that bridges the language barrier and create a relaxed environment for people in Thai football to express themselves freely (as possible) and get inside the game. Also we want to make a show that is of interest in regional countries and expand the knowledge and interest. The popularity of Thailand as a destination and the popularity of football can be explored.
Yes we need an income to cover costs and give us the opportunity to expand, for this we need sponsors so if anyone knows of anyone who may want to support the league through the show let me know.
Anyway we have a bit of time and testing things before we go for something more detailed, ideas are appreciated.

[jakartacasual]

show us even a training session

training sesions are dull df. i posted one from gombak united and no bugger watched i...let alone me

http://jakartacasualtv.blogspot.com/2010/03/gombak-united-training.html

i find the most traffic comes from clips that focus on the football culture which just happens to be my preference anyway. asking someone how they feel after they lost 6-0 i'll leave to the experts at sky sports

[Nigb]

ok the new segment is out (every Thurs)
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j06Xw1lg4JE&feature=player_embedded

[Nigb]

Anyone have any suggested questions to ask the players and management for the next batch of interviews?

[Vinnie]

Anyone have any suggested questions to ask the players and management for the next batch of interviews?

How about an interview with the Buriram owner?

I've got a few questions for him.

[wolfman]

Nigb - What time is the Monday Sport programme on?

[Nigb]

It's on "Monday Sport" at 1pm on T-Sport. Not exactly prime time, but a start.
Here is the next clip "The Foreign Player Limit"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_YryNAwlU

[Nigb]

OK I know there has been a absence of 2 weeks... but we are still on air and on the internet weekly.
Here is the latest

"Comparing Thai Football"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPHB748BQsc

[jakartacasual]

lacking nigb's sophisticated techniques and editing, two hours in the pub after thegame, here's the latest from indonesia

http://jakartacasualtv.blogspot.com/2010/10/persija-v-persib.html

[Nigb]

Here is an interview with Rene on the new format, simplified show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEzzZ-2NGrI&feature=player_embedded

from www.thaileaguefootball.com

[Nigb]

Latest show with Zesh and Robert 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXpVim7DfVQ