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« Reply #300 on: November 06, 2010, 10:32:04 PM »

Saturday's result:
Osotsopa 4-1 Pattaya
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« Reply #301 on: November 07, 2010, 08:44:57 PM »

We wont get rid of em. League Cup to be played next year as well.
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« Reply #302 on: November 07, 2010, 08:46:44 PM »

Sunday:
Port 1-1 Bangkok Utd  (agg 3-3, Port on away goals)
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« Reply #303 on: November 07, 2010, 09:13:18 PM »

Sunday:
Port 1-1 Bangkok Utd  (agg 3-3, Port on away goals)

Thai Port v Bangkok Glass semi final on the cards.
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« Reply #304 on: November 08, 2010, 05:48:19 PM »

Si Saket 2-4 PEA

Si Saket will have to be the first TPL side (just the second all season) to win away at I-Mobile so I can collect from Greg Wink

Also, Bangkok Glass 2-2 Navy-Rayong (agg 2-2, Navy on away goals)

Instead of a BG-Port rematch, Port fans get to take on the Navy ones (Although I did see this fixture at PAT Stadium earlier this season, with no trouble at all).
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« Reply #305 on: November 08, 2010, 06:28:57 PM »

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The winner of the TLC has already been arranged, as has the winner of  TPL 2011.
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« Reply #306 on: November 08, 2010, 10:45:12 PM »

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The winner of the TLC has already been arranged, as has the winner of  TPL 2011.
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Then, I guess the big question is who gets the other AFC spot in 2012, once the 'club who stole football' do the double/treble?
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« Reply #307 on: November 10, 2010, 09:04:12 PM »

3rd semi-finalist found.

Pattaya 0-2 Osotspa (agg 1-6)
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« Reply #308 on: November 11, 2010, 08:30:16 PM »

Buriram-PEA 3-0 Si Saket (agg 7-2)

Semis are:
 
PEA v Osotspa
Navy v Port

No dates/times up yet, but given the final is supposed to be the 21st (at last report), I imagine first legs will over the weekend, and 2nd legs midweek next week.
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« Reply #309 on: November 12, 2010, 06:09:52 AM »

Only Port can stop PEA now but it won't happen.
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« Reply #310 on: November 12, 2010, 06:45:08 AM »

I can't believe this competition is still going on. Who ever wins, I don't think matters, It's the worst run competition in history.
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« Reply #311 on: November 12, 2010, 01:51:27 PM »

Sunday 14th November
TLC Semi-finals 1st Legs
Osotspa v PEA 4:00pm T-Sport
Navy Rayong v Thai Port 5:00pm FBSTV
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« Reply #312 on: November 12, 2010, 03:20:55 PM »

I can't believe this competition is still going on. Who ever wins, I don't think matters, It's the worst run competition in history.

Yeah it's the worst run competition since.....the 2010 Thai FA Cup.

If they continue with it next season, let's hope it's better organized.
 
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« Reply #313 on: November 12, 2010, 05:37:29 PM »

Only Port can stop PEA now but it won't happen.

do you think the tp fans might have a go at the hired hordes from the north east?!
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« Reply #314 on: November 12, 2010, 05:39:41 PM »

Only Port can stop PEA now but it won't happen.

do you think the tp fans might have a go at the hired hordes from the north east?!

That's a good question, especially if you take into account the "underlying politics" hypothesis.
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« Reply #315 on: November 12, 2010, 09:00:11 PM »

Only Port can stop PEA now but it won't happen.

do you think the tp fans might have a go at the hired hordes from the north east?!

That's a good question, especially if you take into account the "underlying politics" hypothesis.

Almost certainly. I was at the TP v PEA game a couple of months ago and there was a large feeling of animosity directed towards Newin from sections of Klong Toey Army.
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« Reply #316 on: November 14, 2010, 06:41:50 PM »

Osotspa 2-6 PEA

Some dodgy refereeing helping PEA beat 10 man Osotspa. I tuned in at 35 minutes, with M-150 up 2-1. Just before halftime, PEA were award a freekick. Despite the ref almost standing on top of the fouled Suchao, PEA were allowed to take a quick kick from another 4-5 metres up the pitch, and gained a corner. From the corner, Douglas scored from a free header. After halftime, there were 4 quick yellow cards for the home side. The first was questionable, for Phaitum, as he seemed to play through the ball. However, there was no doubt about his seocnd, and he received a red card. Osotspa's Mensah, then got an odd card. He slid through a PEA player, but the ref waved play on as M-150 cleared the ball from defence. PEA got the ball on halfway and kicked it out. The ref then went back & booked Mensah. It was bookable, but I couldn't understand the 'play on' decision.
PEA's 3rd goal was a mile offside, and knocked the stuffing out of Osotspa. A couple of minutes later, it was 4-2 (a hint of offside about this, but replays weren't clear). The 5th was another free header from a corner, and the 6th was another that could have been offside.

I don't think a single PEA player was booked. They got away with a couple of off the ball hits which were missed by the officials, and Cleiton was chopped while going through on attack usually the tackle would result in a yellow).

They might as well start engraving the trophy now, based on today's officiating.
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« Reply #317 on: November 14, 2010, 07:16:59 PM »

Get used to it. It's just going to get worse and worse. The TFA will do nothing. The only way to deal with it may be through a mass, multi-club fan protest but the Thais seem to have a "mai pen rai" reaction to it. That could change though.
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« Reply #318 on: November 14, 2010, 07:34:34 PM »

It's interesting with the comments, because no doubt PEA are a good team, champions in 2008.

The offside decisions, FAT need to look at and maybe not give a stern warning to the linesman, but give more training to show they are trying to stomp it out. And then we have free headers that score goals, it's unfortuante that these goals are overlooked.

I'm sure that PEA doing well, will generate more interest in the league next year and maybe it will take another league championship or PEA to go back to normal, I'm sure a championship for Newin would make him happy and pull out.
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« Reply #319 on: November 14, 2010, 08:21:49 PM »

I've only watched PEA play a handful of times this season, and until today, haven't felt the referees have overly favoured them. However, someone made the comment when they had the brawl with Army, that we'd see more as they know can get away with it, and they do seem to be getting away with cheap shots.

PEA have won 3 of the matches I've seen comfortably, but crucial debatable 'offside goals' have helped twice. (Today, and v BEC). Sure, the officials are making poor decisions against them, but they don't seem to be as influential on the result.
As druryfire says, they do seem to be a good side, and they have plenty of decent players, but all the off-field rubbish is creating a rod for their own backs, and casting doubt on any success they do have. 
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« Reply #320 on: November 14, 2010, 08:24:46 PM »

Oh, and in the other match:

Navy-Rayong 3-1 Thai Port
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« Reply #321 on: November 14, 2010, 08:28:18 PM »

Osotspa 2-6 PEA

Some dodgy refereeing helping PEA beat 10 man Osotspa. I tuned in at 35 minutes, with M-150 up 2-1. Just before halftime, PEA were award a freekick. Despite the ref almost standing on top of the fouled Suchao, PEA were allowed to take a quick kick from another 4-5 metres up the pitch, and gained a corner. From the corner, Douglas scored from a free header. After halftime, there were 4 quick yellow cards for the home side. The first was questionable, for Phaitum, as he seemed to play through the ball. However, there was no doubt about his seocnd, and he received a red card. Osotspa's Mensah, then got an odd card. He slid through a PEA player, but the ref waved play on as M-150 cleared the ball from defence. PEA got the ball on halfway and kicked it out. The ref then went back & booked Mensah. It was bookable, but I couldn't understand the 'play on' decision.
PEA's 3rd goal was a mile offside, and knocked the stuffing out of Osotspa. A couple of minutes later, it was 4-2 (a hint of offside about this, but replays weren't clear). The 5th was another free header from a corner, and the 6th was another that could have been offside.

I don't think a single PEA player was booked. They got away with a couple of off the ball hits which were missed by the officials, and Cleiton was chopped while going through on attack.

They might as well start engraving the trophy now, based on today's officiating.

I watched the 2nd half of Navy v Thai Port on FBS. Again there were a couple of dodgy penalty decisions that looked debatable.
The first was a penalty awarded to Navy. It was given when Navy were 2-1 up. It looked like the TP defender made contact with the ball but the ref gave a pen. It happened so quickly and I'd give the ref the benefit of the doubt. The penalty was converted to make it 3-1.
5 mins later, Sarayoot was clean through and was taken out by the Navy keeper. It appeared to be about 1 yard into the box but the ref awarded a free kick just outside the box.
I'd like to think the refereeing mistakes were down to incompetence rather than something else. .
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« Reply #322 on: November 14, 2010, 08:46:59 PM »

I've only watched PEA play a handful of times this season, and until today, haven't felt the referees have overly favoured them. However, someone made the comment when they had the brawl with Army, that we'd see more as they know can get away with it, and they do seem to be getting away with cheap shots.

PEA have won 3 of the matches I've seen comfortably, but crucial debatable 'offside goals' have helped twice. (Today, and v BEC). Sure, the officials are making poor decisions against them, but they don't seem to be as influential on the result.
As druryfire says, they do seem to be a good side, and they have plenty of decent players, but all the off-field rubbish is creating a rod for their own backs, and casting doubt on any success they do have. 

I never really suspected or even considered anything until the PEA V MTU game. But during the game it became increasingly strange. When the referee blew his whistle at 90 minutes on the dot when the goalkeeper had just had his third rolling around session for over a minute less than twenty seconds before, that was when I became absolutely certain what had been going on. Seeing the goal for Buriram on video simply reinforced that. Tidbits of information I get fed from inside MTU have concreted it and built a large moat around the outside.
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« Reply #323 on: November 14, 2010, 09:18:12 PM »

I'd like to think the refereeing mistakes were down to incompetence rather than something else. .

Me too.
As I said, it's the off-field stuff that is creating doubt about what's happening on the pitch.
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« Reply #324 on: November 14, 2010, 09:26:45 PM »

I'd like to think the refereeing mistakes were down to incompetence rather than something else. .

Me too.
As I said, it's the off-field stuff that is creating doubt about what's happening on the pitch.

Buriram murdered BG twice this season on the pitch fair and square. Nothing dodgy at all. Whether we like it or not, they are are VERY good team on the pitch and here to stay (at least until Newin gets bored).
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« Reply #325 on: November 15, 2010, 01:22:58 PM »

I've only watched PEA play a handful of times this season, and until today, haven't felt the referees have overly favoured them. However, someone made the comment when they had the brawl with Army, that we'd see more as they know can get away with it, and they do seem to be getting away with cheap shots.

PEA have won 3 of the matches I've seen comfortably, but crucial debatable 'offside goals' have helped twice. (Today, and v BEC). Sure, the officials are making poor decisions against them, but they don't seem to be as influential on the result.
As druryfire says, they do seem to be a good side, and they have plenty of decent players, but all the off-field rubbish is creating a rod for their own backs, and casting doubt on any success they do have.  

I never really suspected or even considered anything until the PEA V MTU game. But during the game it became increasingly strange. When the referee blew his whistle at 90 minutes on the dot when the goalkeeper had just had his third rolling around session for over a minute less than twenty seconds before, that was when I became absolutely certain what had been going on. Seeing the goal for Buriram on video simply reinforced that. Tidbits of information I get fed from inside MTU have concreted it and built a large moat around the outside.

For me it was the incident at Chonburi where a PEA player (an African - don't know his name) threw the ball in the ref's face in a fit of pique. I mean, that is a straight red card, with probable further sanctions to come, anywhere, in any league, in the world.
What was strangest was the way the ref 'handled' the incident. Having just bounced the ball off the ref's forehead, the player, probably realising he had gone too far, withdrew from the scene. The ref sprinted after him and you thought "here comes the red card". Instead, once the ref caught up with him, he made some ridiculously theatrical over-the-top 'don't do that again' gestures and walked away from the player. The look on Ney Fabiano's face was one of utter disbelief.

I had some doubts about the rumours until that incident. I mean, bad offside calls can be explained away as touch-and-go decisions that linesmen frequently get wrong in any league and at any level. But assualting a referee and not even getting booked...  
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« Reply #326 on: November 15, 2010, 01:43:30 PM »

There were certainly whispers about it during the early parts of the season. However, people now seem to be talking quite openly about it.

As others have said, they are a decent team but the murkier aspects of the club will always leave them open to suspicion.

Such a shame.
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« Reply #327 on: November 16, 2010, 06:23:12 AM »

how many penalties have they been awared? that's quite a common way refs favour some teams, them and free kicks

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« Reply #328 on: November 17, 2010, 09:28:43 PM »

And then there were two:

Thai Port 4-1 Navy-Rayong (agg 5-4)
Buriram-PEA 2-1 Osotspa (agg 8-3)

Final on Sunday 21st, 4pm at Supachalasai (fortunately Buriram FC are scheduled for Saturday this week)
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« Reply #329 on: November 17, 2010, 09:28:55 PM »

Tried to get into the Port match but without success. A number of Port fans were there, peering through the stand, and over fences. I tried to blag my way into the main stand, but they told me I needed a ticket, and pointed to a woman selling them behind me. She informed me that she was only selling to Rayong fans, and as a neutral I couldn't get one. I found out later there were only 200, so fair enough. The guards told me I could get in over the other side, so I went back, only to be sent back to where I'd started. This time, there were a few other neutral Thais also trying to get in. We were told again to try the other side, and when we got there the bloke we'd talked behind the main stand was already there, and things looked good for a few moments. Then he disappeared, and we were back to square one. I eventually gave up at kickoff.

The strangest thing was they kept telling the Thais I'd met they could get in if they had tickets from Tero or Osotspa. We didn't understand until just before kickoff about 20 supporters in BEC Tero shirts bowled up with tickets and were allowed in. Odd, just odd.

The funniest bit was one of the Thai blokes with me, bitching about how it was poor form that a foreigner (me) was trying to get in and watch Thai football, but being mucked about, and sent from side to side twice.  At one stage he wanted to see Dr. Vijit on my behalf. Brilliant.
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« Reply #330 on: November 17, 2010, 10:06:27 PM »

Quick question, given all the security concerns around the FA Cup, how are they going to organise the League cup seating and ticket allocations in 4 days? Especially as it's the league's most peaceful fans from Klong Toey involved, at a match in which many feel the result is pre-ordained.

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« Reply #331 on: November 18, 2010, 07:42:39 AM »

Quick question, given all the security concerns around the FA Cup, how are they going to organise the League cup seating and ticket allocations in 4 days? Especially as it's the league's most peaceful fans from Klong Toey involved, at a match in which many feel the result is pre-ordained.

No problem! Newin has bought all the tickets. Wink

That's a shame. I was going to sit at the end that was at least going to win the fights. Wink
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« Reply #332 on: November 18, 2010, 08:23:05 AM »

so you are going to sit with the buriram fans,and not the klong toy army please don't make me laugh BURIRAM  WE ARE NOT SCARED OF ANYONE
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« Reply #333 on: November 18, 2010, 01:26:04 PM »

Quick question, given all the security concerns around the FA Cup, how are they going to organise the League cup seating and ticket allocations in 4 days? Especially as it's the league's most peaceful fans from Klong Toey involved, at a match in which many feel the result is pre-ordained.



What is the ticket situation for the final? I assume the Thai Port fans will be allowed to attend. If so, does anybody know where I can buy tickets for the Thai Port section before Sunday?
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« Reply #334 on: November 18, 2010, 01:31:22 PM »

Quick question, given all the security concerns around the FA Cup, how are they going to organise the League cup seating and ticket allocations in 4 days? Especially as it's the league's most peaceful fans from Klong Toey involved, at a match in which many feel the result is pre-ordained.



What is the ticket situation for the final? I assume the Thai Port fans will be allowed to attend. If so, does anybody know where I can buy tickets for the Thai Port section before Sunday?

I would guess the PAT Stadium or Suphachalasai. Probably the former.
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« Reply #335 on: November 18, 2010, 01:48:28 PM »

Quick question, given all the security concerns around the FA Cup, how are they going to organise the League cup seating and ticket allocations in 4 days? Especially as it's the league's most peaceful fans from Klong Toey involved, at a match in which many feel the result is pre-ordained.



What is the ticket situation for the final? I assume the Thai Port fans will be allowed to attend. If so, does anybody know where I can buy tickets for the Thai Port section before Sunday?

I would guess the PAT Stadium or Suphachalasai. Probably the former.

Yep, that's what I was thinking. I'll try the PAT Stadium.

 
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« Reply #336 on: November 19, 2010, 09:34:16 AM »

Quick question, given all the security concerns around the FA Cup, how are they going to organise the League cup seating and ticket allocations in 4 days? Especially as it's the league's most peaceful fans from Klong Toey involved, at a match in which many feel the result is pre-ordained.



What is the ticket situation for the final? I assume the Thai Port fans will be allowed to attend. If so, does anybody know where I can buy tickets for the Thai Port section before Sunday?

I would guess the PAT Stadium or Suphachalasai. Probably the former.
why not sit with the best fans in the country or maybe you like sitting with thugs.KLONG TOY ARMY JUST CLOWNS.
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« Reply #337 on: November 19, 2010, 09:51:27 AM »

why not sit with the best fans in the country or maybe you like sitting with thugs.KLONG TOY ARMY JUST CLOWNS.

Well, you've convinced me with that argument.

 Do I get a free shirt, ticket and bus ride?
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this must be the famous klong toy army
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« Reply #340 on: November 19, 2010, 02:09:41 PM »

Quick question, given all the security concerns around the FA Cup, how are they going to organise the League cup seating and ticket allocations in 4 days? Especially as it's the league's most peaceful fans from Klong Toey involved, at a match in which many feel the result is pre-ordained.



What is the ticket situation for the final? I assume the Thai Port fans will be allowed to attend. If so, does anybody know where I can buy tickets for the Thai Port section before Sunday?

I would guess the PAT Stadium or Suphachalasai. Probably the former.
why not sit with the best fans in the country or maybe you like sitting with thugs.KLONG TOY ARMY JUST CLOWNS.

I'd prefer to watch the singing and dancing hordes of PEA Buriram rather than be part of it. The constant aerobic routines would wear me out.

I just hope that there is no trouble on the day and that the best team wins.  Smiley
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« Reply #341 on: November 19, 2010, 02:22:30 PM »

Quick question, given all the security concerns around the FA Cup, how are they going to organise the League cup seating and ticket allocations in 4 days? Especially as it's the league's most peaceful fans from Klong Toey involved, at a match in which many feel the result is pre-ordained.



What is the ticket situation for the final? I assume the Thai Port fans will be allowed to attend. If so, does anybody know where I can buy tickets for the Thai Port section before Sunday?

I would guess the PAT Stadium or Suphachalasai. Probably the former.
why not sit with the best fans in the country or maybe you like sitting with thugs.KLONG TOY ARMY JUST CLOWNS.

I'd prefer to watch the singing and dancing hordes of PEA Buriram rather than be part of it. The constant aerobic routines would wear me out.

I just hope that there is no trouble on the day and that the best team wins.  Smiley
i would like to thank you for your last comment i to would not like to see any trouble and also may the best team WIN.and believe me it is hard work jumping up and down for 2 and a half hours but great fun,and 8 or 9 cans of chang beer helps.
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« Reply #342 on: November 20, 2010, 02:23:17 PM »

Quick question, given all the security concerns around the FA Cup, how are they going to organise the League cup seating and ticket allocations in 4 days? Especially as it's the league's most peaceful fans from Klong Toey involved, at a match in which many feel the result is pre-ordained.



What is the ticket situation for the final? I assume the Thai Port fans will be allowed to attend. If so, does anybody know where I can buy tickets for the Thai Port section before Sunday?

I would guess the PAT Stadium or Suphachalasai. Probably the former.
why not sit with the best fans in the country or maybe you like sitting with thugs.KLONG TOY ARMY JUST CLOWNS.

I'd prefer to watch the singing and dancing hordes of PEA Buriram rather than be part of it. The constant aerobic routines would wear me out.

I just hope that there is no trouble on the day and that the best team wins.  Smiley
i would like to thank you for your last comment i to would not like to see any trouble and also may the best team WIN.and believe me it is hard work jumping up and down for 2 and a half hours but great fun,and 8 or 9 cans of chang beer helps.

Got tickets from the Thai Port club shop. Prices were 200 Baht for the Main Stand and 100 Baht for the rest of the stadium. PEA have the North Stand(nearest to the sky train) and Thai Port the South.
I'm pretty sure they don't let you take beer into the stadium. That will mean a binge session before the game and during halftime.
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« Reply #343 on: November 20, 2010, 05:44:19 PM »

we are ready Wink

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« Reply #344 on: November 20, 2010, 06:54:48 PM »

Is  it on TV?
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« Reply #345 on: November 20, 2010, 07:11:58 PM »

Is  it on TV?

Yes and rather than the more important FA Cup final next week it will be on channels you are able to watch from outside of Thailand.  Cry
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« Reply #346 on: November 20, 2010, 07:19:08 PM »

Yes. Channel 9 and T-Sport, 4pm
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« Reply #347 on: November 20, 2010, 07:32:22 PM »

Tried to get into the Port match but without success.


next time pm me Wink
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« Reply #348 on: November 20, 2010, 07:42:50 PM »

Talking about live TV, I've just seen that the Thai Port manager is the pundit on True again tonight. I thought he'd be at home doing his last minute preparations for tomorrow's final.  He must be confident of winning tomorrow Smiley
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« Reply #349 on: November 20, 2010, 08:23:13 PM »

Tried to get into the Port match but without success.


next time pm me Wink
Thanks. It was my own fault really. I knew about the ban, but completely forgot about it until I bowled up to the stadium.
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