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I'm not in favour of seeding. It seems to take away a lot of the fun and the "luck of the draw". In my opinion they should just get on with it and draw the balls out of the bag. I actually enjoyed Chonburi's match against Phitsanulok the other night and I'm certainly looking forward to our two encounters with Bkk Glass. I still think that this tournament could be a big hit. I just hope they can iron out a few of the wrinkles.
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« Reply #151 on: September 05, 2010, 09:43:21 PM » |
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And I think that with the exception of Vinnie, we've been looking at this from a big team's view. Nonthaburi FC fans loved their game against BG.The home leg was a fantastic atmosphere.
Yes they took a tiny number of fans for the sceond leg but I think that was because of the two goal gap, the weather and the relatively low income of Eka fans.
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« Reply #152 on: September 05, 2010, 11:24:14 PM » |
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I realise that I'm setting myself up here but I think that this competition could actually turn out to be quite successful. Once they iron out all the teething problems it may prove to be very popular.
However, some sensible management is required at this point. Situations such as the one that wolfman has pointed out need to be avoided.
No Thai cup competition will be successful until the whole of Thailand are involved. Southern clubs will never take any cup serious until there is some kind of incentive. Which is generally cash in the pocket before they take the field. What I would like to see is a Regional League cup which tests the RL sides against each other so we can see a real winner come out on top, other than some sides hiding behind there own Regional Leagues (again, two legged). |
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« Reply #153 on: September 06, 2010, 06:28:10 AM » |
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Pattaya United or Bang Phra as you so entertainingly call us (gosh how we chuckle when we read that) - are also a TPL club. Why no bold type  ? Have we made you angry again?? BKK-Mackem is not the only jerk who uses the name Bang Phra instead of Pattaya United. I know it wasn't right when Bang Phra were taken over, giving Pattaya a fast track to the Premier League in 2009. Bangkok Glass did the same but their old name isn't used. And what of all the clubs who have changed names and moved on to different cities, why arn't their former names used. Get over it! This is Thailand its their football not farangs. |
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« Reply #154 on: September 06, 2010, 08:45:13 AM » |
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I realise that I'm setting myself up here but I think that this competition could actually turn out to be quite successful. Once they iron out all the teething problems it may prove to be very popular.
However, some sensible management is required at this point. Situations such as the one that wolfman has pointed out need to be avoided.
No Thai cup competition will be successful until the whole of Thailand are involved. Southern clubs will never take any cup serious until there is some kind of incentive. Which is generally cash in the pocket before they take the field. What I would like to see is a Regional League cup which tests the RL sides against each other so we can see a real winner come out on top, other than some sides hiding behind there own Regional Leagues (again, two legged). Regional rounds for the qualifiers makes perfect sense. I think they still do this in the early rounds of the English League Cup. Then the prize money for winning would provide at least one incentive. |
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« Reply #155 on: September 06, 2010, 09:09:28 AM » |
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And I think that with the exception of Vinnie, we've been looking at this from a big team's view. Nonthaburi FC fans loved their game against BG.The home leg was a fantastic atmosphere.
Yes they took a tiny number of fans for the sceond leg but I think that was because of the two goal gap, the weather and the relatively low income of Eka fans.
But wouldn't those lower league clubs/fans like to progress deeper into the draw, before getting their payday? If they then cause an upset, then there's a possibility of a quarter-final or semi-final, which will be more lucrative. As Vinnie pointed pointed out earlier, the way the round of 64 was set up was clearly to favour the TPL and Div 1 teams - all were guaranteed to meet a RL side, and play the second leg at home. By all means, seed the FA Cup, as Thailand doesn't need to be embarrassed by an RL side getting thrashed in Asia, but with nothing but prize money at stake (and a chance to play a Japanese side), why not open up the League Cup? |
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« Reply #156 on: September 06, 2010, 09:11:59 AM » |
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Pattaya United or Bang Phra as you so entertainingly call us (gosh how we chuckle when we read that) - are also a TPL club. Why no bold type ? Have we made you angry again?? BKK-Mackem is not the only jerk who uses the name Bang Phra instead of Pattaya United. I know it wasn't right when Bang Phra were taken over, giving Pattaya a fast track to the Premier League in 2009. Bangkok Glass did the same but their old name isn't used. And what of all the clubs who have changed names and moved on to different cities, why arn't their former names used. Get over it! This is Thailand its their football not farangs. Forgive us for taking an interest and having an opinion. |
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« Reply #157 on: September 06, 2010, 12:18:20 PM » |
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« Reply #158 on: September 06, 2010, 03:03:56 PM » |
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Spot the difference. These are all the dates listed for the Toyota Cup round of 32 1st leg match. Toyota League Cup official site 8/9/10 19:00 บางกอกกล๊าส เอฟซี (Bkk Glass) Vs ชลบุรี เอฟซี (Chonburi) Chonburi FC official site 15/9/10 18.00 ชลบุรี เอฟซี (Chonburi) Vs บางกอกกล๊าส เอฟซี (Bkk Glass) Thai League Online 22/9/10 19:00 บางกอกกล๊าส เอฟซี (Bkk Glass) Vs ชลบุรี เอฟซี (Chonburi) :  : |
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« Reply #159 on: September 06, 2010, 03:28:26 PM » |
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Spot the difference. These are all the dates listed for the Toyota Cup round of 32 1st leg match. Toyota League Cup official site 8/9/10 19:00 บางกอกกล๊าส เอฟซี (Bkk Glass) Vs ชลบุรี เอฟซี (Chonburi) Chonburi FC official site 15/9/10 18.00 ชลบุรี เอฟซี (Chonburi) Vs บางกอกกล๊าส เอฟซี (Bkk Glass) Thai League Online 22/9/10 19:00 บางกอกกล๊าส เอฟซี (Bkk Glass) Vs ชลบุรี เอฟซี (Chonburi) : : Will the 2nd leg be played over 3 legs as well?  On the bright side, in a couple of days, it'll be the FA Cup draw we'll all be confused about. |
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« Reply #160 on: September 06, 2010, 03:54:24 PM » |
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Pattaya United or Bang Phra as you so entertainingly call us (gosh how we chuckle when we read that) - are also a TPL club. Why no bold type ? Have we made you angry again?? BKK-Mackem is not the only jerk who uses the name Bang Phra instead of Pattaya United. I know it wasn't right when Bang Phra were taken over, giving Pattaya a fast track to the Premier League in 2009. Bangkok Glass did the same but their old name isn't used. And what of all the clubs who have changed names and moved on to different cities, why arn't their former names used. Get over it! This is Thailand its their football not farangs. Bangkok Glass have always been called Bangkok Glass. Krung Thai Bank had to pull out as the new rules stated that banks couldn't be sports teams - hence why they sold up to Bangkok Glass. Not sure what other clubs your aiming at? TTM? Osotspa? Still same names, different cities yes, but every called for them to get up and move out of Bangkok, they did, so we now complain? Your last statement of ''This is Thailand its their football not farangs.'' Ouuch. Where were they before the boom? Seem's everyone on this board is more qualified on the in's and out's of the Thai game than anyone else. |
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« Reply #161 on: September 06, 2010, 07:14:57 PM » |
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What I would like to see is a Regional League cup which tests the RL sides against each other so we can see a real winner come out on top, other than some sides hiding behind there own Regional Leagues (again, two legged).
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« Reply #162 on: September 06, 2010, 07:15:45 PM » |
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And I think that with the exception of Vinnie, we've been looking at this from a big team's view. Nonthaburi FC fans loved their game against BG.The home leg was a fantastic atmosphere.
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« Reply #163 on: September 06, 2010, 07:16:45 PM » |
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« Reply #164 on: September 06, 2010, 07:46:27 PM » |
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Pattaya United or Bang Phra as you so entertainingly call us (gosh how we chuckle when we read that) - are also a TPL club. Why no bold type ? Have we made you angry again?? BKK-Mackem is not the only jerk who uses the name Bang Phra instead of Pattaya United. I know it wasn't right when Bang Phra were taken over, giving Pattaya a fast track to the Premier League in 2009. Bangkok Glass did the same but their old name isn't used. And what of all the clubs who have changed names and moved on to different cities, why arn't their former names used. Get over it! This is Thailand its their football not farangs. Forgive us for taking an interest and having an opinion. I can't believe something as minor as calling 'Pattaya' 'Bang Phra' has offended you so much. I would have thought that people who have sympathies for Pattaya would have thicker skins. As for "all the clubs who have changed names and moved on to different cities". Examples, please? Which clubs have changed names and moved to new cities? Pattaya United or Bang Phra as you so entertainingly call us (gosh how we chuckle when we read that) - are also a TPL club. Why no bold type ? Have we made you angry again?? BKK-Mackem is not the only jerk who uses the name Bang Phra instead of Pattaya United. I know it wasn't right when Bang Phra were taken over, giving Pattaya a fast track to the Premier League in 2009. Bangkok Glass did the same but their old name isn't used. And what of all the clubs who have changed names and moved on to different cities, why arn't their former names used. Get over it! This is Thailand its their football not farangs. Oh how I laughed when I read your comment. My mistake for quoting the draw on another person's message above mine. Yeah, I'm a jerk. Hoorah! |
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« Reply #165 on: September 06, 2010, 07:49:17 PM » |
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Pattaya United or Bang Phra as you so entertainingly call us (gosh how we chuckle when we read that) - are also a TPL club. Why no bold type ? Have we made you angry again?? BKK-Mackem is not the only jerk who uses the name Bang Phra instead of Pattaya United. I know it wasn't right when Bang Phra were taken over, giving Pattaya a fast track to the Premier League in 2009. Bangkok Glass did the same but their old name isn't used. And what of all the clubs who have changed names and moved on to different cities, why arn't their former names used. Get over it! This is Thailand its their football not farangs. Bangkok Glass have always been called Bangkok Glass. Krung Thai Bank had to pull out as the new rules stated that banks couldn't be sports teams - hence why they sold up to Bangkok Glass. Not sure what other clubs your aiming at? TTM? Osotspa? Still same names, different cities yes, but every called for them to get up and move out of Bangkok, they did, so we now complain? Your last statement of ''This is Thailand its their football not farangs.'' Ouuch. Where were they before the boom? Seem's everyone on this board is more qualified on the in's and out's of the Thai game than anyone else. I've only taken an interest in the league for the last 2 month, so I haven't qualified for my badge yet. I know sod all, so my comments should be ignored. Thank you |
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« Reply #166 on: September 06, 2010, 08:03:06 PM » |
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Pattaya United or Bang Phra as you so entertainingly call us (gosh how we chuckle when we read that) - are also a TPL club. Why no bold type ? Have we made you angry again?? BKK-Mackem is not the only jerk who uses the name Bang Phra instead of Pattaya United. I know it wasn't right when Bang Phra were taken over, giving Pattaya a fast track to the Premier League in 2009. Bangkok Glass did the same but their old name isn't used. And what of all the clubs who have changed names and moved on to different cities, why arn't their former names used. Get over it! This is Thailand its their football not farangs. Bangkok Glass have always been called Bangkok Glass. Krung Thai Bank had to pull out as the new rules stated that banks couldn't be sports teams - hence why they sold up to Bangkok Glass. Not sure what other clubs your aiming at? TTM? Osotspa? Still same names, different cities yes, but every called for them to get up and move out of Bangkok, they did, so we now complain? Your last statement of ''This is Thailand its their football not farangs.'' Ouuch. Where were they before the boom? Seem's everyone on this board is more qualified on the in's and out's of the Thai game than anyone else. I've only taken an interest in the league for the last 2 month, so I haven't qualified for my badge yet. I know sod all, so my comments should be ignored. Thank you Your a welcome member on the board Mackem. You take an interest in the game, your learning the Thai game - we all started somewhere. I have time for you mainly because you haven't posted a message and then run only to re-appear next year. It does seem apparent to myself that our friends that have discontent on this board are all based or holidaying in Pattaya at the time. They come, they give us a mouthful and then they go. The guys on this forum know the thai game very well, probably much better than the people who actually run the game. Personally I think I've done more for Thai football than most Thai's would ever do. The only thing your lacking Mackem, is that blog behind your fave team!! 2011 would be a good season to start - so get behind a team no ones discovered yet!! |
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« Reply #167 on: September 06, 2010, 11:02:58 PM » |
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« Reply #168 on: September 06, 2010, 11:18:45 PM » |
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« Reply #170 on: September 07, 2010, 06:06:28 AM » |
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Spot the difference. These are all the dates listed for the Toyota Cup round of 32 1st leg match. Toyota League Cup official site 8/9/10 19:00 บางกอกกล๊าส เอฟซี (Bkk Glass) Vs ชลบุรี เอฟซี (Chonburi) Chonburi FC official site 15/9/10 18.00 ชลบุรี เอฟซี (Chonburi) Vs บางกอกกล๊าส เอฟซี (Bkk Glass) Thai League Online 22/9/10 19:00 บางกอกกล๊าส เอฟซี (Bkk Glass) Vs ชลบุรี เอฟซี (Chonburi) : : The League Cup Website appears to have been updated. Only 3 games today (7th) Chantaburi v TOT 1-2 Roi Et v Port 1-0 Air Force v MTU 2-0 8th Sept: Thai Honda v Customs 1-0 PTT v Prajinburi 1-0 Chiang Rai Utd v Pattaya 1-1 Nakhon Phanom v Si Saket 2-2 Sri Racha v BEC 0-0 Chula v Samut Songkram 0-2 14th Sept: Nakhon Pathom v Navy Police v Osotspa Narathiwat v Bangkok Utd RBAC v Khon Kaen 15th Sept: Nong Khai v Army Buriram PEA v Kalasin (2nd leg from previous round, currently 1-0) 22nd Sept: BG v Chonburi |
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I realise that I'm setting myself up here but I think that this competition could actually turn out to be quite successful. Once they iron out all the teething problems it may prove to be very popular.
However, some sensible management is required at this point. Situations such as the one that wolfman has pointed out need to be avoided.
Some basic planning skills, and an ability to think things through carefully before making official announcements are all that's required. Oh, and an ability to look at the League and FA Cup fixture lists before these scheduling announcements. Saves all that confusing re-scheduling and constant updating. |
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"Oh, and an ability to look at the League and FA Cup fixture lists before these scheduling announcements. "
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« Reply #174 on: September 07, 2010, 12:50:34 PM » |
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Pattaya United or Bang Phra as you so entertainingly call us (gosh how we chuckle when we read that) - are also a TPL club. Why no bold type ? Have we made you angry again?? BKK-Mackem is not the only jerk who uses the name Bang Phra instead of Pattaya United. I know it wasn't right when Bang Phra were taken over, giving Pattaya a fast track to the Premier League in 2009. Bangkok Glass did the same but their old name isn't used. And what of all the clubs who have changed names and moved on to different cities, why arn't their former names used. Get over it! This is Thailand its their football not farangs. Bangkok Glass have always been called Bangkok Glass. Krung Thai Bank had to pull out as the new rules stated that banks couldn't be sports teams - hence why they sold up to Bangkok Glass. Not sure what other clubs your aiming at? TTM? Osotspa? Still same names, different cities yes, but every called for them to get up and move out of Bangkok, they did, so we now complain? Your last statement of ''This is Thailand its their football not farangs.'' Ouuch. Where were they before the boom? Seem's everyone on this board is more qualified on the in's and out's of the Thai game than anyone else. I've only taken an interest in the league for the last 2 month, so I haven't qualified for my badge yet. I know sod all, so my comments should be ignored. Thank you Your a welcome member on the board Mackem. You take an interest in the game, your learning the Thai game - we all started somewhere. I have time for you mainly because you haven't posted a message and then run only to re-appear next year. It does seem apparent to myself that our friends that have discontent on this board are all based or holidaying in Pattaya at the time. They come, they give us a mouthful and then they go. The guys on this forum know the thai game very well, probably much better than the people who actually run the game. Personally I think I've done more for Thai football than most Thai's would ever do. The only thing your lacking Mackem, is that blog behind your fave team!! 2011 would be a good season to start - so get behind a team no ones discovered yet!! Fair points. Maybe, I'll have to start up a blog on the Jatujak Jaguars or the Ratchayothin Rebels in the distant future when they become teams. At present my local team would either be the Army, which I am afraid to say don't have much appeal or Kasetsart University! While I applaud those who follow the smallest of teams, I do appreciate watching a pretty decent standard of football and outside the Thai Premier League there is precious little of that. The banter on here is appreciated and without it I am sure we would all share less information and therefore learn less by the same token. Unable to make the Bkk Glass game at Sisaket this weekend, but looking forward to the weekend when BKK73 and I will be aiming to watch a double header of MTU vs. The Donut Boys, followed by Klong Toey vs. Newin's Blue Army on Saturday. Should be some entertainment in there somewhere, whether it's people walking off the pitch, kicking tables, thumping refs or goals galore. Cheers. Mackem, I agree with all Drury said on this one. By the way D1 does actually have some very good football at times. Watch Rajpracha and you might be surprised. Fair enough ... I'll try and make time to watch Rajpracha before the end of the season and give some feedback later. |
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« Reply #175 on: September 07, 2010, 05:00:31 PM » |
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Fair enough ... I'll try and make time to watch Rajpracha before the end of the season and give some feedback later.
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Their passing is a real pleasure to watch most of the time and because they are basically a youth side, they have that enthusiasm for the game. |
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wolfman
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« Reply #176 on: September 07, 2010, 08:55:25 PM » |
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Results from the 7th:
Roi Et 1-0 Thai Port (2nd leg 17th)
Chantaburi 1-2 TOT CAT FC (2nd Leg 14th)
Air Force Utd 2-0 Muang Thong Utd (??)
NOTE: At present, the League Cup website has Chantaburi as 2-1 winners, and Thai League Online has TOT as winners. However, the match report on both websites has TOT winning the match.
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« Reply #177 on: September 07, 2010, 11:33:04 PM » |
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Results from the 7th:
Roi Et 1-0 Thai Port (2nd leg 17th)
Chantaburi 1-2 TOT CAT FC (2nd Leg 14th)
Air Force Utd 2-0 Muang Thong Utd (??)
NOTE: At present, the League Cup website has Chantaburi as 2-1 winners, and Thai League Online has TOT as winners. However, the match report on both websites has TOT winning the match.
Nice to see a couple of wins for Roi Et and Air Force Utd. over TPL opposition. Both Muangthong and Thai Port have the squads to seal victory in the second legs, but will they go all out or play an understrength side in the second legs with the league and other cup competitions to distract them? Should make both of these fixtures of interest in the second leg with everything to play for. Will Thai Port really play the second leg sandwiched in between their AFC cup matches? I can understand them switching their Saturday game to Friday 17th as they have to travel to Kuwait for the second leg the following Tuesday. However, surely sticking to the TPL program and playing their game against Pijit on Friday instead of Saturday would have worked better and then schedule the Roi Et game for another time. There's every chance that the Toyota Cup will still be being played in December as they probably won't make the draw for subsequent rounds until the current round is over which could be the middle of October for some teams. If it continues, it would be sensible for next season's Toyota League Cup to start pre-season. Many fans don't care that much about the competition in the early stages, so that's perfect for the pre-season calendar when a little bit of competitive edge will set teams up nicely for the league season. |
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« Reply #178 on: September 08, 2010, 12:20:34 AM » |
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The though schedule for some of the bigger clubs, may could be an advantage for the smaller ones in the TLC.
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« Reply #179 on: September 08, 2010, 03:21:32 AM » |
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Not sure, but looks like there was one foreigner too much on the pitch for MTU.
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« Reply #180 on: September 08, 2010, 08:11:32 AM » |
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Nice to see a couple of wins for Roi Et and Air Force Utd. over TPL opposition. Both Muangthong and Thai Port have the squads to seal victory in the second legs, but will they go all out or play an understrength side in the second legs with the league and other cup competitions to distract them?
Should make both of these fixtures of interest in the second leg with everything to play for.
Will Thai Port really play the second leg sandwiched in between their AFC cup matches? I can understand them switching their Saturday game to Friday 17th as they have to travel to Kuwait for the second leg the following Tuesday. However, surely sticking to the TPL program and playing their game against Pijit on Friday instead of Saturday would have worked better and then schedule the Roi Et game for another time.
As per my earlier post:
Some basic planning skills, ... and an ability to look at the League and FA Cup fixture lists before these scheduling announcements.
Saves all that confusing re-scheduling and constant updating.
Expect re-scheduling in the next week or so. There's every chance that the Toyota Cup will still be being played in December as they probably won't make the draw for subsequent rounds until the current round is over which could be the middle of October for some teams.
If it continues, it would be sensible for next season's Toyota League Cup to start pre-season. Many fans don't care that much about the competition in the early stages, so that's perfect for the pre-season calendar when a little bit of competitive edge will set teams up nicely for the league season.
With all the re-scheduling, and two legs in most rounds, I expect this League Cup to still be going during the pre-season |
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« Reply #181 on: September 08, 2010, 08:43:09 AM » |
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It's now been confirmed we violated the foreign quota for our match. No punishment announced yet. I'd imagine it will be a fine rather than disqualification.
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« Reply #182 on: September 08, 2010, 10:22:14 AM » |
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It's now been confirmed we violated the foreign quota for our match. No punishment announced yet. I'd imagine it will be a fine rather than disqualification.
How did it happen? And who was responsible? Surely someone should get the mother of all rollickings for this? |
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« Reply #183 on: September 08, 2010, 01:49:59 PM » |
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It's now been confirmed we violated the foreign quota for our match. No punishment announced yet. I'd imagine it will be a fine rather than disqualification.
How did it happen? And who was responsible? Surely someone should get the mother of all rollickings for this? Might as well take a disqualification. No point paying out fines for a competition that appears to be the bottom of MTU's priorities. By naming a 2nd string XI in the Samut Prakarn game, Rene showed us that he wasn't taking much interest in this competition. He couldn't even be bothered to stand at the touchline and yell at people during that game. I'm sure he'd far rather win the league and AFC cup. |
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« Reply #184 on: September 08, 2010, 02:07:01 PM » |
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It's now been confirmed we violated the foreign quota for our match. No punishment announced yet. I'd imagine it will be a fine rather than disqualification.
How did it happen? And who was responsible? Surely someone should get the mother of all rollickings for this? Might as well take a disqualification. No point paying out fines for a competition that appears to be the bottom of MTU's priorities. By naming a 2nd string XI in the Samut Prakarn game, Rene showed us that he wasn't taking much interest in this competition. He couldn't even be bothered to stand at the touchline and yell at people during that game. I'm sure he'd far rather win the league and AFC cup. Wherever this competition comes in their list of priorities, I think this is incredibly slack for a club which is seemingly so professional in every other aspect. And if the mistake was Rene's, it may make him think twice before being so quick to criticise anyone and everyone in the future. |
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« Reply #185 on: September 08, 2010, 02:15:07 PM » |
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I don't think you can be too harsh about MTU using a second string side. We've already played more games than any other team and we have a strong reserve side so why not give them a chance to prove themselves in a competition that no club has at the top of their priority list?
As for the rule violation, we'll have to wait and see what further details emerge but look on the bright side, it gives all the usual bashers something to talk about. It would be far less fun if, say, Nakhom Pathom did it.
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« Reply #186 on: September 08, 2010, 02:29:02 PM » |
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I don't think you can be too harsh about MTU using a second string side. We've already played more games than any other team and we have a strong reserve side so why not give them a chance to prove themselves in a competition that no club has at the top of their priority list?
As for the rule violation, we'll have to wait and see what further details emerge but look on the bright side, it gives all the usual bashers something to talk about. It would be far less fun if, say, Nakhom Pathom did it.
I actually think that you've got off quite lightly. Considering your "strong reserve side" have just lost to a team from the second tier and your coaches have dropped a massive bollock. |
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« Reply #187 on: September 08, 2010, 02:46:52 PM » |
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I don't think you can be too harsh about MTU using a second string side. We've already played more games than any other team and we have a strong reserve side so why not give them a chance to prove themselves in a competition that no club has at the top of their priority list?
As for the rule violation, we'll have to wait and see what further details emerge but look on the bright side, it gives all the usual bashers something to talk about. It would be far less fun if, say, Nakhom Pathom did it.
One thing I don't get with any reserve side is that these players seem to be happy labelled as 'reserve'. Only used in point less matchups. I know MTU have had a hell of a fixture list this season, but wouldn't it be better for your reserves to be mixed in with the first team? 3 or 4 lads put in with 7 or 8 first teamers to try and mould a futue squad? MTU have had a problem at RB recently, surely it would have made more sense at least to play a regular back 3 and a reserve RB to gel together? It's not a dig at MTU Greg, before you see it as this. But more a dig at Thai football in general for rushing everything through all at once so we can't nuture future players through. TLC could have been a good little comp if it was brought in earlier, probably played midweek, rather than nearly everyday! It seems to have taken over my life! Whatever happened to the TPL??? |
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« Reply #188 on: September 08, 2010, 04:02:24 PM » |
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To be fair Drury this is what they do. Every league cup game has had some regular players plus reserves - who I don't think are happy to be called that. Yesterday they had Abdoul, Kone and Christian in the side who are all first team. Don't forget Jet, Kawin et al. are in India.
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« Reply #189 on: September 08, 2010, 06:15:01 PM » |
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To be fair Drury this is what they do. Every league cup game has had some regular players plus reserves - who I don't think are happy to be called that. Yesterday they had Abdoul, Kone and Christian in the side who are all first team. Don't forget Jet, Kawin et al. are in India.
Credit to the management for doing this. It does seem that they do have a vision for the club. |
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« Reply #190 on: September 08, 2010, 08:09:43 PM » |
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It's now been confirmed we violated the foreign quota for our match. No punishment announced yet. I'd imagine it will be a fine rather than disqualification.
Not that it helped MTU much, but fines seem to be the way to go. The rules should be quite clear to coaches and as many of us know teams have been disqualified in the past for fielding inilegible players in club competitions in Europe. However, I don't know what the rules are here and based on previous punishments for crowd violence, walk-offs and on-field brawls, we shouldn't expect the punishment to be very severe. |
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« Reply #191 on: September 08, 2010, 09:48:26 PM » |
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Someone told me today that the deficit will be doubled to 0-4 as punishment. This is not confirmed though.
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« Reply #192 on: September 08, 2010, 10:02:27 PM » |
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Someone told me today that the deficit will be doubled to 0-4 as punishment. This is not confirmed though.
I heard that the punishment for fielding an ineligible player is a 2-0 forfeit. Therefore, the result will stand and MTUFC will also be fined. |
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« Reply #193 on: September 08, 2010, 10:22:56 PM » |
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Someone told me today that the deficit will be doubled to 0-4 as punishment. This is not confirmed though.
I heard that the punishment for fielding an ineligible player is a 2-0 forfeit. Therefore, the result will stand and MTUFC will also be fined. Surely the forfeit should increase the loss. For example, what would happen if MTU lost 0-3 anyway? Would that be reduced to 0-2? Perhaps the two goals will be lumped on top of the 0-2 result? |
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« Reply #194 on: September 08, 2010, 10:27:03 PM » |
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Someone told me today that the deficit will be doubled to 0-4 as punishment. This is not confirmed though.
I heard that the punishment for fielding an ineligible player is a 2-0 forfeit. Therefore, the result will stand and MTUFC will also be fined. Surely the forfeit should increase the loss. For example, what would happen if MTU lost 0-3 anyway? Would that be reduced to 0-2? Perhaps the two goals will be lumped on top of the 0-2 result? That thought also occured to me. But I'm guessing if the losing margin was greater than 2-0, then that result would stand. |
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« Reply #195 on: September 08, 2010, 10:52:32 PM » |
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SriRacha 0-0 BEC Tero. Not the greatest match I've ever seen but there was enough happening to hold my attention. If SriRacha can beat Khon Kaen on Sunday, they'll surely return to the top flight as Division One champions. And the stadium will look very impressive, once it's finished. |
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« Reply #196 on: September 09, 2010, 02:46:39 PM » |
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These fixtures confuse the hell out of me - they are all over the place and don't get me started on kick off times - they seem to change every other day at Pattaya. Have we agreed on what the prize is for winning this thing? Unless it's a fantastic prize you can understand why MTU fielded a reserve side - why bother? They have bigger fish to fry. Pride alone will make Msr. Rene put a better side out in the home leg - though if the deficit does increase to 4-0 after the penalty- then it's game over. Don't think many MTU fans will be shedding any tears though.
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« Reply #197 on: September 09, 2010, 04:23:43 PM » |
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These fixtures confuse the hell out of me - they are all over the place and don't get me started on kick off times - they seem to change every other day at Pattaya. Have we agreed on what the prize is for winning this thing? Unless it's a fantastic prize you can understand why MTU fielded a reserve side - why bother? They have bigger fish to fry. Pride alone will make Msr. Rene put a better side out in the home leg - though if the deficit does increase to 4-0 after the penalty- then it's game over. Don't think many MTU fans will be shedding any tears though.
We did beat them 4-0 in the FA Cup though. A 0-4 deficit would make for a hell of a return game. |
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« Reply #198 on: September 09, 2010, 04:26:08 PM » |
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These fixtures confuse the hell out of me - they are all over the place and don't get me started on kick off times - they seem to change every other day at Pattaya. Have we agreed on what the prize is for winning this thing? Unless it's a fantastic prize you can understand why MTU fielded a reserve side - why bother? They have bigger fish to fry. Pride alone will make Msr. Rene put a better side out in the home leg - though if the deficit does increase to 4-0 after the penalty- then it's game over. Don't think many MTU fans will be shedding any tears though.
We did beat them 4-0 in the FA Cup though. A 0-4 deficit would make for a hell of a return game. Hmmm. And I bet it might attract a reasonable crowd. I'm sure that sponsors are aware of that also. Not that I'm suggesting anything underhand might be afoot. |
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« Reply #199 on: September 09, 2010, 05:43:05 PM » |
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OK. Here's a question. When will Chonburi play BKK Glass in the second leg of our league cup tie?
12/9 BKK Utd (A)
15/9 Bang Phra - FA Cup (A)
19/9 Bkk Glass (A)
22/9 Bkk Glass - League Cup 1st leg (A)
25/9 Navy Rayong (H)
29/9 Thai Port (A)
3/10 Police Utd (H)
9/10 TOT (H)
13/10 Thailand v Argentina
17/10 PEA (H)
24/10 Osotspa (A)
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