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« Reply #100 on: August 23, 2009, 06:51:25 PM » |
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Another Quote from Stoke City manager Tony Pulis. "Peter is a typical Scouser - a very bubbly bloke who I have known for a long time. We need characters around the place with his experience.
"There is a minor issue about securing his release from his job with the Thailand FA but we don't believe that will present a problem for us.".Link: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11701_5508090,00.htmlI personally would be very dissapointed with Reid if he takes this job with Stoke. If it was the managers job, then maybe you could understand it, but to leave a National team job, to become 'yes man' to Tony Pulis is hardly a step up. After he was sacked by Leeds and Coventry, Premier League & Championship clubs wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. His ideas and methods were seen as outdated (He talks about doing well with City and Sunderland, but that was a long time ago). The Thai FA gave him a chance and I believe he should show some loyalty (if that word exists in football).
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« Reply #101 on: August 24, 2009, 06:10:05 AM » |
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Totally agree with you. I had the same thoughts over these days. Espacially that point: His ideas and methods were seen as outdated ... and they still, beside the fact that he is doing a great job in Thailand.
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« Reply #102 on: August 24, 2009, 11:13:41 AM » |
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He's as good as gone according to Sunday's press in England.
I agree with Marco. I wouldn't begrudge him taking a manager's job, but assistant manager at a club who probably don't have a long term future in the Premiership is not the type of post I would have expected him to leave for.
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« Reply #103 on: August 24, 2009, 02:02:09 PM » |
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« Reply #104 on: August 24, 2009, 03:28:40 PM » |
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"Class, who can tell me where these books came from?" All indication pointing towards those old text books.  Wouldn't be Steve Darby by any chance would it?  . That seamlessly links me to this: No deal yet for Peter Reid's move to StokeThailand assistant manager Steve Darby insists a deal for national team coach Peter Reid to become Tony Pulis' number two at Stoke has yet to be reached. Former Sunderland and Manchester City manager Reid was in the directors' box at St Andrews on Saturday to watch Stoke share a goalless draw with Birmingham City and Pulis confirmed he was hopeful a deal could be reached this week to bring the former England international to the Britannia Stadium. But Pulis did confirm "there is a minor issue about securing his release from his job with the Thailand," and Football Association of Thailand president Worawi Makudi remained tight-lipped over any potential deal. "I am in daily contact with Peter, and at this moment nothing is concrete yet, but he regularly gets offered jobs as he was so successful over a long period with Sunderland," Darby told PA Sport. "Nothing official has come to the Thai FA as yet, so at the moment it's an ongoing story. When the FA receives anything formally Dato Worawi plans a press conference. "I'd be disappointed if he goes as I really enjoy working with him, but is football ever simple and logical?" Pulis' current number two David Kemp is set to move to South America as part of the club's scouting network. Reid was named as Thailand coach in July 2008, but has continually been linked with a number of roles and has openly admitted he would return to England if the offer was right. "I do not have any information, nothing has been passed to me at this time," said FIFA Executive Committee Member Worawi. "There may be some developments today or tomorrow." Reid's Thailand, who drew with Liverpool in a friendly in Bangkok last month, are currently preparing for November's Asian Cup qualifiers against Singapore and December's South East Asian (SEA) Games title defence. "On a personal level, I'm just continuing with the monitoring of national team players and trying to conclude the squad for the SEA games in December," added former Home United and Perak coach Darby. "Plus I'll be working with our successful under-19s at some stage soon. We are trying to develop an integrated national team programme so the elite players can develop smoothly. We've already had two of the under-19s train with the national team; there is so much talent here. "The Thai Premier League is booming with sell out crowds every week so the players are getting a high level of competition before the Asian Cup in November." Link: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-23735910-details/article.do?ito=newsnow&
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« Reply #105 on: August 24, 2009, 05:48:54 PM » |
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Would the FAT offer the Job to Darby in case Reid would really move away?
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« Reply #106 on: August 24, 2009, 05:56:17 PM » |
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Would the FAT offer the Job to Darby in case Reid would really move away?
He would have a strong case. He knows Asian football, he obviously has ideas about developing the structure of Thai Football. If he was not made manager, then he should certainly be given a technical development role.
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« Reply #107 on: August 24, 2009, 06:14:02 PM » |
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your both right give the job to darby if reidy goes he been in asia a long time he will understand asian football better than peter . Stoke or thailand ? 
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« Reply #108 on: August 24, 2009, 06:45:22 PM » |
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Steve Darby would be my choice. If only to stop FAT getting their hands on Zico 
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« Reply #109 on: August 24, 2009, 09:51:40 PM » |
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Let's hope FAt isn't watching this thread...otherwise they could get some ideas....But I am pretty much sure that Zico might become the national coach sooner or later. I even remember that he was saying a few years ago, that he is ready for the job and only waiting for a call from the FAT. And that he really likes to become the national coach.
...or maybe Steve becomes the new coach of CFC, while Zico move on .....anyway, it simply would be logic to take Steve. As he knows the players already, and he knows the football in Asia.
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« Reply #110 on: August 24, 2009, 10:10:57 PM » |
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SORENSEN BACKS REID FOR POTTERS JOBSTOKE goalkeeper Thomas Sorensen says his former manager Peter Reid is the perfect assistant for Tony Pulis. City are set to appoint Reid as Pulis’s new number two this week, once they have secured his release from his job as head coach of the Thailand national side. Reid, aged 53, was at St Andrew’s on Saturday to see his former Sunderland keeper Sorensen help Stoke draw 0-0 with Birmingham. Reid brought the then 22-year old Sorensen to English football 11 years ago when he signed him from Odense for £500,000. The keeper won promotion with Reid’s side in his first season, and was a regular as Reid guided the Black Cats to successive seventh-placed finishes in the Premier League. Sorensen said: “He has always been a great manager and a great motivator, a bit like Tony Pulis. I think they will work well together. “The gaffer (Pulis) is getting an experienced man who has been there both as a player and a manager. He’s the man who brought me to England, so I owe him a lot.I was surprised to see him on Friday because I haven’t seen him for six years, but he’s come in and had an input straight away. “The respect for him is certainly there and that is very important. He is a hard worker and also a great person, who is very good at getting the best out of the players and making sure things are done right.” Sorensen said Pulis won’t feel threatened by bringing in a high-profile manager as his assistant. He said: “Tony Pulis is the boss and everyone knows that. I’m sure Peter’s not afraid of coming up with ideas and letting them be known. Then it is up for the manager to decide what happens. “I am sure he has a lot of respect for Peter Reid and we will see his ideas in training and in games. He will bring things to the table both tactically and mentally.” Meanwhile, Pulis said he would be delighted to recruit the experienced Reid, who has also managed in the top flight with Manchester City and Leeds United. Pulis added: “He has been in the game a long time and has tremendous experience which I hope he will bring to us. He is a proper football man and is a typical Scouser and a bubbly character. We hope matters will be resolved during the week.” Link: http://www.whydelilah.co.uk/news/24_Aug_2009/Sorensen+backs+Reid+for+Potters+job+.html
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« Reply #111 on: August 24, 2009, 11:02:27 PM » |
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Steve Darby would be my choice. If only to stop FAT getting their hands on Zico  From a long term football development perspective, I will take Darby over Reid any day. As for Reid, enough is enough, he has been looking out the window like an urban child stuck in a barn filled with unpleasant odors. So, he should leave now!
From the Thai footballers in an army's perspective, Their General has been looking for ways out what kind of moral do they have knowing even their leader don't believe in them.As for the new Thailand's head coach, if they really need one, they should stop thinking along the line of young coach who have just start to learnging the trade themselves such as Zico or Tawan. FAT must realize it is not about "who's best coach in TPL contest". Thailand's coach should be the person who can match up against coaches in the photos below. 
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« Reply #112 on: August 25, 2009, 12:43:30 AM » |
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There would be a few, but they are not available, so what do you propose to do? And their salary might no less than what Peter Reid is earning now. Ans what do you are looking for? Success in the long run or only the short run? My personal oppinion is that you need to have a National coach in charge for a few years in a row. And that the success might not come in one or two years. A great example for me is Bertie Vogts. He might not be one of the best coches. But he is able to develope a countries national sides down to the youth squads. He had been in charge of Scotland, and what he did for developing the youth there was great. His successor had earned the price, not he. And he is doing now the same in Aserbaidschan, but he says that he need a few years, to bring the structure forward.
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« Reply #113 on: August 25, 2009, 01:12:23 AM » |
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Peter Reid is expected to become assistant manager to Tony Pulis at Stoke next week. The former Manchester City and Sunderland boss is coach of Thailand but was in the directors' box to watch Stoke's 0-0 draw with Birmingham. Pulis' current number two David Kemp is to move to South America as part of the club's scouting network. "We are hoping to do a deal in the coming week to bring him in as my number two," said the Potters boss. "He wants to come back to England. "Peter is a typical Scouser - a very bubbly bloke who I have known for a long time. We need characters around the place with his experience. "There is a minor issue about securing his release from his job with the Thailand FA but we don't believe that will present a problem." http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/8216401.stm
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« Reply #114 on: August 25, 2009, 02:08:35 AM » |
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Ok, so it seem's he's going.
A shame since he always said he wanted to be around until 2014, but i guess that always was a long time. Could he possibly do a dual role? Would it be fair if he did?
I don't blame Peter for wanting to be in the EPL, after all even scouser Carragher recently said it's a shame to seem him out in the South East Asia.
Tawan Sripan and Zico - of course FAT will want these guys on a cheap budget, but really they should stay in club management for the time being.
So a couple of names i would throw at them, apart from the obvious Steve Darby:
Alfred Riedl - Laos coach, former Vietnam coach, he knows the region and has experience, but maybe getting on a bit.
Scott O'Donnell, ambitous Australian, been in charge of Cambodia, again knows the region well, but comes across to myself as having that passion, but is let down by amatuer nations in our region. He would thrieve in the Thailand position, but he would honour his contract with Cambodia until after the SEA Games, so what about the Singapore double headers??
Bora Mulitinovic - why not, he's managed everyone else!! Has a knack for managing teams who have already qualified for a world cup, could he manage us and lead us to a world cup?
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« Reply #115 on: August 25, 2009, 04:32:12 AM » |
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Dru, please no Riedl and no Mulitinovic. I want to have a coach who is able to work in long terms there, and thinking in long therms. Who is able to develope things over the years with his own concept and vision. Anything else wont bring thailand forward. Cause "we" had this already over the last years and centuries.
If I would be able to have a wish, or I am able to dream, than my choice would be Bertie Vogts, Ottmar Hitzfeld, Guus Hiddink, or even Matthias Sammer. Of course Sammer and Vogts, might not be the right persons for coaching, but as sports director, in favour of working on concepts and bring them through, they are just great.
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Btw, I just would love to see Rainer Calmund as an advisor for the TPL. He loves Thailand, and is spending his holidays in Thailand every year. Mostly in Pattaya and Phuket. He is having a great knowledge of football and has been a real good manager at Bayer Lverkusen side in Germany.
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« Reply #116 on: August 25, 2009, 06:19:41 AM » |
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« Reply #117 on: August 25, 2009, 08:49:22 AM » |
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if spending time in thailand is a pre requisite for the job then steve coppell...he s also a scouser
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« Reply #118 on: August 25, 2009, 10:16:32 AM » |
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Who was the German who was in the running for the job last year; before Reid got it? Darby must still be involved in the set-up, either as head coach or in youth development.
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« Reply #119 on: August 25, 2009, 01:46:51 PM » |
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Who was the German who was in the running for the job last year; before Reid got it? Darby must still be involved in the set-up, either as head coach or in youth development.
I must admid I am being biased on Darby's case. Mainly becasue I would like to see systematical football development in the Kingdom. I believe he's the experience and the know how. Even if their are obstacles, he could probable get considerably amount of things done as compare to what we have had upto now.
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« Reply #120 on: August 25, 2009, 02:44:54 PM » |
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Who was the German who was in the running for the job last year; before Reid got it? Darby must still be involved in the set-up, either as head coach or in youth development.
I think it was Holger Oseick. No idea what he's doing now. Loko?
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« Reply #121 on: August 25, 2009, 03:01:53 PM » |
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Loko - your correct, maybe we shouldn't be looking for old codgers, but we also can't dream too much.
Sammer, Matthus, possible i guess, but Lother Matthus spends most his time getting a job and then whinning about it.
As for guys who only go there on holiday? What do they really know about the Thai scene? Ok, Reid knew nothing, but the football scene before was nothing. It has vastly improved in the last year.
Berti Vogts, can't really see him in the job. Don't forget, we already have acamdamies in place, so it's not like starting right from scratch. What we would need, is just an old head, familiar with the region to get Thailand to the Asian Cup. But an old head familiar in this region, unfortunatly won't be from this region.
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« Reply #122 on: August 25, 2009, 03:19:37 PM » |
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Who was the German who was in the running for the job last year; before Reid got it? Darby must still be involved in the set-up, either as head coach or in youth development.
I think it was Holger Oseick. No idea what he's doing now. Loko? Yes it was Holger Osieck. He should be without any Job at the moment.
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« Reply #123 on: August 25, 2009, 03:22:43 PM » |
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Loko - your correct, maybe we shouldn't be looking for old codgers, but we also can't dream too much.
Sammer, Matthus, possible i guess, but Lother Matthus spends most his time getting a job and then whinning about it.
As for guys who only go there on holiday? What do they really know about the Thai scene? Ok, Reid knew nothing, but the football scene before was nothing. It has vastly improved in the last year.
Berti Vogts, can't really see him in the job. Don't forget, we already have acamdamies in place, so it's not like starting right from scratch. What we would need, is just an old head, familiar with the region to get Thailand to the Asian Cup. But an old head familiar in this region, unfortunatly won't be from this region.
Dru, I never talked about Matthaeus. And the reason is that I can't see him doing a job in thailand, because of his personality and caracter. He wouldn't fit to Thailand.
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« Reply #124 on: August 25, 2009, 05:38:57 PM » |
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So, after putting Thai fans and his players on an uncertainty for several hours Peter Reid has decided that he will stay on as Thailand National coach.
I can't possibly say that I have a mixed emotion about what had transpired in the past several hours. My feeling is clear. I perceive his conduct as unprofession, especially, when everything was still up in the air. Sure, the clause in his contract may allow him to negotiate with any clubs that interested in his service as he had mentioned a while back, but allowing the news to spread out through media was of a poor judgement. While I will always support the team as I have always had, I can't help but having a reservation when it comes to respect toward the coach.
I, truely, appreciate every members on this board for positive attitudes I have come acrossed. You all are a great bunch of football fans. But, this is me saying it the way I see it.
Worawi: Reid will stay (UKPA) – 1 hour ago
Football Association of Thailand (FAT) president Worawi Makudi is confident Peter Reid will remain as coach.
Stoke manager Tony Pulis is keen for Reid to become his right-hand man as David Kemp is taking a scouting role. Reid was in the directors' box at Birmingham on Saturday to see Pulis' side draw 0-0, and his move to the Britannia Stadium appeared imminent.
But Worawi told the Bangkok Post: "He (Reid) said it was just a rumour. We have seen this type of news many times. I don't think he will leave us. He will continue his work here. He told me that he will not let our players down and promised that he will guide the Thai national team to success."
Reid signed a four-year contract with the FAT last September and Thailand's next assignment is two Asian Cup qualifying matches against Singapore in September.
Worawi added: "I would like Thai fans to feel relaxed about Reid staying with us."
The Press Association. All rights reserved.
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I can't possibly say that I have a mixed emotion about what had transpired in the past several hours. My feeling is clear. I perceive his conduct as unprofession, especially, when everything was still up in the air. Sure, the clause in his contract may allow him to negotiate with any clubs that interested in his service as he had mentioned a while back, but allowing the news to spread out through media was of a poor judgement. To be fair to Reid, the news spread through the media because of comments made by Tony Pulis (Stoke Manager). Maybe he should have shown more respect to the Thai FA and Peter Reid, by keeping quiet, which would have avoided all the speculation.
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« Reply #127 on: August 26, 2009, 11:32:46 AM » |
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Another twist in the Peter Reid saga with the man himself telling the Stoke Sentinel that he can't wait to start work at City. As most of the posters here know very well, things are rarely as they seem when it comes to Thai football. If indeed Reid is on US$1 million a year as reported at the time of his appointment, no way the FAT can afford that without a benefactor. So what if the daily star of the video link or someone else has reneged on their promises? Reid might be doing this to put the pressure on the FAT to honour the deal or simply sees Stoke as an escape route. There again, maybe he is just sick of Som Tam and Singha. --- From the Stoke Sentinel. PETER Reid insists he will be happy to play second fiddle to Tony Pulis when he officially takes up his role as Stoke City’s new assistant manager.
Reid has spent the best part of two decades in the managerial frontline, but is now ready to take a back seat as number two.
The 53-year-old former Manchester City and Sunderland manager, whose family home is in Lancashire, hopes to be unveiled shortly as talks continue to amicably end his 11-month stint as Thailand’s national coach.
“The weather is a bit colder back home,” he admitted, “but it will be great to be back in English football and at the top level.
“I can’t wait to work with a true football man like Tony. We haven’t worked together before, but we have spoken plenty of times over the years about players and what have you.
“His record here is fantastic and I just hope I can play a small part in helping him continue the work done during an absolutely brilliant two years for Stoke City.
“I have worked as a number two under Howard Kendall at Everton and Howard Wilkinson with the England under-21s, so the role isn’t foreign to me.”
Reid, who also had managerial spells at Leeds and Coventry, intends spending plenty of time working with the players on the training pitch and joining in sessions.
“I will help Tony wherever he wants,” he continued. “But the best thing about being a number two is that you have the time and opportunity to get out there on the training pitch.
“Unfortunately for the manager, he spends too much time having to sign players, or dealing with agents and all that kind of thing.”
The popular Scouser, whose playing career is best remembered at Everton, Manchester City and for England at the 1986 World Cup, also believes he will fit in perfectly in the Potteries.
“I know what the fans are like here from the past,” he said, “and I’d like to think I am from a similar working-class background.
“I played at the old Victoria Ground and managed at the Britannia Stadium, so I know they’re fanatical and love their football club.
“I just hope I can help them and Tony to carry on improving the stature of this club.”
The president of the Thai FA, Worawi Makudi, appears to believe Reid is staying in Thailand, however, after being quoted as saying: “We have seen this type of news many times. I don’t think he will leave us. He will continue his work here.”
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« Reply #130 on: August 26, 2009, 03:27:18 PM » |
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Nevertheless, looks like an endless saga with and we do have two different statements.
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« Reply #131 on: August 26, 2009, 07:32:56 PM » |
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As many of us had speculated, Peter Reid has left the building!
Here is what BBC have posted on their website.
Reid content with assistant role Reid last worked in English football in 2005 as manager of Coventry City Ex-Thailand boss Peter Reid believes he can adapt to life as an assistant manager as he prepares to become number two to Tony Pulis at Stoke City.
Reid, 53, will be in the dugout for the first time on Wednesday when Stoke take on Leyton Orient in the Carling Cup.
"I did the same thing at Manchester City and England Under-21s, so it's not a problem," Reid told BBC Radio Stoke.
"The role is fine, it will do for me as long as I can have an impact here and help this club grow stronger."
The former Sunderland and Leeds boss added: "The club has done fantastic to get to the Premier League and my job is to help the players and Tony to improve."
Reid had been coach of the Thailand national team since September, and has negotiated the release of his contract in order to take on the position at the Britannia Stadium.
"I enjoyed it there. The players are technically good and it's a great place to live," said Reid.
"But the Premier League is the greatest league in the world, and although it was very difficult to leave, it was always my ambition to come back here and work."
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« Reply #132 on: August 26, 2009, 08:11:42 PM » |
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As many of us had speculated, Peter Reid has left the building!
Here is what BBC have posted on their website.
Reid content with assistant role Reid last worked in English football in 2005 as manager of Coventry City Ex-Thailand boss Peter Reid believes he can adapt to life as an assistant manager as he prepares to become number two to Tony Pulis at Stoke City.
Reid, 53, will be in the dugout for the first time on Wednesday when Stoke take on Leyton Orient in the Carling Cup.
"I did the same thing at Manchester City and England Under-21s, so it's not a problem," Reid told BBC Radio Stoke.
"The role is fine, it will do for me as long as I can have an impact here and help this club grow stronger."
The former Sunderland and Leeds boss added: "The club has done fantastic to get to the Premier League and my job is to help the players and Tony to improve."
Reid had been coach of the Thailand national team since September, and has negotiated the release of his contract in order to take on the position at the Britannia Stadium.
"I enjoyed it there. The players are technically good and it's a great place to live," said Reid.
"But the Premier League is the greatest league in the world, and although it was very difficult to leave, it was always my ambition to come back here and work." Here is a link to the above story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/8221420.stmIt's got an audio interview with Reid, so it seems as though it's official! I wonder when the Thai FA will make any comment?
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« Reply #133 on: August 26, 2009, 08:33:46 PM » |
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The below commentary is from ESPN-Star Sports website. It was written by Jesse Fink who is reputedly "one of Australia’s leading sportswriters and columnists." Wonder what posters with more experience of Thai football make of his comments, perceptions? To me, he is wide of the mark on many points. ====
Will he stay or will he go? Worawi Makudi, the president of the Thai FA, insists Peter Reid is not about to quit as coach of Thailand to take up the assistant role at Stoke City in the Premiership. Reports emanating from London suggest otherwise. Whatever transpires, the news of the past 48 hours has been a blow for Asian football. Not so much because Reid can't be replaced - he can and will - but rather as it underlines the challenges football in this region faces in talent retention. For Asia to ever draw close to European standards in football it needs the best possible coaches working in this part of the world to make it happen and Reid, who may not have the urbane continental sangfroid of Arsene Wenger or Jose Mourinho, was still a cut above many of his Asian contemporaries. Since arriving in Bangkok in September last year, he'd given Thai football a profile internationally, contributed in no small part to the commercial appeal of the new Thai Premier League and led the men's national team to some success: winning the T&T Cup in Vietnam and finishing second at the AFF Suzuki Cup. The campaign for qualification for the 2011 Asian Cup had just begun and Reid's ultimate objective was to make history and qualify the Elephants for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil. It appears that is not going to happen, however, when the prospect of laying out the cones on the training paddock for Tony Pulis is regarded as a better job offer. This, unfortunately, is the tough reality of Asian football. The Potters might be a small-fry club but they are part of the biggest football competition in the world. A few poor results, a bit of pressure on Pulis, a kneejerk board and suddenly Reid could find himself back in charge of his fifth English club, his fourth in the Premiership. That is the big carrot and Thailand can't hope to keep him away from it, even with a four-year deal and all the other trappings of life in South-East Asia. So where to now for the Thai FA? Steve Darby, Reid's 2IC and erstwhile ESPN STAR Sports commentator, will likely stand in for however long is needed, and there are a couple of important games ahead, the home and away Asian Cup qualifiers against Singapore in November. But should it turn to Europe again for a permanent replacement? After all, Reid's predecessor, Charnwit Polcheewin, who coached Thailand for three years from 2005 to 2008, also had some success, winning the King's Cup two years in a row and, like Reid, taking home the T&T Cup. It's not like locals can't do the job. There is, however, a bigger picture. And that is opening up Thai football to European ideas, European techniques, European application - of making Thai players give 100 per cent every moment of every game. That has been the problem with Thai football in the past and it was something Reid and Darby were working to change. Whoever comes in, be it Darby himself, another foreigner or a Thai, the hard work needs to continue. And let's just hope he's in for the long haul.
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« Reply #134 on: August 26, 2009, 09:42:23 PM » |
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Wow, looks like SRS did an Interview with the new thai national coach.
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« Reply #136 on: August 27, 2009, 04:41:44 AM » |
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aehm SRS, you already famous in the thai football scene. And what you achieved over the years there is amazing. But if you really got the first IV with the new Thai Headcoach, you probably earn world fame.  And if you smart enough, and I know you are, than you can use synergie effects to build something big.... I need to stop my minds here...
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« Reply #137 on: August 27, 2009, 06:11:33 AM » |
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Nevertheless, looks like an endless saga with and we do have two different statements.
Yes. It's difficult to comment on the situation when we are hearing two completely different stories. Worawee was caught totally off guard on this one. It is understandable that he had taken action to calm Thai football fans. What else could a man in his situation do? This make it really interesting on how will he address the public as minimizing the damage is already out of the question.
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« Reply #138 on: August 27, 2009, 10:38:58 AM » |
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The below commentary is from ESPN-Star Sports website. It was written by Jesse Fink who is reputedly "one of Australia’s leading sportswriters and columnists." Wonder what posters with more experience of Thai football make of his comments, perceptions? To me, he is wide of the mark on many points. ====
Will he stay or will he go? Worawi Makudi, the president of the Thai FA, insists Peter Reid is not about to quit as coach of Thailand to take up the assistant role at Stoke City in the Premiership. Reports emanating from London suggest otherwise. Whatever transpires, the news of the past 48 hours has been a blow for Asian football. Not so much because Reid can't be replaced - he can and will - but rather as it underlines the challenges football in this region faces in talent retention. For Asia to ever draw close to European standards in football it needs the best possible coaches working in this part of the world to make it happen and Reid, who may not have the urbane continental sangfroid of Arsene Wenger or Jose Mourinho, was still a cut above many of his Asian contemporaries. Since arriving in Bangkok in September last year, he'd given Thai football a profile internationally, contributed in no small part to the commercial appeal of the new Thai Premier League and led the men's national team to some success: winning the T&T Cup in Vietnam and finishing second at the AFF Suzuki Cup. The campaign for qualification for the 2011 Asian Cup had just begun and Reid's ultimate objective was to make history and qualify the Elephants for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil. It appears that is not going to happen, however, when the prospect of laying out the cones on the training paddock for Tony Pulis is regarded as a better job offer. This, unfortunately, is the tough reality of Asian football. The Potters might be a small-fry club but they are part of the biggest football competition in the world. A few poor results, a bit of pressure on Pulis, a kneejerk board and suddenly Reid could find himself back in charge of his fifth English club, his fourth in the Premiership. That is the big carrot and Thailand can't hope to keep him away from it, even with a four-year deal and all the other trappings of life in South-East Asia. So where to now for the Thai FA? Steve Darby, Reid's 2IC and erstwhile ESPN STAR Sports commentator, will likely stand in for however long is needed, and there are a couple of important games ahead, the home and away Asian Cup qualifiers against Singapore in November. But should it turn to Europe again for a permanent replacement? After all, Reid's predecessor, Charnwit Polcheewin, who coached Thailand for three years from 2005 to 2008, also had some success, winning the King's Cup two years in a row and, like Reid, taking home the T&T Cup. It's not like locals can't do the job. There is, however, a bigger picture. And that is opening up Thai football to European ideas, European techniques, European application - of making Thai players give 100 per cent every moment of every game. That has been the problem with Thai football in the past and it was something Reid and Darby were working to change. Whoever comes in, be it Darby himself, another foreigner or a Thai, the hard work needs to continue. And let's just hope he's in for the long haul.
Yeah, not a great article, is it? No real, new insights. He seems to be one of these Western journalists that feels the need to compare Asian football with European football. He essentially says that Asian football is no good unless it aspires to be, and reaches the level of, European football: "...opening up Thai football to European ideas, European techniques, European application..."We all want Thai football to be the best it can but this borders on cultural imperialism.
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« Reply #139 on: August 27, 2009, 11:43:56 AM » |
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Several months ago, I read one of his articles related to Australian football in Asia. I thought presenting sports news in a fiction manner was the news appreciated by Australian sports fans. It is not? Oh, be darnnnn....
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« Reply #141 on: August 27, 2009, 05:48:45 PM » |
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Thank you so much but I don't know who interviewed Steve Darby ? 
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« Reply #142 on: August 27, 2009, 06:03:41 PM » |
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« Reply #143 on: August 27, 2009, 06:20:35 PM » |
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« Reply #144 on: August 27, 2009, 11:10:50 PM » |
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I like the way the questions were constructed. They were excellent!
Darby is quite a story teller, isn't he?
I like the guy but as Thailand Football Technical Director.
I woud hate to see him affected by NT performance and end up losing him.
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« Reply #145 on: August 27, 2009, 11:21:44 PM » |
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I like the way the questions were constructed. They were excellent!
Darby is quite a story teller, isn't he?
I like the guy but as Thailand Football Technical Director.
I woud hate to see him affected by NT performance and end up losing him.
Thank you. I also have to thank Vinnie, Marco and Lokomotive from this messageboard for their help and for submitting some of the questions. Steve is a great bloke and I really hope that he is kept on in some capacity with the Thailand national team. He knows a lot about Asian football and has a lot to offer.
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« Reply #146 on: August 28, 2009, 12:06:59 AM » |
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I still had not been able to find any official announcement that Peter isn't NT Headcoach anymore. Even not on the Stoke Website. But I already found a quote form today in the German KICKER. It is reagrding a move from Huth to Stoke. And Reid was quoted as Ass. Coach that Huth will bring a lot of EPL experiance. And he told that to the BBC Radio.
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« Reply #147 on: August 28, 2009, 12:44:57 AM » |
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I like the way the questions were constructed. They were excellent!
Darby is quite a story teller, isn't he?
I like the guy but as Thailand Football Technical Director.
I woud hate to see him affected by NT performance and end up losing him.
Thank you. I also have to thank Vinnie, Marco and Lokomotive from this messageboard for their help and for submitting some of the questions. Steve is a great bloke and I really hope that he is kept on in some capacity with the Thailand national team. He knows a lot about Asian football and has a lot to offer. SRS, would you mind if I translate the content of your interview with Darby and present it as a positives and infotmative for Thai Football Leage fans at Thailandsusu.com? I am a regular there. I will credit you in each of information I post, of course. Your decision will always be respected one way or other. Thanks
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« Reply #148 on: August 28, 2009, 07:09:58 AM » |
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I did  Thank you SRS , you are not a normal fan
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« Reply #149 on: August 28, 2009, 07:14:32 AM » |
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I hope this is a compliment Charade! 
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