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« on: July 30, 2009, 07:45:57 PM »

Is it just me, or do goals scored due to dreadful goalkeeping errors, seem to happen with alarming regularity in Thai football? It seems amazing that they are failing to deal with so many shots that should be a routine save for any keeper, at any level. It could be argued that pitches are a bit bobbly, and maybe the ball is wet, but they need to learn that if they can’t hold onto the ball, push it to safety.

Both Thai Port goals again Navy Rayong came from goalkeeping mistakes. The first one was a floated free kick from about 45 yards which he should have easily saved. The second goal was scored after the keeper played a terrible pass, which went straight to a Thai Port player who slotted the ball into the empty net. (This is the very same keeper, who was trying dribble past players in the match against TTM last Saturday, so I’ve got no sympathy for him.)

Osotspa vs PEA on Saturday, Kittisak Rawangpa was at fault for both P.E.A goals. They were both long range shots that went straight through him. Think back to Thai Port vs Chonburi in the final round of the first leg. Arthit’s very weak shot was somehow spilled by Pattarakorn and Kone followed up and scored. In the TTM vs Navy Rayong match I mentioned earlier, both goals came from shots spilled by the keeper. I've given 7 examples that have happened recently, and I'm sure there are more that I haven't seen.

I don’t want to be wholly negative, as I’ve seen some cracking saves by Thai keepers, which makes it even more infuriating when they let in soft goals.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2009, 01:59:17 AM »

I must admit that i've certainly had a quiet chuckle to myself on the odd occasion seeing how some goals go in throughout the Asian region really.

I think last year at the Merdeka Cup there was a few long range strikers, even 18 yard headers which you rarely see at the top level going in, making the strikers look good, but in reality the keepers were poor.

More than anything, it's probably down to compossure, we have stated before about the strikers lacking at times and having the ability to put the ball in the net, the same could be of the keepers.

I guess playing at this level, mistakes will be made, and it happens. Myself included, it's always easy to get annoyed and think you can do it better yourself (and probably can), but as always, nothings perfect.

Now just wait for that Thai football bloopers hitting the UK market just in time for christmas
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2009, 05:39:35 AM »

do you think match fixing is an issue in thailand?
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2009, 09:57:06 AM »

I think marco there are some good keeper here i think what they lack at the moment is reading the game most are young   they come for balls that defenders can deal with  .Iwas at pattaya siracha sunday there keeper came flyingout missed it twice its being on your toes even when the ball is in there half reading play but they will all get better look at david james i to am a keeper for my sins learn by mistakes as you get older you read the game better i watched chonburi bec tero at chonburi  and chon buri keeper got a back pass coud not pick up and tryed to go round attacker it should have been row x in stands  attacker stole ball put it straight in the back of the net. But my point is that keeper 2 years on is a lot better keeper now its a  tough place with no body behind you
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2009, 11:47:49 AM »

"i watched chonburi bec tero at chonburi  and chon buri keeper got a back pass coud not pick up and tryed to go round attacker it should have been row x in stands  attacker stole ball put it straight in the back of the net."

Kosin's mistake in this match possibly cost us the title last season. This was our only defeat and the incident happened in the last minute of the match. It certainly affected his confidence and he went through a pretty rough patch afterwards.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2009, 12:04:01 PM »

srirashark  it was bad and you should have taken 3 points but he looks better  and i bet he wont try that again had a good game against liverpool the pattaya keeper looks comfortable and a big lad number 18 not shore if he played for cokebangra? who have you seen who catches your eye  in the sticks.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2009, 12:54:13 PM »

Prasit was at Bang Phra last season.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2009, 01:51:10 PM »

i think it was last season i caught a game on tv it was in bangkock chonburi was playing and your reserve keeper played and he had astorming game one great save sorry cant name team maybe army
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2009, 03:52:19 PM »

I've always been impressed when I've seen Suchin play. It must be very frustrating for him being on the bench each week. However, on his day, Kosin is one of the best keepers around. It's good to see him playing with such confidence again.

Note to Mods. If you were to rename this thread "Kosin", we might be able to draw Maria out of her shell  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2009, 05:33:38 PM »

I agree with SRS about Kosin. I've seen him play 5 times this season, and have always been impressed. He seems to have good ability, bravery and a command of the penalty area. I saw Kawin play for MTU against Thai Port last week, and he also looked very good.

I'm not saying that the other Thai goalkeepers are bad, but there is a lot more to a keepers armoury then just shot stopping. Concentrating for 90 minutes is crucial, and maybe this is the crux of the problem.

Do any of the teams have specialist foreign goalkeeper coaches (I think Chonburi do?). I firmly believe this would be a great help to the younger keepers.
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2009, 05:36:24 PM »

Chonburi have the best in the business, Franz Schwarzwalder. He's a bit of an unsung hero at the club and has worked with Kosin, and Suchin, for a long time.
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2009, 05:40:42 PM »

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Chonburi have the best in the business, Franz Schwarzwalder. He's a bit of an unsung hero at the club and has worked with Kosin, and Suchin, for a long time.

So I presume that both keepers have improved with his coaching?
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2009, 05:44:51 PM »

Absolutely. He spends a lot of time with the two lads and commands a lot of respect.

He also works full time coaching Under 15s.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2009, 07:17:44 PM »

There is a keeper coach at pattaya he was at bangpra the shark will  no more than me i think he is african
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2009, 09:46:38 AM »

Classic error by TOT goalkeeper at the weekend for Samut Songkhram's goal.
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2009, 10:11:23 AM »

Your right there vinnie thats nasty Cry

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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2009, 10:28:54 AM »

And to counter. Two solid displays from Thailand's 1 & 2, Kosin and Kittisak, on Sunday. We have a Ray Clemence/Peter Shilton situation on our hands. : )
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2009, 11:13:51 AM »

muang thong first goal what was the keeper and defender doing ?
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2009, 08:50:48 PM »

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muang thong first goal what was the keeper and defender doing ?

You have to presume that neither of them shouted. Why the defender chose to head the ball in the direction of the goal is anyone's guess.

That own-goal (right on the stroke of half time) completely change the nature of the game, Muang Thong Utd weren't looking that cohesive, and Navy Rayong were looking very sharp. 5 mins after half time Muang Thong scored again, which demoralised the Navy team, and galvanised MTU.
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2009, 08:56:36 PM »

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And to counter. Two solid displays from Thailand's 1 & 2, Kosin and Kittisak, on Sunday. We have a Ray Clemence/Peter Shilton situation on our hands. : )

I like the look of Kawin @ Muang Thong United. I've seen their last 2 matches on TV, and he's been really solid in both games. I think he'll be the number 1 challenger to Kosin. Kittisak looks like he's a bit flat footed if you ask me.
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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2009, 11:06:09 AM »

You hit the nail on the head flat footed and not enough talking . What ive seen many keepers are not on there toes .Organize back line better  keep talking  and read play.Good keepers bark alot .
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« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2009, 12:06:33 PM »

Also bang*rude word* glass first goal against chula dont get beat at near post.
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2009, 12:08:22 PM »

PEA goal against bankok glass shocking Shocked no exuse just plain bad
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2009, 01:08:30 PM »

Osotspa's second goal against Samut Songkhram on Sunday was down to the keeper dropping the ball at the feet of an onrushing striker
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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2009, 11:21:00 PM »

chula keeper today meltdown Huh? teflon gloves
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« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2009, 11:23:34 PM »

chula keeper today meltdown Huh? teflon gloves

Something similar happened on Tuesday night.
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2009, 10:18:58 AM »

chula keeper again Huh? he  must have cost them 9 points
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