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« Reply #400 on: December 18, 2009, 11:27:54 AM »

Still can't understand the huge C & E division. How about putting Samut Prakan, Thai Summit, Pathum Thani and Nonthaburi in the Bangkok division and Prachup Kiri Khan in the Southern. Then there would be 14 in BKK, 14 in C & E and 13 in South. Maybe move Loei and/or Nong Bua Lamphu into the Northern, too.
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« Reply #401 on: December 18, 2009, 05:41:45 PM »

Well in that case if anyone can get me some details on our new team I would like to see.
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« Reply #402 on: December 24, 2009, 01:07:41 PM »

www.thaileaguefootball.com reports that the top two from each division will enter the mini-league with more details to follow on the 28th December. Who said they were making it up as they go along!?!?

And Udon Thani are the latest club to boast that they're Premier League bound. We really need a yawning 'smiley' on here!
Meanwhile, a Division 2 club that just signs quality players instead of making idle boasts through the media: http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/koratfc/club_news.pl?news=290473
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« Reply #403 on: December 24, 2009, 02:09:27 PM »

Don't forget your 25% Wink
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« Reply #404 on: December 24, 2009, 02:34:33 PM »

Don't forget your 25% Wink

Damn! They told me it was 12.5%! Angry
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« Reply #405 on: December 27, 2009, 11:50:27 AM »

www.thaileaguefootball.com reports that the top two from each division will enter the mini-league with more details to follow on the 28th December. Who said they were making it up as they go along!?!?

And Udon Thani are the latest club to boast that they're Premier League bound. We really need a yawning 'smiley' on here!
Meanwhile, a Division 2 club that just signs quality players instead of making idle boasts through the media: http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/koratfc/club_news.pl?news=290473


Jakapong Yaito to join Korat from TTM. Another TPL player moves to Korat. Keep talking Udon.
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« Reply #406 on: December 27, 2009, 12:34:41 PM »

It certainly looks as if you're determined to go up this year. Have you had chance to catch up with DLB yet?
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« Reply #407 on: December 27, 2009, 12:36:11 PM »

He's in France at the moment sorting out personal stuff, paperwork, etc
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« Reply #408 on: December 27, 2009, 12:53:47 PM »

Raj will be awarded the D2 trophy today.  I note their club badge defines them as "Sokothai City" as per Loei City. I hope this is a sign of clubs using a name other than "United"
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« Reply #409 on: December 28, 2009, 11:17:26 AM »

Sukothai have announced a budget of four million baht for next season.
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« Reply #410 on: December 28, 2009, 11:57:53 AM »

Raj will be awarded the D2 trophy today.  I note tehir club badge defines them as "Sokothai City" as per Loei City. I hope this is a sign of clubs using a name other than "United"
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« Reply #411 on: December 28, 2009, 04:13:25 PM »

Raj will be awarded the D2 trophy today.  I note tehir club badge defines them as "Sokothai City" as per Loei City. I hope this is a sign of clubs using a name other than "United"

t_e what does it mean? Are they move to Sukothai? Are they come from Sukothai? Or is their a new club from Sukothai?
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« Reply #412 on: December 28, 2009, 04:42:03 PM »

Loko, this is interesting. Either the forum automatically merged my two posts or  an administrator did it. My first post was concerning Rajpracha being given some awards. The second was concerning Sukothai FC, the existing club.

For once, the *rude word* up is not my fault! :-)
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« Reply #413 on: December 29, 2009, 12:20:08 AM »

Thai Air are renamed "Look Esan Thai Air" meaning Children of Esan Thai Air. The club which has was relegated from Division 1 aim to appeal to the large Esan community in Bangkok.

www.thaileaguefootball.com

So another name change, but isn't this just pushing it now? It's a bit of a mouthfull.

Look Esan Thai Air have also played under the names of simply just Thai Airways and Thai Airways-Ban Bueng since i've known Thai football. Obviously, since getting relegated last year, they have kicked Ban Bueng district into touch.

They've also gone flying down the leagues (like the pun!!) and now flown from East Thailand to Bangkok to relocate into another league.

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« Reply #414 on: December 29, 2009, 01:36:55 AM »

Thai Air are renamed "Look Esan Thai Air" meaning Children of Esan Thai Air. The club which has was relegated from Division 1 aim to appeal to the large Esan community in Bangkok.

www.thaileaguefootball.com

So another name change, but isn't this just pushing it now? It's a bit of a mouthfull.

Look Esan Thai Air have also played under the names of simply just Thai Airways and Thai Airways-Ban Bueng since i've known Thai football. Obviously, since getting relegated last year, they have kicked Ban Bueng district into touch.

They've also gone flying down the leagues (like the pun!!) and now flown from East Thailand to Bangkok to relocate into another league.



It all makes no sense to me. The only way out of this for me is, that Thai Airways should crab some money together and put into their Club. How crappy it must look like, if the biggest National Airline of Thailand is related to such a club which is doing unpro in many ways. The same is for PTT, they dont even have a website, but they probably the biggest oil company in Thailand. Osotspa was doing the right way all over the last years I think. As an example how a company based club can work out. And I think they will also notice the marketing value for M-150.

I am not realy like company based clubs, but if you see the value of Marketing for clubs like Bayer (Leverkusen) or  Vfl Wolfsburg (Volkswagen).....

Maybe Thai Airways shouldnt throw millions of bahts in the mouth of big EPL clubs, only to be seen on their adboards, or the referees arms (Air Asia). 
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« Reply #415 on: December 29, 2009, 06:38:58 AM »

Unfortuantly Thai Airways sponsor the New Zealand national football team, all their money goes into them.

A pity they don't want to be associated with Thai football a little bit more. The likes of Thai Airways and PTT would be better off by disbanding their teams and just sponsoring the leagues. Surely this makes more sense for them now with the huge increase in spectators?
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« Reply #416 on: December 31, 2009, 07:00:15 PM »

Division 2 awards:

Fair play award: Loei City
Best Foreign footballer Mr.Gyamfi Adu (Samutprakarn FC).
Most Promising footballer (age not exceeding 23 years), Mr. Korn Hroy (Raj Nonthaburi).
Best Defender Suriya (Raj Nonthaburi).
Best Midfielder  someone from Loei City
Best striker: Someone from Chaing Rai Utd
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« Reply #417 on: December 31, 2009, 07:10:18 PM »

Division 2 awards:

Fair play award: Loei City
Best Foreign footballer Mr.Gyamfi Adu (Samutprakarn FC).
Most Promising footballer (age not exceeding 23 years), Mr. Korn Hroy (Raj Nonthaburi).
Best Defender Suriya (Raj Nonthaburi).
Best Midfielder  someone from Loei City
Best striker: Someone from Chaing Rai Utd

Best Website - www.clubwebsite.co.uk/koratfc Smiley
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« Reply #418 on: December 31, 2009, 07:28:45 PM »

Best coach - The Narathaiwat coach
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« Reply #419 on: January 03, 2010, 11:24:42 AM »

Any one got any details on rayong div 2 Wink cant seam to find anything
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« Reply #420 on: January 03, 2010, 11:54:40 AM »

Nonthaburi already has two football teams. Next season it could (to my knowledge) be the only province outside Bangkok - and we are outside Bangkok - to have a team in all three divisions.

Nonthaburi FC have registered to start in the Central Region of Division Two next season and Siam Sport has an article on the new club. Using a powerful machine (called "wife") to translate the article, it leaves me with mixed feelings.

It really could be taken two ways. On one hand it gives the impression of a young management looking to establish a stronger presence for football in Nonthaburi. This can only be good for the province and fans.

On the downside, the whole thing looks flippant. The club have yet to establish a home ground (it may be at a local university) a squad ("we are currently searching for players") or a sponsor, though they mention a private investor has pledged funds for signing higher league players.

This worries me, surely such things should be arranged before a new club is registered to play in the league?

We also need to ask were the support will come from. Muangthong have quickly become the fashion item of Thai football with attendances through the roof and fans from all over Thailand, Rajpracha have established themselves as the team of choice amongst the underdog fans, or those who feel - as more than one Raj fan has told me - that Raj are the real team of the locals.

Perhaps the new club could situate themselves in, say, Sai Noi and regionalise their support. Alternatively they could attach themselves to a certain demographic. For example, if they play at a university they could attract student support, as Chula United have done. Then again, they could just base themselves anywhere and hope the locals attend and support more than one team. Many do.

In any case I guess it would be good to see a third team in Nonthaburi as long as it is well run. At the moment, nothing seems very sure and I would be disappointed but not surprised if Nonthaburi FC become one of several new Division 2 clubs which either disappear quickly, or simply fail to materialise at all.
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« Reply #421 on: January 08, 2010, 12:31:25 PM »

Loei look to be the latest club to have changed their crest www.loeicityfanclub.com Am I the only one who would like to see clubs stop this practice of constantly changing crests, colours, nicknames etc? I know it's not a big thing but it would be nice to see clubs trying to establish an identity and, over time, a tradition. Or is it a 'Thai thing' about trying to change their luck?
In other Loei related news, Korat have signed Ghanaian midfielder Bani from their northeast rivals. Bani was a first-team regular for Loei last season. I like the theory: sign Loei's best players to prevent a repeat of last season!  Cheesy
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« Reply #422 on: January 08, 2010, 12:36:48 PM »

Division 2 awards:

Fair play award: Loei City
Best Foreign footballer Mr.Gyamfi Adu (Samutprakarn FC).
Most Promising footballer (age not exceeding 23 years), Mr. Korn Hroy (Raj Nonthaburi).
Best Defender Suriya (Raj Nonthaburi).
Best Midfielder  someone from Loei City
Best striker: Someone from Chaing Rai Utd

How many goals did he score? I think you know where I'm going with this.  Wink

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« Reply #423 on: January 08, 2010, 02:44:00 PM »



I think that's a competition too many.

The competition just played might aswell have been this Regional Super Cup in the making.

If FAT don't watch themselves, they will kill the game with in my opinion, needless tournements.

And why FAT had to outdo themselves with inviting Chiang Mai and Phitsanulok is beyond me?


Is this competiton even still happening? I only ask because we're scheduled to play Saraburi F.C on Jan' 25th and they aren't one of the competing teams.

EDIT: I suppose they might have been brought in to replace Rajpracha who pulled out.
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« Reply #424 on: January 08, 2010, 04:18:12 PM »

Still can't understand the huge C & E division. How about putting Samut Prakan, Thai Summit, Pathum Thani and Nonthaburi in the Bangkok division and Prachup Kiri Khan in the Southern. Then there would be 14 in BKK, 14 in C & E and 13 in South. Maybe move Loei and/or Nong Bua Lamphu into the Northern, too.


Rumour is this (or something like it) could be happening - and Korat are one of the teams being moved.
http://webboard.koratfc.net/index.php?topic=3618.0 (Thai)
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« Reply #425 on: January 08, 2010, 07:10:07 PM »

Division 2 awards:

Fair play award: Loei City
Best Foreign footballer Mr.Gyamfi Adu (Samutprakarn FC).
Most Promising footballer (age not exceeding 23 years), Mr. Korn Hroy (Raj Nonthaburi).
Best Defender Suriya (Raj Nonthaburi).
Best Midfielder  someone from Loei City
Best striker: Someone from Chaing Rai Utd

How many goals did he score? I think you know where I'm going with this.  Wink



Sorry mate I really don't know! But yes, I can guess where you're going! :-)

I understand from Nig that d2 teams will be 'revealed' next week. Does this mean the list we have already is simply provisional? What's the point in having it then? Why not just wait until teams are confirmed?
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« Reply #426 on: January 09, 2010, 03:25:16 AM »

Division 2 awards:

Fair play award: Loei City
Best Foreign footballer Mr.Gyamfi Adu (Samutprakarn FC).
Most Promising footballer (age not exceeding 23 years), Mr. Korn Hroy (Raj Nonthaburi).
Best Defender Suriya (Raj Nonthaburi).
Best Midfielder  someone from Loei City
Best striker: Someone from Chaing Rai Utd

How many goals did he score? I think you know where I'm going with this.  Wink



Sorry mate I really don't know! But yes, I can guess where you're going! :-)

I understand from Nig that d2 teams will be 'revealed' next week. Does this mean the list we have already is simply provisional? What's the point in having it then? Why not just wait until teams are confirmed?


As far as i'm aware. The orginal list was from the deadline that was for clubs entering.

The 2nd deadline, will be announcment of clubs that have been accepted.

To be far to FAT, they have never disclosed any information of whom would be in or accepted on their official website. I'm not sure where nigb gets his news from, but if its from the media, it can always be incorrect.

But as Loko has said before, we will never really know who's in until the day of the kickoff, thats when we will get our confirmation.
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« Reply #427 on: January 10, 2010, 11:14:22 AM »

But as Loko has said before, we will never really know who's in until the day of the kickoff, thats when we will get our confirmation.

Or as Ubon United proved, we don't know who's in till three-quarters of the way through the season!
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« Reply #428 on: January 11, 2010, 08:46:21 PM »

***Unconfirmed rumour***

4 teams to be relegated from Division 1.

 So should be 4 going up, from how many leagues? 4 or 5?
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« Reply #429 on: January 11, 2010, 09:56:17 PM »

Here is the news from today... http://www.thaileaguefootball.com/index.php?lay=show&ac=article&Id=86708&Ntype=1
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« Reply #430 on: January 11, 2010, 11:04:38 PM »



How did FAT determine how many teams would qualify from each group? Obviously they just decided that more teams in the leagues, the more get qualification to the mini groups.

But is that really a fair system? Looking at last years leagues, the most competitive would seem to have been the Bangkok league, yet they now get the lowest allocation.

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« Reply #431 on: January 12, 2010, 12:24:09 PM »

For me it would make more sense if the following happened :

TPL - 3 teams relegated
Div 1 - 3 teams promoted and 5 relegated
Div 2 - 5 teams promoted  - the champions of each regional league

Or is that too sensible?
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« Reply #432 on: January 12, 2010, 12:50:50 PM »

Central

Samut Prakhan
Ayutthaya
Saraburi
Lopburi
Chachoengsao
Rayong
Ratchaburi
Nakhon Nayok
Samut Sakhon
Pathum Thani
Ang Thong
Kanchanaburi
Petchaburi
Gabinburi
Sra Kaeow
Prachinburi United


North

Pichit
Chainat
Uttradit
Petchabun
Phitsanolouk
Kamphaeng Phet
Sukhothai
Chiang Mai
Prea
Tak
Singburi
Nakhon Sawan
Lamphang
Uthai Thani
Payao
Chiang Rai FC


North East

Loei
Nakhon Ratchasima
Udon Thani
Buriram
Nakhon Panim
Chaiyaphum
Surin
Mahasakham
Mukdahan
Sakhon Nakhon
Roi Et
Ubon Tiger
Galasin
Nong Kai
Nong Bua ampoo
Yasothorn

 
South

Satun
Nakhon Sri Tammerat
Pattani
Krabi
Yala
Phuket
Pattalung
Prachuap Khiri Khan
Trang
Surat Thani
Ranong
Phanga
Chumphon
Hat Yai


Bangkok

Kasembundit
North Bangkok
Rajavithi
Bangkok Christian
Bangkok Bravo
Kasetsart
Rangsit
Rachaphat Nakhon Sawan
North Central
Thai Air Look Isaan
Rose Asia Prathum Thani
Thai Summit
Nonthumburi
 
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« Reply #433 on: January 12, 2010, 01:04:48 PM »

It's far from a great system, but it's better than last season. Of course, if they had put this system in place when the league was launched then we would have qualified for the mini-league....

They are getting there, though. Slowly, slowly, slowly they are getting there. We might have the kind of league we want within a few years. Their aim has to be to find a system and settle on it - for good.
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« Reply #434 on: January 12, 2010, 01:10:39 PM »

Chiang Rai? They went up! A new Chiang Rai team?
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« Reply #435 on: January 12, 2010, 01:21:25 PM »

It's far from a great system, but it's better than last season. Of course, if they had put this system in place when the league was launched then we would have qualified for the mini-league....

They are getting there, though. Slowly, slowly, slowly they are getting there. We might have the kind of league we want within a few years. Their aim has to be to find a system and settle on it - for good.

I'm not too keen on the "Mini League" idea. As you said last year, Vinnie, if you win the league then you should go up. I still prefer this :

TPL - 3 teams relegated
Div 1 - 3 teams promoted and 5 relegated
Div 2 - 5 teams promoted  - the champions of each regional league

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« Reply #436 on: January 12, 2010, 01:46:28 PM »

The mini-league is still the unsavoury part of the set-up but at least now we have two or three play-off places which, if nothing else, keeps the season more interesting for longer. Last year in the Northern division it was obvious who the champions were after ten games.
But the crying shame is that with all these teams it would have been so, so easy to create a 'Division 1 B' as I've been calling for since the inception of the RL. Then we could have had as many as the top two from each division AUTOMATICALLY promoted.
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« Reply #437 on: January 12, 2010, 01:51:54 PM »

Chiang Rai? They went up! A new Chiang Rai team?

To answer my own question: this is apparently a new team. Chiang Rai United were the promoted team and Chiang Rai F.C are the new team. What a terrible idea!
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« Reply #438 on: January 13, 2010, 01:10:39 AM »

It's far from a great system, but it's better than last season. Of course, if they had put this system in place when the league was launched then we would have qualified for the mini-league....

They are getting there, though. Slowly, slowly, slowly they are getting there. We might have the kind of league we want within a few years. Their aim has to be to find a system and settle on it - for good.

I'm not too keen on the "Mini League" idea. As you said last year, Vinnie, if you win the league then you should go up. I still prefer this :

TPL - 3 teams relegated
Div 1 - 3 teams promoted and 5 relegated
Div 2 - 5 teams promoted  - the champions of each regional league



I totally agree with SRS. And 4 relagation spots in a league with 16 clubs is too much.
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« Reply #439 on: January 13, 2010, 03:53:02 AM »

So, from what i can gether, Sarawitia of last years Bangkok League are the only team not to enter this year?

Singburi have moved from the central-east league to the northern league

Thai Summit have moved from the central-east to the Bangkok League

Prachuap Khiri Khan have moved from the central-east league to the southern league

Rose Asia have moved from Central-East to Bangkok League
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« Reply #440 on: January 13, 2010, 10:49:04 AM »


I totally agree with SRS. And 4 relagation spots in a league with 16 clubs is too much.

Maybe, but they won't get any sympathy from me. Korat were originally relegated to this level when they finished fourth from bottom in a twelve team division in 2007.
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« Reply #441 on: January 13, 2010, 11:06:49 AM »

Ubon Tiger being officially launched on January 22nd with a press conference and a warm up match against BEC. Deja vu...
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« Reply #442 on: January 13, 2010, 01:09:30 PM »



How did FAT determine how many teams would qualify from each group? Obviously they just decided that more teams in the leagues, the more get qualification to the mini groups.

But is that really a fair system? Looking at last years leagues, the most competitive would seem to have been the Bangkok league, yet they now get the lowest allocation.




Can we get confirmation on the play-off places allocation? I've heard it's the top two for each division and the two third place sides with the most points (not sure how they would do this given that there are differing numbers in the divisions) making a total of twelve play-off positions - 6 in each group.
Go to the Division 2 section on www.thaileagueonline.com Can any good Thai readers confirm this?
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« Reply #443 on: January 13, 2010, 05:00:00 PM »

Any further news about Nonthaburi FC?
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« Reply #444 on: January 13, 2010, 05:54:08 PM »

Fixtures out tomorrow.
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« Reply #445 on: January 13, 2010, 09:11:35 PM »

I had a look at this http://www.thaileagueonline.com/homepage/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=32%3Adivision-2&id=420%3A-2-&Itemid=55

from what I can make out of it there will be 12 teams in the mini league, 2 groups of 6. Top 2 from each group promoted.

Can you imagine how long the season is for these teams. With 16 teams in the league it will start in Feb and must almost reach Dec.
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« Reply #446 on: January 15, 2010, 11:18:58 AM »

Prachup Kiri Khan pulled out of league. Insufficient budget and concerns about safety now they're in the southern division were the reasons given.
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« Reply #447 on: January 15, 2010, 03:58:28 PM »

That's a shame. Does the province have any other representation? I said a while back I couldn't understand why Hua Hin does not have a football team.
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« Reply #448 on: January 15, 2010, 04:09:47 PM »

That's a shame. Does the province have any other representation? I said a while back I couldn't understand why Hua Hin does not have a football team.
No. The FAT has a 'one province - one team' rule for the RL.
Obviously it doesn't apply for Bangkok. And presumably wouldn't apply if Rajpracha or Chiang Rai United were relegated back to the RL (of course we now have Chiang Rai F.C in the northern div' and Nonthaburi F.C in the BKK div'). But it's the reason why Ubon had to abandon their plans to have two teams in the RL.
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« Reply #449 on: January 15, 2010, 04:38:54 PM »

Thanks for that Vinnie.

Nig where did you get the D2 fixtures from? I'd like to see Nonthaburi's schedule.
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