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Unlucky for Korat, it seems their downfall were them 7 draws. Seems Nakhon Phanom could be your bogey team.
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« Reply #302 on: September 14, 2009, 02:34:05 PM » |
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« Reply #303 on: September 14, 2009, 03:26:59 PM » |
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« Reply #304 on: September 14, 2009, 03:38:58 PM » |
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It can't have been much fun for you writing that report, Vinnie. But thanks. As I said in a previous post, you still have the FA Cup to play for. Indeed. I just wrote it on the hoof earlier today, I didn't make notes during the match. I was gutted at the time but I'm more philosophical now. Despite what happened, this is still our most successful season ever. If at the start of the season, you'd offered me 2nd place in the league, quarter-finals (at least) in the FA Cup and crowds of 5,000+, I'd have bitten your hand off. The fact is we've displayed only mid-table form in the second-half of the season and, ultimately, we've been found out. You saw the match against Buriram; that's pretty much how they've been playing since June. Yes, we beat Loei 4-2 just a few weeks ago but that was a hugely flattering win that just papered over some cracks - as the defeat at Chaiyaphum immediately after that Loei game proved. Our defence has looked shaky all season and yet no new defenders have been brought in during the campaign. If this had been a 30 game season then I believe Loei would have won the division by a much greater margin and we probably would have ended up in 3rd or 4th place. All of which is very frustrating because in the FA Cup we've beaten Division 1 opposition twice and TPL opposition once. I'm sure some Korat fans are scratching their heads at how we can hold our own against a TPL team who have recently taken points off Bangkok Glass and Muang Thong and yet fail to beat, both home and away, a Mukdahan side which eventually finished second-bottom in the league. What adds to the frustration is the realisation that Promphong probably won't be with us next season. I don't think we'll get a better chance of winning the division than we've had this year. With the number 9 on fire and lots of new clubs still trying to get settled on and off the pitch, it really was there for the taking. I'm certain it'll be much tougher next time round as Udon, Buriram, Surin and Nakhon Phanom will all be stronger than they were this season. Another amazing attendance on Sunday of approaching 6,000. At this rate of expansion we should easily top 10,000 next season. But those drunken pr*cks who have followed the club for five minutes, laughably crying after the match, wearing their '2009 Champions' t-shirts, need not come back. Roll on next season!  |
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« Reply #306 on: September 15, 2009, 12:19:54 AM » |
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« Reply #307 on: September 15, 2009, 12:32:11 AM » |
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Might be, but I think its might a bit different and more difficult than for MTU in my eyes. As mentioned in a different post, always do not foget that Siam Sports Syndicate is the owner MTU, and they also got the order from the TPL and the FAT to make the promotion of the TPL. So I guess they know what they do  |
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« Reply #308 on: September 15, 2009, 12:26:01 PM » |
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Vinnie, as the club has been "found" this season in a city as big and wealthy as Korat, do you see some major sponsors getting on board and making a mission to get the club promoted to the TPL eventually?
As MTU make big waves commercially I can see some wealthy corners of Thailand making such missions.
I'm not sure if big national company will come on board while we're still in Division 2. I believe there is money coming in from certain quarters already and we had quite a lot of local sponsors this season - there are three serperate sponsors on the shirt. Financially we're going to have an advantage over other teams at this level just because of our attendances. |
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« Reply #309 on: September 15, 2009, 01:36:36 PM » |
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"And the moral of the story is: Don't produce '2009 Champions' merchandise before you actually are champions."
Two stories on a similar theme for you. In the 1973/74 season, Bristol Rovers had lead the English 3rd Division for a long time and at one stage they were something like 15pts clear of Oldham (only 2pts for a win in those days). So confident were they of lifting the title they produced a book called "Bristol Rovers - Third Division Champions 1973/74". Copies were on display in local shops when we visited Eastville on Easter Saturday. We beat them 2-1. A few weeks later, Oldham drew 0-0 at Plymouth and snatched the championship. Those books must be worth a fortune now.
Fast forward to the last Saturday of the 1990/91 season. West Ham were at home to Notts County and Oldham played Sheffield Wednesday at Boundary Park. West Ham, Oldham and Wednesday were already guaranteed promotion but the title was still up for grabs. Deep into the second half West Ham were losing at home to Notts but still in pole position because Oldham were also 2-0 down. We needed to win and West Ham needed to lose for us to be crowned champions. Even I admit that such an outcome was very unlikely at this stage.
200 miles south the celebrations had already started and West Ham's name had been engraved on the 2nd Division trophy, which was already at Upton Park for the presentation. Hammer's fans were all dancing on the pitch and the players were getting ready to receive the cup when news filtered through that Oldham had won, courtesy of a last minute penalty by Neil Redfearn (I'm getting goosebumps just typing this). The trophy was hastily removed from view and shipped up to Oldham for the following day's presentation. It still had West Ham's name on it when it was handed over to our victorious team on the balcony at Oldham Civic Centre.
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« Reply #310 on: September 15, 2009, 02:23:43 PM » |
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Proof that it isn't over till the final whistle blows. People were getting far too carried away on Saturday and not taking into account certain facts such as the fact that we went into the game on the same points as Loei, it's not as if we had that much of an advantage over them. Final couple of points before puttting the whole business to bed: When Ubon pulled out of the league they said that Loei were going to do the same; I'm guessing they're not going to bother now - it was obviously a very principled stand they were taking. : 43 points would have seen us comfortably top of either Division 2 section last season.
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« Reply #311 on: September 16, 2009, 03:37:25 PM » |
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From www.thaileaguefootball.comChaing Mai Utd hire new management and gain 10 million baht sposorship. The biggest city in the north aim to have their club in the Premier League in two years time.The next Phuket FC? Why do certain clubs feel this need to annouce how quickly they intend to advance through the league? It's arrogant, disrespectful and just serves to set themselves up for a fall. Why not just work hard on the training field, work hard behind the scenes and work hard promoting your club within the community and see what happens? We can do without proclamations. |
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« Reply #312 on: September 18, 2009, 05:24:40 AM » |
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Ok, the regular season is over, what did you guys think to it?
I obviously can't discuss about the on field events, because i haven't seen any.
But, compare this year to last season. Last season was a personal struggle to find any information, there was maybe one source on th net that loaded very, very slowly.
This year, FAT seem to have brought the 2nd division (now Regional League) into the fold, almost like they have finally accepted them.
Now, previously we have had mixed groups, with teams going all over the country for a game.
My question to you is, is it better to stay in regional groups playing good old fasioned derbies, but in most cases stuffing the opponents, or is it better to be driving up and down the country and battling for them 1-0 wins, albeit with no fans??
Some thoughts i've had (sorry to go on, but i've seen a great Everton victory tonight!!)
This year, some teams have been out of their depth, one league (Northern) was won at a canter, some clubs will of course fall by the wayside and possibly be replaced
The Southern league was almost other before it began with regards to the number of games being played, although it did go to the wire.
Bangkok league seems to be either the most competitive or most dour with regards to lack of goals in soem games.
North eastern league lost some of its appeal when Ubon pulled out and the league table was changed on a daily basis without kicking a ball.
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« Reply #313 on: September 18, 2009, 08:18:19 AM » |
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As I understood, Ubon is forming a new team under a new management anticipating to enter D2 next season. However, according to D2 regulation, any team that pulled out in the middle of the seeaon suppose to face two seasons ban and it is unclear how that will effect the elledged newly from team from the association. A two-season term suspension would definitely hurt local football development but no consequences would also open another loophole for counter productive football C.I.  What abuout Chonburi's newly formed league? Which D2 will the league Champ get promote to, D2-BKK which currently has 11 teams or D2-South which has only 8 teams at the moment? |
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« Reply #314 on: September 18, 2009, 03:08:09 PM » |
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« Reply #315 on: September 19, 2009, 12:19:25 PM » |
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Ok, the regular season is over, what did you guys think to it?
I obviously can't discuss about the on field events, because i haven't seen any.
But, compare this year to last season. Last season was a personal struggle to find any information, there was maybe one source on th net that loaded very, very slowly.
This year, FAT seem to have brought the 2nd division (now Regional League) into the fold, almost like they have finally accepted them.
Now, previously we have had mixed groups, with teams going all over the country for a game.
My question to you is, is it better to stay in regional groups playing good old fasioned derbies, but in most cases stuffing the opponents, or is it better to be driving up and down the country and battling for them 1-0 wins, albeit with no fans??
Some thoughts i've had (sorry to go on, but i've seen a great Everton victory tonight!!)
This year, some teams have been out of their depth, one league (Northern) was won at a canter, some clubs will of course fall by the wayside and possibly be replaced
The Southern league was almost other before it began with regards to the number of games being played, although it did go to the wire.
Bangkok league seems to be either the most competitive or most dour with regards to lack of goals in soem games.
North eastern league lost some of its appeal when Ubon pulled out and the league table was changed on a daily basis without kicking a ball.
The introduction of a Regional League was a good idea but the executuion was terrible, particularly with regards to promotion. How can the FAT allow the league to kick-off without deciding what they are going to do about promotion? Sad to say, it's not the first time that's happened. I know I'm covering old ground here but it bears repeating: We can't have a system where champions are not automatically promoted. Therefore the FAT have to change the league in one of two ways: Introduce another division at the Division 1 level as was the situation in 2007 or merge the teams from Div 2 Bangkok into the other four divisions (geographically it makes most sense to do this with the BKK division) thereby leaving four divisions in the Regional League; you then have four relegated from Div 1 with each Regional League champion going in the other direction. |
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« Reply #316 on: September 20, 2009, 05:37:55 PM » |
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Who does everyone want to see go up from the Regional League. I'd like to see Chaing Rai (surely no team deserves it more than them after the season they've had), Narathiwat (missed out after conceding a 92nd minute equaliser on the last day of the season last year) and Rajpracha for their history.
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« Reply #317 on: September 21, 2009, 01:28:08 AM » |
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I 2nd that Vinnie, of course if Korat managed to get in there then i would have swapped them for Chiang Rai. But the same principles you have, i would have aswell
Of course, if Narathiwat do go up, then FAT really do need Surat Thani to get relegated (which looks like happening) to even out the numbers again.
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« Reply #318 on: September 21, 2009, 12:13:21 PM » |
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Chiang Rai - could you imagine seeing them back in Div 2 north next year, thats just wrong. Also want to see a big team from the north.
Narathiwat - would be good to see the deep southern area represented to see a true national league emerge.
Samut Prakan - Great spirit in the club. Would love to see them go all the way, they could become a massive club.
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« Reply #319 on: September 21, 2009, 12:16:10 PM » |
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Yes, that is another good reason to want to see Chaing Rai and Narathiwat go up - to take a lot of the Div 1 clubs out of their Bangkok-centric comfort zone and make the national divisions more representative.
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« Reply #320 on: September 21, 2009, 12:19:53 PM » |
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« Reply #321 on: September 21, 2009, 03:12:59 PM » |
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« Reply #324 on: September 23, 2009, 04:25:52 AM » |
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Rajpracha, Thaibev Stadium - isn't this meant to be a Nonthaburi team? My wife just looked at the map on the club OS and said their ground is in Ramkamhaeng!
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« Reply #325 on: September 23, 2009, 02:16:31 PM » |
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Rajpracha, Thaibev Stadium - isn't this meant to be a Nonthaburi team? My wife just looked at the map on the club OS and said their ground is in Ramkamhaeng!
Gutted, I would have liked to go and watch them.
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« Reply #326 on: September 23, 2009, 03:15:15 PM » |
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Yes, I'm sure they play in Nonthaburi. It's the stadium that's wrong.
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« Reply #327 on: September 23, 2009, 04:43:02 PM » |
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« Reply #328 on: September 23, 2009, 06:03:04 PM » |
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I've added the team on Facebook and someone sent me a map that appears to show they are using a stadium near my home. I've left a message on their forum asking for more details.
As far as I can tell, they play on Saturdays at 4pm, I leave work at 4pm but my work is nearby, so I should be able to make the second half and would not miss any Muangthong games.
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« Reply #329 on: September 23, 2009, 06:10:25 PM » |
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t.e. wouldn't it than not be of more interest to run a blog about Raj-Pracha rather than MTU? Compared to MTU, they have a big history and may could need some attantion and promotion ;-)
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« Reply #330 on: September 24, 2009, 05:56:25 PM » |
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Well my German chum, I'm going to see them (Rajpracha) play on October 3rd. Let's see how it goes. I could always blog on both
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« Reply #331 on: September 24, 2009, 07:12:10 PM » |
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Well my German chum, I'm going to see them (Rajpracha) play on October 3rd. Let's see how it goes. I could always blog on both
Nice and interesting blog btw. It is nice to see how different blogs can look and be. Marco's blog as well as yours having the same intantion. But are totally diferent. Makes it very interesting. Keep it up. |
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« Reply #332 on: September 27, 2009, 05:39:33 AM » |
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A blistering match, but Chiangrai United won by 2 - 1 of Loei City and thus made its first step
towards membership of the national Division 1 of the Thai Football Association by pocketing
the first three points.
The first chance for Chiangrai United to take the lead was a penalty in the 20st minute of the game. Loei was playing sportive but tough.
But as we remember of the match against Sukhotai: penalties are not our strongest side and the goalies of the other side are not really willing to please us either. It was a fantastic save of the keeper of Loei!
After 32 minutes finally the relief came, but 13 minutes later, only less than a minute before tea-time the equalizer was already put on the score board as well.
Loei City played a very strong first half and the 1 - 1 was not really assuring at the begin of the second.
It took almost half an hour fo CRUTD to take the lead again.
The final stage was for CRUTD. The last ten minutes the team seemed to be able to play the stars down from heaven and at least three goals were hanging in the air but didn't come down to earth because stars simply not are supposed to do so.
It was great entertainment and the stadium was full, even more than so. Including the supporters behind the fences of the four corners of the field I estimate the total number of visitors on a little bit over 4000.
It's amazing how popular football became in Chiang Rai in such a short time. I hear from many sides that it is a national trend and it is great that good old Chiang Rai is an exponent of it.
New were the cheerleaders, the orchestre and the tea-time entertainment. A game of CRUTD is more and more becoming a happening of the first order. A pity that I don't know how to add pictures to this forum.
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Top game tomorrow 3rd October Police vs Si Saket live on http://sisaketfc.com/vdo_online.phpIf Sisaket loos while KK get 3 points, they are on level again. And maybe Pranchinburi still have a small chance for the 3rd spot. |
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Top game tomorrow 3rd October Police vs Si Saket live on http://sisaketfc.com/vdo_online.phpIf Sisaket loos while KK get 3 points, they are on level again. And maybe Pranchinburi still have a small chance for the 3rd spot. And I'll be watching Rajpracha Vs Chang Rai United. |
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« Reply #337 on: October 05, 2009, 03:26:37 PM » |
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"If the performance against Loei had been imposing what came next was downright destructive. Bottom-of-the-table Roiet travelled to the SEA Games Stadium on a hiding-to-nothing; and that's exactly what they got. Korat mauled their cowering opponents in an astonishing second-half attack. Promphong had taken two bites out of the visitors in the first half and tortured his prey with four more in the second as he collected a double hat trick. Pratheep joined in with the overkill by scoring one for himself, and Kongnatee picked the carcass clean in the 92nd minute with his first and Korat's eigth goal. Roiet's defenders had been torn apart, chewed up and spat out by Korat's marauding predators..."Review of Korat's season, part one, here http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/koratfc/club_news.pl?news=245730
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Since I'm a) married and b) a teacher on school holidays, I actually have little better to do than research division 2 grounds and possibly throw together a google map set.
For my first project, which is Bangkok and area, I have a few mysteries:
1) BCC's Ramkamhaeng Stadium - is this not the same as the Rajamangala Stadium? (I've left a message on their forum asking them)
2) Kasetsart University's Intree Chantarasatit Stadium - No information. Is it inside the Uni campus?
3) Nakhon Sawan Rajabhat University's stadium. No details.
4) Do Raj vithi still ground share with BEC Tero?
5) Kasem Bundit - I'm seeking confirmation of the exact ground location.
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« Reply #342 on: October 16, 2009, 07:20:11 PM » |
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Since I'm a) married and b) a teacher on school holidays, I actually have little better to do than research division 2 grounds and possibly throw together a google map set.
For my first project, which is Bangkok and area, I have a few mysteries:
1) BCC's Ramkamhaeng Stadium - is this not the same as the Rajamangala Stadium? (I've left a message on their forum asking them)
2) Kasetsart University's Intree Chantarasatit Stadium - No information. Is it inside the Uni campus?
3) Nakhon Sawan Rajabhat University's stadium. No details.
4) Do Raj vithi still ground share with BEC Tero?
5) Kasem Bundit - I'm seeking confirmation of the exact ground location.
Any help is welcome.
cheers to marriage, Ramkamhaeng stadium is in Ramhamhaeng University campus and is not the same as Rajamangla. It's a beautiful little stadium, maybe 8 thousand capacity and would have been perfect for Osotspa as their company and fan base are about 1km away on Ramkamheang road and they would have got a lot of fans from the University. |
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« Reply #344 on: October 31, 2009, 12:23:31 PM » |
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« Reply #345 on: October 31, 2009, 11:03:56 PM » |
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Is it correct that former national coach Chatchai Paholpat is taking over Phuket?
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« Reply #348 on: November 02, 2009, 11:41:46 AM » |
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Yeah it is, i think FAT just decided what month it would start, expect games to kick off on the 3rd
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Vinnie
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« Reply #349 on: November 02, 2009, 11:48:34 AM » |
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I just managed to download that calendar. The division 2 "strat" date looks like a bit of an after-thought and the league isn't referred to again throughout the calendar. I can't see how it can start on the 3rd because of the FA Cup.
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