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« Reply #251 on: August 19, 2009, 01:26:19 AM » |
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The FAT send out a stern warning to clubs in Thailand as Ubon United have been banned from competition for two years for withdrawing their club from Div 2 RL midseason. Additionally they will be fined 50 000 Baht and made to refund 100 000 baht to the FAT. All of Ubons records will be deleted except for red and yellow cards. http://www.thaileaguefootball.com/Does this mean that all results are null and void and all teams records will be amended accordingly? |
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« Reply #252 on: August 19, 2009, 12:25:43 PM » |
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Sunday was an amazing occasion. I'm still dragging my family round the country so no time to write now but I'll write a full report tomorow.
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« Reply #253 on: August 20, 2009, 12:18:39 PM » |
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« Reply #254 on: August 20, 2009, 03:59:05 PM » |
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A belated report...
Korat 4-2 Loei City
A match that could possibly be described as a title decider was played out in front of Korat's biggest crowd by far of the season. Going into the game the visitors had won seven in a row, whilst Korat, though still unbeaten, have at times looked a shadow of their early season selves. On the preceding weekend Loei had comfortably beaten third-place Nakhon Phanom 2-0, whilst Korat had only managed to beat Roiet by a two-goal margin (this after putting eight past them earlier in the season). In my book Loei were undoubtedly favourites to win the match although I'm sure their coach would have played down such claims.
There were huge crowds outside the stadium at kick-off time and it was no surprise that kick-off was put back thirty minutes. For the first time this season I actually had to queue to buy tickets! Inside the stadium and more firsts. A new club shop has been constucted and our first matchday programme was available to buy. I even found myself getting caught up in the enthusiasm having spent all week feeling convinced that Loei were going to end our unbeaten run.
So the match got underway and within a minute Korat had the lead! Criminally under-used Pratheep Supapong tapped home after the keeper spilt a simple catch from a right-wing free-kick at the number 11's feet. Loei, to their credit, were not flustered by this dramatic start and looked quite the better side when on fifteen minutes, against the run of play, Korat went 2-0 up. Pratheep stayed on side as a ball came over the top and he deftly flicked it over the advancing keeper. Delight for Korat, but why oh why has the always impressive and free-scoring Pratheep not been used more this season? (SRS, I seem to remember telling you about him at the Buriram game)
2-0 to the hosts and some fans were already thinking about promotion play-offs. But I didn't feel relaxed. The fact was that Loei looked the better footballing side. They rolled the ball around in a way which Korat no longer seem capable of. It was no surprise then when on 35 minutes the visitors pulled one back. They gained access to the Korat penalty area far too easily, the ball broke to a Loei forward who slotted home as half a dozen Korat players looked on. I now feared the worst. There seemed to be an unstoppable inevitability about Loei's comeback. And so it was on the stroke of half time that alledged defender Somyod Wanasut stuck out an arm as the Loei attacker ran in front of him, the referee had no hesitation in pointing to the spot, and the penalty taker had no hesitation in putting the ball to goalkeeper Yongyuth's right. 2-2 and the next time the whistle blew it was for half time.
The half time chat was mainly concerned with how many we thought Loei would end up scoring. 2-4 or 2-5 were the most popular predictions for full time scores. However, with top scorer Promphong on for the second half (finally, for the first time this season, the two best strikers at the club actually get to play together!) Korat couldn't be entirely discounted. And so it was to prove. The ensuing 45 minutes of football may, in years to come, be looked back on as the most important half of football in the club's history. It started as dramatically as the first. Again, within sixty seconds of kick-off, Korat had scored. The referee again awarding a generous penalty, this time in Korat's favour. Pratheep was not to be given the opportunity of completing his hat trick as Promphong grabbed the ball, placed it on the spot and despatched the ball for his 23rd goal of the season in all competitions.
Again Loei found themselves chasing a game that they should have been leading. Korat had a bit more of the play in the second half; inevitable with the two potent attackers playing side by side. 'Prommers' should have made it 4-2 as he raced onto a through ball. He's an absolute nightmare for defenders when he plays 'on their shoulder'. He's superb at staying onside and so quick over the first 10-15 yards that at times he is almost impossible to keep at bay. This time though the keeper was equal to the strike and did really well to keep out the number 9's confident effort. Soon enough though, it was 4-2. Unsung stalwart Jiranawut Thiprod drifted out to the left with the ball, survived being chopped to the ground by a Loei defender, carried on his merry way as the ref waved play-on, exchanged a one/two with (I think) Phanomkorn, and smashed the ball into the top corner - a goal of the season contender from the unlikliest source.
Loei's race was run and Korat it was who ran down the clock and claimed an astonshing, unlikely and unforgettable victory.
Honourable mentions go to the large away support; the people behind the scenes at Korat who publicized the match so well; and to the Korat people for turning up in their thousands. From 256 to 5,000 over the course of the past six home league matches. Not bad.
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« Reply #255 on: August 20, 2009, 04:34:17 PM » |
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The FAT send out a stern warning to clubs in Thailand as Ubon United have been banned from competition for two years for withdrawing their club from Div 2 RL midseason. Additionally they will be fined 50 000 Baht and made to refund 100 000 baht to the FAT. All of Ubons records will be deleted except for red and yellow cards. http://www.thaileaguefootball.com/Does this mean that all results are null and void and all teams records will be amended accordingly? No. The teams that were due to play Ubon are being awarded 2-0 victories. That will include Korat who were scheduled to travel to Ubon on the penultimate matchday of the season. Well, so I thought. Monday's edition of Siam Geela showed the northeast table with every team having played 18 matches, with the extra points and goals added to Udon's and Surin's tallies (the two teams that should have played Ubon). It definitely says under the table that 2-0 victories are being awarded to the teams that were scheduled to play Ubon. BUT....the FAT website shows the table with Ubon stuck on 16 matches and Udon and Surin on 17. Can anyone clarify what's happening? p.s Signature duly updated   |
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« Reply #256 on: August 21, 2009, 10:35:20 AM » |
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Great report, Vinnie. And good to see that the locals were out in force. Let's hope that they continue to turn up.
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« Reply #257 on: August 23, 2009, 11:10:03 AM » |
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Congratulations to Narathiwat and Rajpacha on winning their respective divisions. Narathiwat deserve particular praise as they were denied promotion to Div 1 last year by a 92nd minute equaliser in the final game of the season.
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« Reply #258 on: August 24, 2009, 01:06:27 AM » |
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« Reply #259 on: August 24, 2009, 11:10:48 AM » |
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« Reply #260 on: August 24, 2009, 11:21:15 AM » |
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« Reply #261 on: August 24, 2009, 11:33:39 AM » |
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Typically, I'm not and I was an irritable bag of nerves during the Loei match last week. But when they (Loei) fail to beat Surin at home, and when they must have known throughout the second half that we had lost (we kicked off an hour before them) and yet it still didn't inspire them to victory then perhaps it really is going to happen. Next week we're at home to a Sakhon Nakhon side who are showing worse form than Roiet. I think we are going to do it - become champions that is. As for promotion, who knows? Thanks once again FAT!
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« Reply #262 on: August 24, 2009, 03:29:50 PM » |
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The FAT send out a stern warning to clubs in Thailand as Ubon United have been banned from competition for two years for withdrawing their club from Div 2 RL midseason. Additionally they will be fined 50 000 Baht and made to refund 100 000 baht to the FAT. All of Ubons records will be deleted except for red and yellow cards. http://www.thaileaguefootball.com/Does this mean that all results are null and void and all teams records will be amended accordingly? The FAT send out a stern warning to clubs in Thailand as Ubon United have been banned from competition for two years for withdrawing their club from Div 2 RL midseason. Additionally they will be fined 50 000 Baht and made to refund 100 000 baht to the FAT. All of Ubons records will be deleted except for red and yellow cards. http://www.thaileaguefootball.com/Does this mean that all results are null and void and all teams records will be amended accordingly? No. The teams that were due to play Ubon are being awarded 2-0 victories. That will include Korat who were scheduled to travel to Ubon on the penultimate matchday of the season. As you originally suggested DF, Ubon have been removed from the league table and all points and goals subtracted from every team accordingly. Mathematically, that leaves Korat in a slightly weaker position. We were two points ahead of Loei having played the same amount of games. Now we're three ahead but we have one less game to play than Loei as we were due to go to Ubon on the penultimate matchday of the season. |
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« Reply #263 on: August 25, 2009, 01:28:13 AM » |
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Chaiyaphum Utd vs Nakhon Ratchasima: 2-0
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« Reply #264 on: August 25, 2009, 10:57:44 AM » |
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We've got serious problems in defence; we've had that defeat coming for a long time. First goal: gave the ball away cheaply in midfield, as usual. Attacker then breezes into the area watched by half a dozen Korat players and even if he had chosen not to shoot then he had a team mate completely unmarked at the far post who could have tapped in Second goal: fairly harmless looking ball through the middle bounces between the two centre backs, Chaiyaphum striker latches onto it, centre back Kitti then runs alongside the attacker, too scared to put in a tackle in in the box, 2-0. Soft, soft goals. |
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« Reply #266 on: August 26, 2009, 01:22:20 PM » |
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Can anyone categorically confirm that head-to-head and not goal difference is used to decide who wins the division if the top two finish on the same points?
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« Reply #267 on: August 26, 2009, 01:55:59 PM » |
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If it's any sort of guide, head - to - head was used to determine league places in the TPL last season. However, Chonburi were 1st Leg Champions this time around in spite of the fact that BKKG beat us 3-1 earlier in the year.
For me, it should be goal difference. It's a league competition not a cup competition. Head - to - head makes sense in group games in AFC CL, CL etc but not over the course of a season.
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« Reply #268 on: August 26, 2009, 02:01:18 PM » |
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« Reply #269 on: August 27, 2009, 12:57:54 PM » |
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head to head is being used in all divisions this year.
maybe I'm a bit slow but it just dawned on me that if the Premier League increase the number of teams to 18 next year it means that Div 1 will need to accept all 5 winners of regional leagues to maintain 16 teams.
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« Reply #270 on: August 27, 2009, 01:03:57 PM » |
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« Reply #271 on: August 27, 2009, 01:10:46 PM » |
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« Reply #272 on: August 27, 2009, 01:13:14 PM » |
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head to head is being used in all divisions this year.
maybe I'm a bit slow but it just dawned on me that if the Premier League increase the number of teams to 18 next year it means that Div 1 will need to accept all 5 winners of regional leagues to maintain 16 teams.
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« Reply #273 on: August 27, 2009, 03:21:48 PM » |
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head to head is being used in all divisions this year.
maybe I'm a bit slow but it just dawned on me that if the Premier League increase the number of teams to 18 next year it means that Div 1 will need to accept all 5 winners of regional leagues to maintain 16 teams.
Even if you're being slow Nigb that means you're still being much quicker than the FAT! Or even not. Maybe the FAT needs time to look where Pattaya United will end up. If the maybe end up at 15 or 14 in TPL, FAT maybe could decide that only place 16 needs to be relegated  |
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« Reply #274 on: September 02, 2009, 02:35:36 PM » |
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« Reply #275 on: September 02, 2009, 03:13:53 PM » |
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I think any new club can just apply to join the league. It's in the FAT's interest to get as many teams as possible in the divisions. I expect Nong Khai to join the Northeast Division next year and Tarutao to join the South.
But that still leaves them with the problem of promotion from five Division 2 tables into a single Divsion 1 table. I would solve this problem by having two divisions at the Division 1 level - A and B, just like there was in 2007. That way more teams from Div 2 could be promoted.
It would be nice to see Kanchanaburi province form a team, too. They've got a nice, big redeveloped stadium and TOT's short residence there had people turning up in large numbers.
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« Reply #276 on: September 02, 2009, 05:04:40 PM » |
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I think any new club can just apply to join the league. It's in the FAT's interest to get as many teams as possible in the divisions. I expect Nong Khai to join the Northeast Division next year and Tarutao to join the South.
But that still leaves them with the problem of promotion from five Division 2 tables into a single Divsion 1 table. I would solve this problem by having two divisions at the Division 1 level - A and B, just like there was in 2007. That way more teams from Div 2 could be promoted.
It would be nice to see Kanchanaburi province form a team, too. They've got a nice, big redeveloped stadium and TOT's short residence there had people turning up in large numbers.
Yes, might be an Idea. but in this case you may promote both champs and let the 2nd placed teams play a match for the 3rd spot in the TPL. regarding TOT, than they should go back and rename to FC TOT Kanchanburi, like Osotspa was doing. |
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« Reply #277 on: September 02, 2009, 06:46:23 PM » |
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« Reply #278 on: September 06, 2009, 09:47:41 AM » |
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FAT have finally caught up, looks like they are awarding 2-0 victories after all.
Well, the FA have updated the site for this weekend's results (we were due to play Ubon) but haven't added three points onto our total. So the table on the FAT site has neither removed Ubon and all statistics related to them, nor added on points for those that were due to play them. They have to do one or the other. Can someone, anyone, please confirm what the FAT are going to do because at the moment they've done nothing. I'm starting to get concerned that they are actually going to allow Loei to play one more game than us this season!! |
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« Reply #279 on: September 06, 2009, 11:00:55 AM » |
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FAT have finally caught up, looks like they are awarding 2-0 victories after all.
Well, the FA have updated the site for this weekend's results (we were due to play Ubon) but haven't added three points onto our total. So the table on the FAT site has neither removed Ubon and all statistics related to them, nor added on points for those that were due to play them. They have to do one or the other. Can someone, anyone, please confirm what the FAT are going to do because at the moment they've done nothing. I'm starting to get concerned that they are actually going to allow Loei to play one more game than us this season!! Surely the FA Cup is your main priority this season. Don't worry about such trivialities. I'm certain that they know what they're doing. |
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« Reply #280 on: September 06, 2009, 11:12:05 AM » |
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Just getting a bit edgy. Ubon no longer exist, so why have they and all record of them not been completely removed from the division? The answer, apparently, is because they (the FAT) were going to award 2-0 victories to all those that were due to play Ubon since they withdrew, but they haven't done that either...
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« Reply #281 on: September 07, 2009, 02:35:19 AM » |
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« Reply #282 on: September 07, 2009, 08:52:17 AM » |
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« Reply #283 on: September 07, 2009, 12:40:02 PM » |
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It's just irritating. Siam Geela, coreballthai and the official Korat website show the division with Ubon and all points and goals related to them removed. FAT site shows us as still having two games to play when we only have one.
On an unrelated matter...We've often talked about strange/inconvenient kick-off times in Thai football. Well given the significance of the match you'll have to go along way to beat this. Our title decider against Nakhon Phanom next week, the biggest match of the season, possibly the most important match in our history, has been moved back an hour from 17:00 to 16:00. Only an hour but all the promotion - on giant posters around the city; in match programmes; on fixture lists; announced from loudspeakers on the back of pick-up trucks; announced during the Pattaya match - said the kick-off was 17:00. The biggest match in our history and they change the kick-off time with less than a week to promote the new one.
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« Reply #284 on: September 10, 2009, 03:11:56 PM » |
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« Reply #285 on: September 10, 2009, 03:41:23 PM » |
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« Reply #286 on: September 10, 2009, 03:55:20 PM » |
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Loads of old photos of Thai football here from one of the Kingdom's most historic clubs. Interesting to see the photo of Man U at Supachalasai in 1986... http://football.rajpracha.com/history/Thanks Vinnie for bringing this up in mind again. I knewd that already. And this is a good example how a club can describe his history ont their own website. Unfortunately the informations are not availabe in English. Thank, Vinnie. www.clubwebsite.co.uk/chonburifc will be featuring lots about the formation and history of our club over the next few weeks. Marco's Thai Port site and Vinnie's Korat site will also have access to some historical stuff soon. "To acknowledge the past is the best way of meeting the future." |
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« Reply #288 on: September 11, 2009, 10:42:50 AM » |
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« Reply #289 on: September 11, 2009, 10:45:28 AM » |
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« Reply #290 on: September 12, 2009, 11:12:39 AM » |
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« Reply #291 on: September 12, 2009, 06:20:03 PM » |
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looks like Nakhon Ratchasima drew 1-1 with Nakhon Panom
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« Reply #292 on: September 12, 2009, 07:33:11 PM » |
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« Reply #293 on: September 12, 2009, 08:20:16 PM » |
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« Reply #294 on: September 14, 2009, 12:33:20 AM » |
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Got back a while ago from Singburi v Ayutthaya. I arrived a couple of minutes into the match to catch the goal for Ayutthaya at about 4 minutes. They held the lead and looked comfortable, (but not really dominating) up until about the 60th minute when Singburi drew level. After that Ayutthaya attacked but weren't really able to take control. The ref gave us about 10 mins extra time, but the goal didn't come. The police had to come out to escort some officials and a ball boy off the pitch. A bitter feeling, but thats football. Thai Football interest in Ayutthaya is healthy and we can look forward to next season.
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druryfire
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« Reply #295 on: September 14, 2009, 02:37:52 AM » |
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What an exciting end to the regional leagues regular season.
I'm happy to see Smaut Prakarn take the central east championship, although only formed in 2004, they have been around for ages compared to the new breed of teams that have entered this year.
Unlucky for Korat, it seems their downfall were them 7 draws. Seems Nakhon Phanom could be your bogey team.
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« Reply #296 on: September 14, 2009, 06:49:41 AM » |
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Got back a while ago from Singburi v Ayutthaya. I arrived a couple of minutes into the match to catch the goal for Ayutthaya at about 4 minutes. They held the lead and looked comfortable, (but not really dominating) up until about the 60th minute when Singburi drew level. After that Ayutthaya attacked but weren't really able to take control. The ref gave us about 10 mins extra time, but the goal didn't come. The police had to come out to escort some officials and a ball boy off the pitch. A bitter feeling, but thats football. Thai Football interest in Ayutthaya is healthy and we can look forward to next season.
...and well done Samut Prakhan, I hope they make it to Div 1 next season. I think I might have seen some of this match on TV?! Were one of the teams in blue shirts, and the other in red and white hooped shirts? |
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SriRachaShark
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« Reply #297 on: September 14, 2009, 08:45:17 AM » |
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There's always next year And you're still in the FA Cup |
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« Reply #298 on: September 14, 2009, 08:46:25 AM » |
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Got back a while ago from Singburi v Ayutthaya. I arrived a couple of minutes into the match to catch the goal for Ayutthaya at about 4 minutes. They held the lead and looked comfortable, (but not really dominating) up until about the 60th minute when Singburi drew level. After that Ayutthaya attacked but weren't really able to take control. The ref gave us about 10 mins extra time, but the goal didn't come. The police had to come out to escort some officials and a ball boy off the pitch. A bitter feeling, but thats football. Thai Football interest in Ayutthaya is healthy and we can look forward to next season.
...and well done Samut Prakhan, I hope they make it to Div 1 next season. I think I might have seen some of this match on TV?! Were one of the teams in blue shirts, and the other in red and white hooped shirts? That was the one. |
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« Reply #299 on: September 14, 2009, 11:04:17 AM » |
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Got back a while ago from Singburi v Ayutthaya. I arrived a couple of minutes into the match to catch the goal for Ayutthaya at about 4 minutes. They held the lead and looked comfortable, (but not really dominating) up until about the 60th minute when Singburi drew level. After that Ayutthaya attacked but weren't really able to take control. The ref gave us about 10 mins extra time, but the goal didn't come. The police had to come out to escort some officials and a ball boy off the pitch. A bitter feeling, but thats football. Thai Football interest in Ayutthaya is healthy and we can look forward to next season.
...and well done Samut Prakhan, I hope they make it to Div 1 next season.
Happy to report there was no bitterness like that at the Korat game - just a lot of tears! |
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