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« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2008, 05:59:22 PM » |
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Maybe a kind of crowning the 2nd Div overall Champ. Or any kind of a Khor Cup maybe.
@ Dru, are you missing some results from the Div 2? Cause your crosstable in the wiki is missing some.
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« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2008, 07:27:33 PM » |
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Maybe a kind of crowning the 2nd Div overall Champ. Or any kind of a Khor Cup maybe.
@ Dru, are you missing some results from the Div 2? Cause your crosstable in the wiki is missing some.
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« Reply #53 on: September 22, 2008, 10:15:43 AM » |
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If you need any Div 2A results I've got them all written down.
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« Reply #54 on: September 22, 2008, 04:41:46 PM » |
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« Reply #55 on: September 22, 2008, 05:23:55 PM » |
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Do you know the results of this weekend Vinnie?
I'm not Vinnie but................ Prachinburi 1 Army Welfare 2 Songkhla 3 Sisaket 0 2nd leg next week. |
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« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2008, 01:54:29 AM » |
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Right results i'm after to update Wiki, if anyone can help:
Group A:
Raj Pracha - Songkhla
Ratchaburi - Songkhla
Group B:
Bangkok Bravo - Thonburi College
Kasem Bundit - Marine College
Kasem Bundit - Thonburi College
Lopburi - Army Welfair Department
Navy Fleet Support - Thonburi College
Thonburi College - Bangkok Christian College
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« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2008, 09:21:40 AM » |
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2nd Leg Results Army Welfare 1 Prachinburi 2 Agg 3-3 (Prachinburi win 4-3 on penalties) Sisaket 3 Songkhla 2 Agg 3-5 Do you know the results of this weekend Vinnie?
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« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2008, 09:28:47 AM » |
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Any ideas when these matches were played, DF? Right results i'm after to update Wiki, if anyone can help:
Group A:
Raj Pracha - Songkhla
Ratchaburi - Songkhla
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Bangkok Bravo - Thonburi College
Kasem Bundit - Marine College
Kasem Bundit - Thonburi College
Lopburi - Army Welfair Department
Navy Fleet Support - Thonburi College
Thonburi College - Bangkok Christian College
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« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2008, 11:09:48 AM » |
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Rajpracha 2-1 Songkhla
Ratchaburi 0-1 Songkhla
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« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2008, 02:37:00 PM » |
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Anyone know any firm plans for the league next season?
From what i've been told from Magazone on here, the plans could be to merge Division 2 with the Pro League
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« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2008, 02:38:46 PM » |
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Any ideas when these matches were played, DF? Right results i'm after to update Wiki, if anyone can help:
Group A:
Raj Pracha - Songkhla
Ratchaburi - Songkhla
Group B:
Bangkok Bravo - Thonburi College
Kasem Bundit - Marine College
Kasem Bundit - Thonburi College
Lopburi - Army Welfair Department
Navy Fleet Support - Thonburi College
Thonburi College - Bangkok Christian College
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« Reply #62 on: October 09, 2008, 02:27:09 PM » |
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Anyone know any firm plans for the league next season?
From what i've been told from Magazone on here, the plans could be to merge Division 2 with the Pro League
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« Reply #63 on: October 09, 2008, 02:31:16 PM » |
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Anyone know any firm plans for the league next season?
From what i've been told from Magazone on here, the plans could be to merge Division 2 with the Pro League
Ad, I could crap an Issue of the Football Siam Weekly Mag. In there is an outlook of the 2009 Season. With pyramid and very detailed. I will make a scan and post it here. But it will be in Thai. I remember trying to look at that after we'd had a few beers on Saturday night  |
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« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2008, 04:32:48 PM » |
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Really? For Division 2? I was told by someone at Korat F.C last week, and I quote, "many things are not good at the moment. Don't expect to hear anything before January." Anyone know any firm plans for the league next season?
From what i've been told from Magazone on here, the plans could be to merge Division 2 with the Pro League
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« Reply #65 on: October 09, 2008, 05:27:59 PM » |
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Well, whatever happens, it is all rather untidy as usual.
I first heard that a 3rd Division would be created, which would basically split the current 2 Groups in Division 2 into 2 seperate leagues, which made sense and kept the best with the best and the worse perfomers all with each other and promoted sides form Pro League into the 3rd Division which would give them a step onto the FAT Ladder (out of non-league so to speak).
Now i hear that Division 2 will be combined with Pro League, which to me, says that a hell of a lot of clubs will be playing in Division 2, we would have something like 22 Division 2 clubs already and god knows how many Pro League clubs, which i might add is filled with reserve teams of some clubs anyway!
All FAT need to do is level out a playing field for Division 2, remove two groups which doesn't really show who is the best as both groups can be equally different.
So, have a ladder of Premier League, Division 1, Division 2, Division 3 and then regional, makes sense to me!
It amazes me how some clubs get such good backing, Khon Kaen for one, when they don't even know whats happening from year to year. The fans are being penalised for an incompetent FAT. About time we had someone as head of FAT! I'm sure they won't allow me being English but i find any Thai (my wife possibly) to sit their looking pretty and let us lot dictate from behind the scenes!
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« Reply #66 on: October 09, 2008, 05:44:15 PM » |
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Ad, actually when I had a look at this report at FSW, it looks to me that everything is fixed for the new season. In total there are should be 3 pages in the mag about what happen next year. Anyway, this is the first one with the pyramid. Later maybe I will or can pst the others which reporting in Thai. http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fswmi8.jpgJust click on the link for the scanned big image. |
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« Reply #67 on: October 09, 2008, 06:10:28 PM » |
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Are you the man to talk to for creating the images again for Wiki 2009 season??
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« Reply #68 on: October 10, 2008, 12:14:28 AM » |
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Sven,
Are you the man to talk to for creating the images again for Wiki 2009 season??
Thanks
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« Reply #69 on: November 03, 2008, 12:12:37 PM » |
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The latest news I have for next season is that Korat will be in 'Division 2 North-East'. That's literally as much as I know. The name of the division would suggest that Div 2 is going to become more regionalised which is excellent news and opens up the possibility for me to get a few away games under my belt!
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« Reply #70 on: November 04, 2008, 12:48:07 AM » |
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Hi Vinnie. Do you know why Nigerian Osika Ojarimoni quit in Korat after only doing a couple of Games?
I guess when he still Played in TOT FC, he has very Big Problem with Work Permit and Visa.
Something like this again?
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« Reply #71 on: November 04, 2008, 01:01:21 PM » |
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Hi Chris. I don't know what the problem was with Osika. I guess it was a paperwork issue. It was a shame as he was a very good player for a division 2 side.
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« Reply #72 on: November 04, 2008, 03:18:00 PM » |
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The latest news I have for next season is that Korat will be in 'Division 2 North-East'. That's literally as much as I know. The name of the division would suggest that Div 2 is going to become more regionalised which is excellent news and opens up the possibility for me to get a few away games under my belt!
How long have we been advocating such a move!! It makes a lot of sense. Please keep us updated, Vinnie. However, with all the new AFC requirements being enforced, Korat miay find themselves fast-tracked into the TPL as one of only 3 clubs who meet the criteria for a suitable stadium |
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« Reply #73 on: November 04, 2008, 05:16:11 PM » |
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« Reply #74 on: December 16, 2008, 05:36:11 PM » |
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I still haven't heard anything concrete about next season's set-up. My contact at the club is still saying "no news yet". Does anyone have any new information?
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« Reply #75 on: December 22, 2008, 06:13:14 PM » |
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Division 2 to be in four zones next season: North, South, Central and North-East (Issan). Details trickling through. More tomorrow.
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« Reply #76 on: December 23, 2008, 01:17:14 PM » |
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Division 2 North-East 2009 line up: 1. Sakhon Nakhon 2. Ubon Ratchathani 3. Mukdahan 4. Chaiyaphum 5. Loei 6. Nongkhai 7. Mahasarakham 8. Udon Thani 9. Surin 10. Buriram 11. Nongbualamphu 12. Yasothan 13. Amnatcharoen 14. Nakhon Ratchasima A dream come true!!  I want to kiss the person whose idea this was!! Local derbies against Buriram, Surin and Chaiyaphum, too. Season starts in March, can't wait!! |
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« Reply #77 on: December 23, 2008, 04:27:15 PM » |
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"A dream come true!! I want to kiss the person whose idea this was!! Local derbies against Buriram, Surin and Chaiyaphum, too. Season starts in March, can't wait!! " They probably got the idea after reading this board. We've been advocating this for ages!! Now what else shall we propose? Vinnie, do you have the details for the other regions? Thanks. |
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« Reply #78 on: December 23, 2008, 05:26:04 PM » |
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I don't, no. Neither do I have details on promotion/relegation but if four are still being relegated from div 1, then it looks like it will just be the champions from each division going up. "Now what else shall we propose?" Two division 1's: A & B. That way you could have two promoted from each Div 2 zone. And if you relegate four from the Prem, then you can still have two each going up from Div 1 A & B. Watch this space... |
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« Reply #79 on: December 23, 2008, 07:46:01 PM » |
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Division 2 North-East 2009 line up: 1. Sakhon Nakhon 2. Ubon Ratchathani 3. Mukdahan 4. Chaiyaphum 5. Loei 6. Nongkhai 7. Mahasarakham 8. Udon Thani 9. Surin 10. Buriram 11. Nongbualamphu 12. Yasothan 13. Amnatcharoen 14. Nakhon Ratchasima A dream come true!! I want to kiss the person whose idea this was!! Local derbies against Buriram, Surin and Chaiyaphum, too. Season starts in March, can't wait!! Wow, sounds nice and pretty tough. If I do look at the clubs you mentioned and the number of teams over all in Div2, it looks to me that the Pro League now is definately defunct. Edit: And as Sakhon Nakhon will be in the Div 2 as well, it could mean that there will be not any relegated team!!! As we know that Sakhon Nakhon nromaly had been relagted!! So Chiang Mai and Cha Choeng Sao for example should stay in the league. Maybe as well as BKK Bravo :-) but I have heard something about BKK United is it true? |
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« Reply #80 on: December 24, 2008, 04:26:49 AM » |
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OK thank you for the news. Do you know the team for the others regions (North, Central and South) ?
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« Reply #81 on: December 24, 2008, 12:22:09 PM » |
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In reply to lokomotive, I would guess that Chiang Mai will be in the North division and Chachoengsao will be in the central along with BKK Bravo.
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« Reply #83 on: December 24, 2008, 05:26:07 PM » |
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In reply to lokomotive, I would guess that Chiang Mai will be in the North division and Chachoengsao will be in the central along with BKK Bravo.
Yes I think so. And according to the clubs you provided I just draw my idea about where the borders might be between the groups. So everything above Chai Nat and Lopburi might belong to North and Phetchaburi might mark the border to the south, means anything else in the middle belonging to Central. At least this would makes sense to me. Unfortunately for the board you link you given, Vinnie, my Browser is not showing the Thai types. No idea why. |
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« Reply #84 on: December 25, 2008, 03:35:43 PM » |
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Teams translated
1. จังหวัดอุดรธานี มีสโมสรฟุตบอลอาชีพอุดรธานี รับส่งทีมเข้าแข่งขัน
Udon Thani
2. จังหวัดอุบลราชธานี มีชมรมฟุตบอล เขืองใน เป็นผู้รับผิดชอบส่งทีมเข้าแข่งขัน
Ubon Rachathani
3. จังหวัดสุรินทร์ เป็นหน่วยงานของเทศบาลสุรินทร์ รับส่งทีม
Surin
4. จังหวัดบุรีรัมย์ เป็น มหาวิทยาลัยราชภัฎบุรีรัมย์ รับส่งทีม
Buriram (Rachapat university Buriram)
5. จังหวัดนครราชสีมา เป็นโรงเรียนกีฬาเทศบาลนครราชสีมารับทำทีม
Nakhon Ratchasima (sports school Nakhon Rachisima)
6. จังหวัดร้อยเอ็ด เป็นหน่วยงาน อบจ. ร้อยเอ้ด รับทำทีม
Roi Et
7. จังหวัดมหาสารคาม เป้นหน่วยงาน กกท. มหาสารคาม
Maha Sarakam
8. จังหวัดเลย เป็นหน่วยงาน เทศบาลเมืองเลย รับทำทีม
Loei
9. จังหวัดหนองคาย เป็นหน่วยงานโรงเรียนกีฬาจังหวัดหนองคาย รับทำทีม
Nongkhai
10 จังหวัดสกลนคร เป็นหน่วยงาน เทศบาลเมืองสกลนคร รับทำทีม
Sakon Nakhon
11. จังหวัดมุกดาหาร เป็นหน่วยงาน กกท. มุกดาหาร รับทำทีม
Mukdahan
12. จังหวัดนครพนม เป็นหน่วยงาน กกท. นครพนม รับทำทีม ซึ่งจังหวัดนครพนมมีปัญหาในเรื่องสนามกีฬากลางเนื่องจากอยู่ในสภาพทรุดโทรมมาก ส่วนสนามอื่นๆ ก็เป็นสนามเปิด ไม่สามารถเก็บค่าผ่านประตุได้ คณะกรรมการจึงทำเรื่องไปให้ สมาคมฟุตบอลพิจารณา
Nakhon Phanom (problem with stadium)
I don't think this is the final list, just the teams that have applied and passed the standard so far.
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« Reply #85 on: December 28, 2008, 06:05:51 PM » |
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« Reply #86 on: December 28, 2008, 09:54:11 PM » |
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Whats happened to Si Saket and Chanthaburi in these lists?
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« Reply #87 on: December 29, 2008, 06:58:04 PM » |
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From what I can understand of this article there was a meeting in Udon to make preparations for the new Isaan Division 2 league. The above teams are the ones that attended and applied to join the league. Five teams (Garasin, Chayapoom, Yasothorn, Nongbualampoo, Amnajalern) did not attend, it is unclear if they will apply to join the league.
Other info in there is that the league intends to follow (higher) AFC standards, matches will start at either 5 or 6pm, tickets will not be more then 50 baht, they are expecting Pitya Santawong to help prepare the teams, Udon Thani will be the leagues headquaters.
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« Reply #88 on: January 05, 2009, 04:13:12 PM » |
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« Reply #89 on: January 29, 2009, 11:03:12 PM » |
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I recently read that division 2 south will be made up of 5 teams... Pattani, Songkhla, Narithawat, Yala, Satun and will be a 16-19 year olds league
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I recently read that division 2 south will be made up of 5 teams... Pattani, Songkhla, Narithawat, Yala, Satun and will be a 16-19 year olds league
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Ok, the final Issan division list is: 1. Nakhon Ratchasima 2. Chaiyaphum 3. Loei 4. Udon Thani 5. Nong Khai 6. Nakhon Phanom 7. Sakhon Nakhon 8. Surin 9. Buriram 10 Ubon Ratchathani 11. Mukdahan 12. Roiet I say 'final' list but, of course, it is still subject to change! TIT |
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Although i don't know monkeys about any team in your league Vinnie, i'm quite positive that it should be an exciting season, just think them long trips to Songkhla and Narathiwat are all a distant past now!
FAT starting to move in the correct direction, maybe thats because of elections this year for a President??
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« Reply #93 on: February 02, 2009, 06:17:15 PM » |
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I don't know about the other leagues. I'm just keeping an eye on the Div 2 website for news.
Yes, the long trips are over. I'm already looking forward to away days at Surin, Buriram and Chaiyaphum!
Elections could be the reason for the changes in the league structure. I think there are two other reasons. The first is the blunt criticism delivered by the AFC last year when they criticised the state of the Thai league and stripped Thailand of an automatic Champions league place. That action by the AFC blew a lot of complacency away and I'm glad they did it.
I also think that, indirectly, Chonburi are a factor. It has been their rise over the past few seasons that has really breathed new life into the Premier League and has shown that club sides representing a place rather than a business or government institution are the best way to gain supporters and therefore generate interest and therefore generate money. Look at the way that PEA are currently trying to shed that name and establish themselves as a side which represents Ayuttaya. We've been saying it for years on here and other forums that provincial sides are the way forward and it's finally happening.
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Just read some news- Mukdohan is going to use a stadium in Suvanaket, Laos.
The program for next season will be released on 11th of Feb, first round will be on 15th of March.
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« Reply #96 on: February 05, 2009, 02:53:24 PM » |
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Just read some news- Mukdohan is going to use a stadium in Suvanaket, Laos.
The program for next season will be released on 11th of Feb, first round will be on 15th of March.
Any news from Northern or Central zones?
So what can we infer from that? I guess Mukdahan didn't have a stadium that complied with regulations but solved the problem with a bit of cross border cooperation. The Second Thai Friendship Bridge connects Muang Mukdahan with Suvanaket so teams won't have a problem getting there. Interesting stuff. |
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Vinnie
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« Reply #97 on: February 11, 2009, 01:39:10 PM » |
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Just read some news- Mukdohan is going to use a stadium in Suvanaket, Laos.
The program for next season will be released on 11th of Feb, first round will be on 15th of March.
Any news from Northern or Central zones?
Anyone found the fixtures yet? I'm monitoring Thailandsusu. The Division 2 website seems to be moribund. |
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« Reply #99 on: February 11, 2009, 06:53:32 PM » |
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Wow, the badge from roi et is really amazing. Just looks great.
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