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« Reply #1051 on: January 07, 2011, 02:12:08 PM » |
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My mistake, they've won one and drawn one. They beat Govt Savings Bank 3-1 and drew 1-1 with Army Welfare Dept. Loving those teams, it's like old school TPL and Div 1. We just need Marine College and Royal Household Bureau F.C to enter the fray!
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« Reply #1052 on: January 07, 2011, 05:57:55 PM » |
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My mistake, they've won one and drawn one. They beat Govt Savings Bank 3-1 and drew 1-1 with Army Welfare Dept. Loving those teams, it's like old school TPL and Div 1. We just need Marine College and Royal Household Bureau F.C to enter the fray!
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« Reply #1053 on: January 08, 2011, 08:19:48 PM » |
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Supanburi 2 - 1 Saraburi
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« Reply #1054 on: January 08, 2011, 08:28:12 PM » |
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« Reply #1055 on: January 08, 2011, 09:02:39 PM » |
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« Reply #1056 on: January 08, 2011, 09:25:35 PM » |
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« Reply #1057 on: January 08, 2011, 10:16:07 PM » |
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« Reply #1058 on: January 09, 2011, 11:43:19 PM » |
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My mistake, they've won one and drawn one. They beat Govt Savings Bank 3-1 and drew 1-1 with Army Welfare Dept. Loving those teams, it's like old school TPL and Div 1. We just need Marine College and Royal Household Bureau F.C to enter the fray!
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« Reply #1059 on: January 10, 2011, 12:23:46 AM » |
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I can't really see any other Southern team wanting to get promoted in the future bar Surat Thani, everyone else i think would be happy to win the Southern league but fall in the playoffs on purpose, is this what Trang did maybe?
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« Reply #1060 on: January 10, 2011, 12:32:26 AM » |
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Just wondering, does anyone know if Prachuap Khiri Khan are making a come back this year?
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« Reply #1061 on: January 10, 2011, 01:22:21 AM » |
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Dru, I posted a list of the teams being assessed (post #1046)
Prachuap have entered in Central & Eastern, and other new teams are:
North: Lampun Warrior, Nan FC
North-East: Amnat Charoen FC
Bangkok, etc: GongReuaYuttakgarn, Mapthaput Rayong, plus the champion and runners-up from the Khor Royal Cup Also a couple of name changes: Paknampo NSRUSC (formerly Rajabhat Nakon Sawan), & Thanyaburi Utd (formerly Rose-Asia Utd)
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« Reply #1062 on: January 10, 2011, 01:23:12 AM » |
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Will update this as I go, but it seems 79 teams have entered the 2011 RL, pending inspections/judgements up to Jan 17th, with a final announcemnt will be made in Hat Yai on the 21st North (16 Teams): Phichit FC, Singburi FC, Prae Utd, Nakhon Sawan FC, Pitsanulok FC, Petchabun FC, Sukothai FC, Utaradit Modseng, Chiang Rai FC, Kamphaeng Phet FC, Lampang FC, Tak FC, Utai Thani Forest, Payao FC, Lampun Warrior (new), Nan FC (new)I think Tak FC have to make some ground improvements before the 17th North-East (16 Teams): Loei City, Yasothon Utd, Nakon Rachasima FC, Roi Et FC, Chayaphum Utd, Udonthani FC, Sakon Nakon FC, Mahasarakham City, Nongbualampu FC, Kalasin FC, Nong Khai FC, Surin FC, Ubon Tigers FC, Mukdahan City, Nakon Phanom FC, Amnat Charoen FC (new)Central and East (18 teams): Ranong FC, Lopburi FC, Meuang Kan FC, Rachaburi FC, Samut Prakan FC, samut Sakon FC, Ayuthaya FC, Petchaburi FC, Pathum Thani FC, Prajinburi Utd, Chachoengsao FC, Ang Thong FC, Nakon Nayok FC, Kabinburi FC, Sra Kaew Utd, Supanburi FC, Prajinburi FC, Prajuapkirikan FC (new)Sra Kaew have been inspected and their ground has failed, but I'm not sure whether they've still got time to put it right. Bangkok, etc (18 teams): Bangkok FC, Rangsit University JW FC, Nontaburi FC, Rachawiti FC, North-Bangkok, Bangkok Christian, Samut Prakan Utd, Kasembundit Uni, Thai Airways-Luk Isan, Paknampo NSRUSC (formerly Rajabhat Nakon Sawan), Kasetsart Uni, Thanyaburi Utd (formerly Rose-Asia Utd), GongReuaYuttakgarn(new), Mapthaput Rayong(new), RBAC FC, plus the champion and runners-up from the Khor Royal Cup. It appears North-Central have effectively been relegated. South (13 teams): Trang FC, Chumpon FC, Ranong FC, Surat Thani FC, Nakon Sri Tammarat FC, Krabi FC, Satun Utd, Pattani FC, Pang-nga FC, Yala FC, Pattalung FC, Hat Yai FC, Naratiwat FC It seems Satun and Yala have some work to do. By my count that's actually 81 teams, but there a few that are still involoved in the Div 1/RL playoffs. Also, I think the Bangkok, and Central will only have a maximum of 17 teams. Sorry, not noticed this list before, sometimes like you say are still playing in the playoffs so the lists will be amended. As for North-Bangkok, they were only admitted last year into the league system, so I assume they have a 1 year propbation period to sort themselves out, the ground from pictures i've seen seem fine, or at leat better playing facilities than some clubs seem to have. Satun, been members for a long while now, not sure what the stadium is like, the same for Yala, but i would have thought playing standards aren't too much of an issue at this level, i would have said, let them play and if they want to progress then they need to progress off the field first. Seeing this list has answered my question to Prachaup Khiri Khan going back into the Central-East League, as for the pther new entrants, boy, they're some tough names to get hold of there! An interesting name for the Bangkok league Mapthaput Rayong, whats this about, surely they are central-east? |
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« Reply #1063 on: January 10, 2011, 01:24:27 AM » |
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Dru, I posted a list of the teams being assessed (post #1046)
Prachuap have entered in Central & Eastern, and other new teams are:
North: Lampun Warrior, Nan FC
North-East: Amnat Charoen FC
Bangkok, etc: GongReuaYuttakgarn, Mapthaput Rayong, plus the champion and runners-up from the Khor Royal Cup Also a couple of name changes: Paknampo NSRUSC (formerly Rajabhat Nakon Sawan), & Thanyaburi Utd (formerly Rose-Asia Utd)
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« Reply #1064 on: January 13, 2011, 11:46:21 PM » |
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It's a rather fishy scoreline. I've long suspected Naratiwat don't want to play in D1.
I saw the goals on the tele a couple of days ago. Narathiwat's usual home ground was flooded so they moved it to another pitch on the day of the game. There was literally 50 people there. The Narathiwat players may as well have just turned around and repeatedly kicked the ball into their own net. Just appalling and odd and wrong. |
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« Reply #1065 on: January 14, 2011, 08:36:07 AM » |
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A Phuket player had a heart attack on the pitch!! Saw the footage this morning, it was an African player. I think he's going to be ok.
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« Reply #1066 on: January 15, 2011, 12:14:45 PM » |
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According to info available in cyberspace, Division 2 is described as a semi-pro league. In my playing days which was eons ago, it meant you are working for the agencies who owned the clubs and you would receive extra pay for playing football form of per diem. What do semi-pro players do on the other 'semi', holding real jobs while striving to be a real pro? :-)
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« Reply #1067 on: January 15, 2011, 09:40:42 PM » |
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RBAC 2 - 1 Rayong
Naratiwat 1 - 7 Bangkok FC
Supanburi 2 - 1 Saraburi
I think it's safe to assume Bangkok FC will be playing in D1 next year. Looking good for Rangsit too, the other 2 places are still are for grabs.
Today`s results: Rangsit - Prachinburi 0:0 Rayong FC - RBAC 1:2 Saraburi - Suphanburi 1:1 Bangkok FC - Narathiwat 4:1 Personally, I'm disappointed. I would rather have seen Rayong and Saraburi go up than Bangkok and Rangsit Uni', but there we are. The 2010 season has officially finished! Also, a rumour going round that the start of the Div 2 season will be pushed back. Don't know if anyone has heard anything more concrete? |
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« Reply #1068 on: January 15, 2011, 09:41:14 PM » |
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Rangsit - Prachinburi 0:0
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« Reply #1069 on: January 15, 2011, 09:58:48 PM » |
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Today`s results:
Rangsit - Prachinburi 0:0
Rayong FC - RBAC 1:2
Saraburi - Suphanburi 1:1
Bangkok FC - Narathiwat 4:1
I think all 4 will face a relegation battle this season. Maybe not Suphanburi as they have some experience of D1 under their belt. Let's be honest though, this whole D1 promotion/relegation thing has been a cluster f**k of epic proportions. These teams now have less than a month to prepare for next season with the knowledge of what league they'll be in. TFA, make a plan at the start of the season, stick to it. You'd think all these people with Ph.D.'s could manage that. Grumbling aside, there's good news for Eka as the toughest competition has been removed from the BKK and Vicinity league. |
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« Reply #1070 on: January 16, 2011, 04:41:36 AM » |
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Suphanburi got the Nakhon Pathom coach and a few players from there. So I don't think they will be in releagtion struggle. They more I expect Air Force and Songkla in it.
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« Reply #1071 on: January 16, 2011, 05:08:19 AM » |
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« Reply #1072 on: January 16, 2011, 04:09:12 PM » |
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Suphanburi got the Nakhon Pathom coach and a few players from there. So I don't think they will be in releagtion struggle. They more I expect Air Force and Songkla in it.
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« Reply #1073 on: January 16, 2011, 09:31:39 PM » |
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One for my old Wiki buddy Dru. Fleet is back on the picture and ready to enter the RL 2011!
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« Reply #1074 on: January 16, 2011, 11:30:47 PM » |
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One for my old Wiki buddy Dru. Fleet is back on the picture and ready to enter the RL 2011!
The ship sunk when RL started, and now they are coming back! Are they are feeder club for the Navy? Will they be sticking to the Navy Fleet Support name or maybe Fleet United? Glad to see they are coming back, but where the hell have they been? |
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« Reply #1075 on: January 16, 2011, 11:59:21 PM » |
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I was only briefly informed by my co-mate about this. No further detials yet. But I guess they were playng in some of the Khor Cup's. Like Welfare, and maybe Marine and Airforce training college too.
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« Reply #1077 on: January 17, 2011, 02:18:05 AM » |
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« Reply #1078 on: January 17, 2011, 02:26:09 AM » |
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The Navy Fleet website also shows Rangsit Uni in the Bangkok League, so I guess they are running two clubs next year? Isn't this just getting slightly ridiculous?
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« Reply #1079 on: January 17, 2011, 04:04:16 AM » |
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The Navy Fleet website also shows Rangsit Uni in the Bangkok League, so I guess they are running two clubs next year? Isn't this just getting slightly ridiculous?
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« Reply #1080 on: January 17, 2011, 04:26:29 AM » |
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The Navy Fleet website also shows Rangsit Uni in the Bangkok League, so I guess they are running two clubs next year? Isn't this just getting slightly ridiculous?
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« Reply #1081 on: January 17, 2011, 07:34:22 PM » |
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Possible new format for Div 2 play-offs (first post, red writing). Can someone help me out? I'm struggling to make too much out of it. Even some of the Thai respondents say they are confused by it!  http://webboard.koratfc.net/index.php?topic=8014.0 |
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« Reply #1082 on: January 17, 2011, 07:52:34 PM » |
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4 groups instead of 2; Champions of each zone (except Bangkok) would seeded into each of these.
Bangkok champs would be drawn out along with all 5 regional runners-up, and 2 best 3rd placed teams (total 12 playoff teams). This way, teams will avoid playing others from their own region.
The 3 teams in each group play each other home and away. 4 group winners then progress to semi-finals, final and 3rd/4th playoff.
The only thing he doesn't mention is how many sides get promoted.
I'm not sure why Bangkok Champs miss out on a 'seeded' spot. Perhaps it's just himgiving an example, and what he means is 4 Regional Champs are drawn first into each group, and the unlucky 5th gets thrown in another pot with everyone else.
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« Reply #1083 on: January 17, 2011, 10:10:48 PM » |
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4 groups instead of 2; Champions of each zone (except Bangkok) would seeded into each of these.
Bangkok champs would be drawn out along with all 5 regional runners-up, and 2 best 3rd placed teams (total 12 playoff teams). This way, teams will avoid playing others from their own region.
The 3 teams in each group play each other home and away. 4 group winners then progress to semi-finals, final and 3rd/4th playoff.
Then only thing he doesn't mention is how many sides get promoted.
I'm not sure why Bangkok Champs miss out on a 'seeded' spot. Perhaps it's just his example, and what he means is 4 Regional Champs are drawn first into each group, and the unlucky 5th gets thrown in another pot with everyone else.
Thanks, Wolfman. I don't like it (predictably!). It makes the play-offs more of a lottery. At least with the 2010 system the teams that finished in the top two in each group did so on merit because they'd had to play a ten-game mini-league. The play-offs need to be as much like a league as possible so as to ensure teams go up on merit as far as is possible. |
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« Reply #1084 on: January 19, 2011, 02:57:02 PM » |
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Looks like we are having a third playoff for the 18th place in div 1. Just seen that Saraburi v Narawithat and Rayong v Prachinburi are listed for 24 of January. It looks like the winners meet on 26th. I'll believe they'll be using the Leo Stadium. It's in Thai so I can't read it fully. http://www.thaipremierleague.co.th/news_detail.php?nid=00220 |
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« Reply #1086 on: January 19, 2011, 04:01:07 PM » |
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Looks like we are having a third playoff for the 18th place in div 1. Just seen that Saraburi v Narawithat and Rayong v Prachinburi are listed for 24 of January. It looks like the winners meet on 26th. I'll believe they'll be using the Leo Stadium. It's in Thai so I can't read it fully. http://www.thaipremierleague.co.th/news_detail.php?nid=00220But what does it mean? Wouldn't it mean that NP is history and they may totally withdraw from league football for all times? |
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BKK73 - you've pretty much covered it. LEO for all 3 matches.
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« Reply #1088 on: January 19, 2011, 04:33:57 PM » |
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BKK73 - you've pretty much covered it. LEO for all 3 matches.
On the plus side, it does say these are the FINAL playoff matches.
loko - Perhaps NP would have to go back to Regional League and play their way back up.
Wow, I didn't see this coming....... In what other league in the world could you have 3 previous failed attempts at promotion in one season (Rayong and Saraburi) and yet still be promoted. Don't ya just love it.. BTW, Wolfie, they did state that NP would re-enter at D1 level after 2 years....... but at seen as they can't even plan 2 days ahead let alone 2 years, I take it with a barrel of salt. |
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4 groups instead of 2; Champions of each zone (except Bangkok) would seeded into each of these.
Bangkok champs would be drawn out along with all 5 regional runners-up, and 2 best 3rd placed teams (total 12 playoff teams). This way, teams will avoid playing others from their own region.
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Then only thing he doesn't mention is how many sides get promoted.
I'm not sure why Bangkok Champs miss out on a 'seeded' spot. Perhaps it's just his example, and what he means is 4 Regional Champs are drawn first into each group, and the unlucky 5th gets thrown in another pot with everyone else.
Thanks, Wolfman. I don't like it (predictably!). It makes the play-offs more of a lottery. At least with the 2010 system the teams that finished in the top two in each group did so on merit because they'd had to play a ten-game mini-league. The play-offs need to be as much like a league as possible so as to ensure teams go up on merit as far as is possible. Agreed. I'd prefer that the teams were all in one pool like 2009, so it doesn't come down to luck of the draw either. Of course, with 12 (or 10) teams, that's far too cumbersome. |
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BTW, Wolfie, they did state that NP would re-enter at D1 level after 2 years....... but at seen as they can't even plan 2 days ahead let alone 2 years, I take it with a barrel of salt. Thanks Bunny. As you can see, I'm getting used to the way the TPL/FAT work. I almost called this 10 days ago |
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An article from TLO is quoting Dr. Vichit. According to him it was the FAT forced the draw and want to see Nakhon Pathom with any of those teams.
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Their full name is 'Maptaphut Navy Rayong'. We're playing them in a friendly today. Has this club been formed in the wake of the Navy Rayong debacle? New forum: http://www.maptaphutmarine.com/webboard/index.php More here: http://www.navyrayong.net/webboard/index.php?topic=10226.0 Training in Chaiyaphum with Chukkiat 'Walk-off' Noosarung. |
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« Reply #1095 on: January 20, 2011, 09:56:32 AM » |
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Interesting development FAO BKK73 Nonthaburi FC Supporters Club emailed me saying the club have switched to Nonthaburi Stadium (Rajpracha's ground). I'm now trying to confirm if this is a) for sure and b) for every game. If so, it's great news for me as it's easier to get to. EDIT: A new twist: It seems Nonthaburi have the go ahead to use the stadium but Rajpracha do not! Very strange and some very unhappy folk at Raj right now. 2nd Edit: As far as I can tell, Raj have been informed that the stadium does not meet D1 standards. they have also lost two key directors and three key players and there seems to be some big political struggle going on involving favourtism to MTU (but not from MTU itself). I believe there are some kind of crisis talks going on and Raj may well move away from the province. If anyone can get more detail, please do: http://rajprachanonthaburi.com/webboard/index.php?topic=1428.msg22664;topicseen#msg22664 |
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« Last Edit: January 20, 2011, 10:23:19 AM by the_englishman »
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BKK73
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« Reply #1096 on: January 20, 2011, 02:13:53 PM » |
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Interesting development FAO BKK73
Nonthaburi FC Supporters Club emailed me saying the club have switched to Nonthaburi Stadium (Rajpracha's ground). I'm now trying to confirm if this is a) for sure and b) for every game.
If so, it's great news for me as it's easier to get to.
Thanks for the update t_e. I've never been to the Nonthaburi Provincial Stadium but I'm always keen to visit new venues. It could be a good move for the Crows to move over the river. There is potentially a large supporter base there. |
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« Reply #1097 on: January 20, 2011, 02:58:45 PM » |
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Nonthaburi are reported to be in negotiations with Rene (!) and a former coach of TTM Pichit.
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Vinnie
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« Reply #1098 on: January 20, 2011, 03:05:52 PM » |
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It always amazes me how many clubs decide they need to go into complete effing meltdown during the close-seasons! This year we've had Thai Port (although they seem to be back on an even keel now), Navy Rayong, TOT and Rajpracha all choosing to descend into chaos, and with the new season right upon them in the case of Navy, TOT and Raj.
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« Reply #1099 on: January 20, 2011, 03:48:25 PM » |
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An interesting name for the Bangkok league Mapthaput Rayong, whats this about, surely they are central-east?
Their full name is 'Maptaphut Navy Rayong'. We're playing them in a friendly today. Has this club been formed in the wake of the Navy Rayong debacle? more or less yes, even though both clubs have nothing in common. Maptaphut seems to be a cooperation between that new club Maptaphut and Marine College. The badge on the left of your pic. Latter played in 3rd league in 2008. |
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