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« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2009, 06:48:56 PM » |
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The match between Nakhon Sawan and Phitsanolouk will be on the 25th Jan, 6pm at the Pichit stadium
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« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2009, 10:04:24 PM » |
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Nakhon Sawan vs Thai Honda
1st Feb. 18.00, Chalimprapraget Staduim, Minburi
The winner will stay in division 1 for the 2009 season.
Semi final result
Nakhon Sawan 2-1 Phitsanolouk
Thai Honda 1-0 Rachavithi
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« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2009, 01:01:40 AM » |
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Thai Honda thumped Nakhon Sawan 4-0 to claim there place in next years 1st Division:
The full line up (to be confirmed by FAT):
Army Welfair Department FC (Promoted from Thailand Division 2 League)
Chanthaburi FC
Customs Department FC (Relegated from Thailand Premier League)
Khonkaen FC
Prachinburi FC (Promoted from Thailand Division 2 League)
PTT FC
Rattana Bundit FC
Royal Thai Air Force FC
Royal Thai Army FC (Relegated from Thailand Premier League)
Royal Thai Police FC
Songkhla FC (Promoted from Thailand Division 2 League)
Si Saket FC (Promoted from Thailand Division 2 League)
Suphanburi FC
Surat Thani FC
Thai Airways FC
Thai Honda
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« Reply #55 on: February 26, 2009, 08:11:23 PM » |
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Hello again.
Remember us outsiders are still interested in Division 1
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« Reply #56 on: February 27, 2009, 03:59:09 AM » |
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Check out all the links to the Clubwebsites, mostly you will be able to find contact details there. Email or phone numbers. For Thailand there is no Goundhopping guide yet available. But maybe someone should write one.  |
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« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2009, 03:05:52 AM » |
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Division One Results
March 21
Chanthaburi 2 - 3 Police United (Chanthaburi Stadium)
PTT 2 - 1 Rattana Bundit (Chonburi Physical Education Institute Stadium)
Suphanburi 3 - 0 Khonkaen (Suphanburi Municipality Stadium)
March 22
Prachinburi 0 - 0 Royal Thai Air Force (Prachinburi Central Sports Stadium)
Thai Airways 1 - 2 Surat Thani (Banbung Stadium)
Thai Honda 3 - 0 Nakhon Sawan (72-years Anniversary Stadium)
Songkhla 1 - 1 Sisaket (Jiranakorn Stadium, Hat Yai)
Come on Surat Thani and Songkhla!!!
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« Reply #59 on: March 26, 2009, 03:07:31 AM » |
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Surat Thani destroyed Sisaket 2-0 tonight and storm to the top of the 1st Division.
A big change from last years relegation struggle.
Roll on this weekends fixtures!
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« Reply #61 on: July 07, 2009, 03:27:57 PM » |
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PTT 2 Prachinburi 3
I’ve visited the Chonburi Sports College Ground on many occasions – the most recent being for a pre season clash between Chonburi and Bodoglimst of Norway - and have always been impressed with the set up. Therefore, I was delighted to see that they are currently in the middle of a rebuilding programme. Three sides of the ground now has terracing and the fourth will be completed soon; whether or not this means that PTT will make this their permanent home remains to be seen. I’ve already seen the stadium used as a home base for four different clubs (a large Chang to anyone who can name all four) so it would be nice for them to have long term tenants.
The match itself was a thoroughly entertaining game played in a Cumbrian style drizzle – it took me right back to my days on the terraces of Parkside Road, home of Netherfield (now Kendal Town) FC. Twice the home team came from behind but it would have been a great injustice if they’d got anything out of this game. The visitors were by far the better side, enjoying the bulk of possession and creating the better chances, much to the delight of their impressively large band of noisy fans.
The first half was pretty even but it ended with the away team deservedly going in 2-1 up, courtesy of a well struck free kick and a glaring error by the goalkeeper. Sandwiched in between was a superb headed goal by the impressive PTT centre half.
Prachinburi came out for the second period looking to increase their lead. They had obviously been instructed to shoot on sight and the shots rained in. The number 2 in particular looked threatening every time he took aim. The home keeper atoned for his earlier mistake by producing a string of fine saves to keep the deficit to one.
During a rare foray into opposition territory, PTT were awarded a free kick. The ball was swung across to the far post, where it was met by the centre half. This time he headed across the face of the goal and his team mate had the simple task of nodding home. 2-2.
It didn’t take Prachinburi long to restore their lead. The PTT defence failed to react quickly enough to a left wing free kick and the number 23 (who scored the first goal) nipped in at the near post to glance his header past the keeper.
In the time remaining, the away team had a few chances to add to their goals tally but when the final whistle blew the away support seemed more than happy to celebrate a well deserved 3-2 victory.
This was a very enjoyable way to spend a Sunday evening. And, thankfully, the rain had stopped so I was able to ride home without getting wet.
Stretcher Count - PTT 0 Prachinburi 1
Ref Watch - He had a very good game and stood no messing from the players. See the stretcher count for an example of this. I wish I'd got his name.
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« Reply #63 on: July 07, 2009, 06:09:48 PM » |
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Thanks for the match report! It was a nice distraction from writing my CV  I bet the drizzle was quite pleasant in Chonburi....Well more pleasant then drizzle in Kendal! I'll have a go at the "Win a bottle of Chang competition". 1. Chonburi 2. Provincial Electrical Authority 3. Thai Port 4. PTT ....Better get back to writing my CV....Shouldn't take long!  |
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« Reply #64 on: July 07, 2009, 06:16:23 PM » |
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1. Correct
2. Correct
3. Correct
4. is also correct but I wanted four teams other than PTT. So you still need one more. You've won a can of Chang so far : )
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« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2009, 06:31:11 PM » |
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I'll have to go with Sri Racha as my next guess.
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« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2009, 06:32:43 PM » |
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« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2009, 06:41:28 PM » |
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Is the team a TPL side?
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« Reply #68 on: July 09, 2009, 01:48:30 PM » |
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1. Correct
2. Correct
3. Correct
4. is also correct but I wanted four teams other than PTT. So you still need one more. You've won a can of Chang so far : )
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« Reply #69 on: July 09, 2009, 02:08:46 PM » |
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No. Sorry, Vinnie. You'll have to think outside the box slightly for the answer. Although it is a team from the top division.
PS Don't forget to drop me a line.
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« Reply #70 on: July 09, 2009, 02:44:05 PM » |
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« Reply #71 on: July 09, 2009, 04:33:27 PM » |
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No. Sorry, Vinnie. You'll have to think outside the box slightly for the answer. Although it is a team from the top division.
Well it can't be any of the recently formed TPL clubs such as Glass or Pattaya and I'm guessing that it's not a recently promoted side such as Muang Thong. So therefore it's a stalwart TPL side. I reckon BEC have always played in Bangkok so I'll go for Osotsapa. My back-up guess would be TTM Samut Sakhon when they were known as Tobacco Monopoly. |
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« Reply #72 on: July 09, 2009, 04:45:10 PM » |
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It's none of the teams you have mentioned. Would you like another clue?
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« Reply #73 on: July 09, 2009, 05:00:47 PM » |
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Well, you said that it's currently a TPL team so by process of elimination I'm sure I'll get there sooner or later. TOT?
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« Reply #74 on: July 09, 2009, 05:05:03 PM » |
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Who said it was a TPL team? I said that they play in the top division. ; )
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« Reply #75 on: July 16, 2009, 12:45:15 PM » |
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I've just read on Nigb's site ( www.thaileaguefootball.com) that Suphanburi could be folding due to financial problems. It would be a real shame if this was allowed to happen. I have a soft spot for Suphan. They were promoted from the Pro League with Chonburi and, along with us, were pioneers for provincial clubs. We were the only two teams in the league that season who weren't company, university or forces teams. Let's hope that they can be saved. |
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« Reply #76 on: July 16, 2009, 12:51:26 PM » |
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If they do go under it could mean that another of the Regional League champions are allowed up. So we would have 4 out of the 5 champions promoted instead of the current 3, which would, at least, be slightly more satisfactory.
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« Reply #77 on: July 16, 2009, 01:00:41 PM » |
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If they do go under it could mean that another of the Regional League champions are allowed up. So we would have 4 out of the 5 champions promoted instead of the current 3, which would, at least, be slightly more satisfactory.
It's more likely that their place will be sold to the highest bidder - P*ttaya U*d, BKK Gl*ss style. When KTB and Bang Phra folded, they didn't promote more teams from Division One or reprieve the teams who were relegated. Their places went to "The Dolphins" and "The Rabbits". Don't get your hopes up, Vinnie. |
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« Reply #78 on: July 30, 2009, 02:28:03 AM » |
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Things are starting to hot up for promotion to the TPL.
Police and Army look like going up at a canter, but who will take that 3rd spot?
Khon Kaen drew with Songkhla earlier today to currently occupy it.
But guy's, who would you like to see go up? Where do you fancy travelling to next year SRS, Macro & Nigb?
Vinnie, who would you potentially like to face next year if you make the grade?
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« Reply #79 on: July 30, 2009, 02:57:53 AM » |
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Things are starting to hot up for promotion to the TPL.
Police and Army look like going up at a canter, but who will take that 3rd spot?
Khon Kaen drew with Songkhla earlier today to currently occupy it.
But guy's, who would you like to see go up? Where do you fancy travelling to next year SRS, Macro & Nigb?
Vinnie, who would you potentially like to face next year if you make the grade? I personally would love to see Khon Kaen get promoted. I like the town + I've seen them play a couple of times. Their fans and players were really friendly towards me. Luckily for them, I wont get to see 'The T-REX' in action again this season...I'm somewhat of a jinx  . They've only picked up 1 point out of a possible 6 while I've been in attendance! |
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« Reply #80 on: July 30, 2009, 09:48:15 AM » |
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I'd like to play Khon Kaen next year but I'df love to see them in the TPL, too. I don't particularly want to see Army and Police back in the TPL - these teams just look like throwbacks these days - but if they get there on merit then I guess that's fair enough. There's a chance Thai Honda could yet fill the third place. To see Army, Police and Honda as the three promoted teams would be very disappointing.
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« Reply #81 on: July 30, 2009, 01:18:39 PM » |
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no doubt Khon Kaen are the team I want to see in the TPL next year. It would be fatastic, a huge bonus for the league. In 2011 it would be great to see Chiang Rai in there too, then maybe in 2012 Krabi If the TPL goes down this type of road it would be great. Police play near where I live in BKK so I went to a couple of matches. I can't stand them, a plastic team, you can see they have bought everything they have, including the fans... and where did their money come from? Army have a nice stadium in a highly populated area so maybe they could offer something if they copy Navy. |
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« Reply #82 on: July 30, 2009, 01:35:44 PM » |
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Possibly. I just think that with the TPL going from strength to strength attendance wise it would be disastrous to lose Navy Rayong, Siracha and possibly Nakhon Pathom or Pattaya (althogh I'm sure Chula will be one of the relegated clubs). Yes, Pattaya! I know that they came into being in a most unsavoury way but would you rather have a well supported non-Bangkok club like Pattaya in the TPL or yet another capital side like Honda playing in front of a few hundred in the vast concrete expanses of the 72nd anniversary stadium?
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« Reply #83 on: July 30, 2009, 04:17:03 PM » |
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Things are starting to hot up for promotion to the TPL.
Police and Army look like going up at a canter, but who will take that 3rd spot?
Khon Kaen drew with Songkhla earlier today to currently occupy it.
But guy's, who would you like to see go up? Where do you fancy travelling to next year SRS, Macro & Nigb?
Vinnie, who would you potentially like to face next year if you make the grade?
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« Reply #84 on: July 30, 2009, 04:25:20 PM » |
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"but would you rather have a well supported non-Bangkok club like Pattaya in the TPL or yet another capital side like Honda playing in front of a few hundred in the vast concrete expanses of the 72nd anniversary stadium?"
Do you really have to ask?
Give me Honda any day. OK, it may be throwback but at least they are a team with a history and a tradition. It really shouldn't matter how many fans you have or don't have it's what happens on the pitch that counts.
Did P*ttaya arrive in the TPL by winning matches? No
Will the Police and the Army reach the top league by courtesy of amassing more points than their rivals? Yes
So, whether you agree with company teams and forces teams or not at least they'll have done it the right way.
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I know, I know, you're right. If they go up then they've done it on merit but it wll just feel like such a step back if the TPL was to lose three provincial teams to be replaced by three Bangkok business/state teams.
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« Reply #86 on: July 30, 2009, 05:00:53 PM » |
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I think what we need to remember here is that there is life outside the TPL. Khon Kaen, Chiang Rai and a few others have shown that provincial clubs can attract good crowds further down the pyramid. Next season Chiang Rai and Korat could be playing in the 1st Division along with SriRacha and Nakorn Pathom. All four of those clubs have the potential for big crowds. It doesn't matter that they on't be playing at the highest level.
Attendances are well up throughout the league so, at this point in time, I don't think that it matters which division a team is playing in.
You only have to look at England to see the parallels. I'm sure that the powers that be would rather have Newcastle and L**ds in the Prem than Wigan and Stoke.
I want to see a situation in Thailand where the provincial and city teams outnumber the company and forces teams but I want to see it happen naturally and on the field of play. I don't like to see things manufactured.
I've been stating for a while now that this is a crucial time for Thai football but it needs managing correctly. I'd hate to see Chiang Rai and Khon Kaen fast-tracked to the TPL just because they are provincial clubs who are well managed and have large support. That's not the way it works for me. If the Police, the Army and Thai Honda come up and Nakorn Pathom, Samut Songkhram and SriRacha go down , then so be it. They'll just have to re-group and try and get back up by winning football matches.
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It would be remarkable if Thai Honda were to go up. They were relegated from Division One last season but because of the disbanding of Bangkok Bank they were placed in a four team mini-league, won it, and kept their place in Div 1.
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It would be remarkable if Thai Honda were to go up. They were relegated from Division One last season but because of the disbanding of Bangkok Bank they were placed in a four team mini-league, won it, and kept their place in Div 1.
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Possibly. I just think that with the TPL going from strength to strength attendance wise it would be disastrous to lose Navy Rayong, Siracha and possibly Nakhon Pathom or Pattaya (althogh I'm sure Chula will be one of the relegated clubs). Yes, Pattaya! I know that they came into being in a most unsavoury way but would you rather have a well supported non-Bangkok club like Pattaya in the TPL or yet another capital side like Honda playing in front of a few hundred in the vast concrete expanses of the 72nd anniversary stadium?
I am sure that, if the attendance rice up over the next years, and revenue will become a big impact in surving in the TPL, clubs like Honda, Police or Army, might dissapear sooner or later, or are only able to play in the 2nd or 3rd level of the pyramid. I think what we need to remember here is that there is life outside the TPL. Khon Kaen, Chiang Rai and a few others have shown that provincial clubs can attract good crowds further down the pyramid. Next season Chiang Rai and Korat could be playing in the 1st Division along with SriRacha and Nakorn Pathom. All four of those clubs have the potential for big crowds. It doesn't matter that they on't be playing at the highest level.
Attendances are well up throughout the league so, at this point in time, I don't think that it matters which division a team is playing in.
You only have to look at England to see the parallels. I'm sure that the powers that be would rather have Newcastle and L**ds in the Prem than Wigan and Stoke.
I want to see a situation in Thailand where the provincial and city teams outnumber the company and forces teams but I want to see it happen naturally and on the field of play. I don't like to see things manufactured.
Well at least the last sentance sounds strange to me. Even Iam able to understand your point. As comparision, take the 1. Bundesliga. It is the only league in Europe which could increasing the attandences year by over the past 6 or 7 years. Even smaller clubs got promotion with small stadiums. Not to mention the 2nd Bundesliga, which probably is the best 2nd League in Europe. 3rd League club Fortuna Dusseldorf, had nearly 50.000 in their stadium at the promotion decider game. Still a lot of new stadiums will be build in Germany over the next years, espacially now down the pyramid. Which will result in attracting more people to go to watch a match, and result than again in further increase of attandance figures for the 2nd and 3rd Bundesliga. Might me a bit off topic, but just want to give a look beyond. |
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I think all I'm saying is that personally I think it'll be a shame if all three of those teams I mentioned end up in the TPL next year. I'm not suggesting that they should be denied promotion or that other teams should be fast-tracked or that ceratain teams shouldn't be relegated.
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I didn't think for one minute that you were suggesting that, Vinnie. However, would it surprise you if the authorities came up with some scheme to get these clubs in the TPL based on their box office potential rather than their performance on the field?
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I'm not sure what the big fuss is regarding the clubs names, for instance, all clubs are started from something. In the old Eastern-Bloc, most teams are a CSKA this or Levski this, all which were formed off the back of the Army or Secret Police, etc.
The way Thai teams have gone wrong is by naming them as what they are. The Army, Police, Navy and Air Force have great tradition in Thai football and represent an institute with great history. They might not get many fans, but they represent a whole work force, that in some instances will be working overseas.
In Singapore, you have Home United, the Police club team, but no one really complains, if they were Police United, then a noise might be heard.
Of course we want to see more provincal teams playing as high as they can, but not at the cost of the institutes folding or being singled out. They started the game which has gone into the provinces and if they can do there stuff on the pitch, then in my eyes they are welcome.
Attendance wise, they might bring the league figures down somewhat, so the AFC should take this into account for their criteria for ACL.
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I didn't think for one minute that you were suggesting that, Vinnie. However, would it surprise you if the authorities came up with some scheme to get these clubs in the TPL based on their box office potential rather than their performance on the field?
Looks like it's starting. Reading this, it looks like we're suggesting that only one club will be automatically relagated this season - unless I've misunderstood. Therefore, they are proposing to change the rules part way through the season. It's the thin end of the wedge. From www.thaileaguefootball.comThe Thai Premier League may increase the number of teams in the league next year from 16 to 18 or 20. Financial benefits and increased professionalism are the reasons given for the possible expansion. Chonburi and Bangkok Glass are in support of the expansion. Chonburi requests relegation from the TPL is upheld and suggested that 14th, 15th of the TPL enter a play off with 4th and 5th of Division 1, the 2 winners would enter the TPL next year with the top three promoted from Division 1 |
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Looks like it's starting. Reading this, it looks like we're suggesting that only one club will be automatically relagated this season - unless I've misunderstood. Therefore, they are proposing to change the rules part way through the season. It's the thin end of the wedge. From www.thaileaguefootball.comThe Thai Premier League may increase the number of teams in the league next year from 16 to 18 or 20. Financial benefits and increased professionalism are the reasons given for the possible expansion. Chonburi and Bangkok Glass are in support of the expansion. Chonburi requests relegation from the TPL is upheld and suggested that 14th, 15th of the TPL enter a play off with 4th and 5th of Division 1, the 2 winners would enter the TPL next year with the top three promoted from Division 1 this was just a suggestion from some Chonburi official - 14th, 15th verses 4th, 5th of Div 1 + 1st, 2nd, 3rd of Div 1 promoted From the news it looks like an increase of team numbers is probable for the TPL |
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« Reply #95 on: August 05, 2009, 03:06:01 PM » |
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The point I'm trying to make is that when the season started it was understood that the bottom three in the TPL would be automatically relegated. I know it may only be a suggestion at the moment but I'm pretty certain that FAT will give this serious thought. If they want to increase the number of clubs in the top flight, then next season should start with 16 clubs and they should outline the methods they will employ to expand before a ball is kicked. ie 2 down 4 up. This could mean play offs or straight promotion/relegation. Therefore, they'll have an increased number for the 2011 season. You simply can't change the rules halfway through a campaign. They've already had to change the rules re promotion from the second division because they weren't smart enough to realise that having 5 regional leagues would lead to a problem when it came to who went up. : |
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« Reply #96 on: August 21, 2009, 09:33:45 PM » |
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There are a couple of big games in Bangkok tomorrow. 2nd place Thai Army take on 3rd place Khon Kaen, and 6th place Air Force take on 4th place Sisaket.
In my opinion Thai Army vs Khon Kaen would be a better game to televise then Nakhon Pathom vs Chula United & Samut Songkram vs TTM.
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« Reply #97 on: August 22, 2009, 11:17:03 PM » |
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Khon Kaen lost 0-1 and Sisaket won 4-0 so the T-Rex drop down to 4th. I hope that they're not going to blow it!
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« Reply #98 on: August 22, 2009, 11:25:19 PM » |
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Khon Kaen lost 0-1 and Sisaket won 4-0 so the T-Rex drop down to 4th. I hope that they're not going to blow it!
If Sisaket win their game in hand, they will be 5 points ahead of Khon Kaen...I've got a feeling KK are going to fall away and finish 5th or 6th. |
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« Reply #99 on: September 01, 2009, 12:55:46 PM » |
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Does anyone have, or have a link to, the final 2007 Div 1 tables? They used to be on wikipedia but I can't see them on there now or anywhere else for that matter. It was only two years ago, they must be on the net somewhere!
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