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I hear the smell of argument again !  No Charade you have my word I'll rise above petty nonsense. I think there's enough of everyone's posts to decide who is credible and who's not now anyway. The only time I'll step in is when I'm misquoted as it is now happening quite a bit and naturally nobody likes to be lied about.I'm sure you can appreciate that. Back to discussion about Buriram PEA.....
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I remember some sort of version of Buriram playing my team Krabi in a playoff game back in 2006. But with most clubs in the RL, they all seem to show that they were formed in the years they entered the RL structure.
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As you can see this is my first post. I have been following Thai football for a while as I have this forum.
There seems to be alot of hatred of PEA and to be honest I'm not surprised.
I was hopeful that the arrival of a new team at the top of the league would make things better for Thai football and the national team.
Unfortuneately not.
PEA really has nothing to do with football.
The boss is doing it for other reasons. The players don't seem to be connected to Buriram and the fans............................
Well that's the real joke. They are not fans they are staff. Getting paid to go, being involved in choreographed singing,dancing and cheering.
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« Reply #254 on: January 03, 2011, 05:19:59 PM » |
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http://bit.ly/fz6VvtNewin has confirmed he has sent "coaches" to Leicester to observe players and make enquiries about bringing some to PEA, especially strikers. I find this approach to be risky and possibly misleading in the way Newin describes it, though to be fair that may be just lost in translation. There's still a long way to go before the season starts but from a preparation and transfer activity point of view I think MTU and BG have a far more sensible approach to reinforcement.
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Greg Almighty has spoken!!!!!!!!!  Was that written from your sandbox at Paddy's binnsy? Honestly, knowing that you and Mark spent a fair amount of time lurking on this forum before signing on and posting, I would have thought that you would have prepared better defence of the club. Instead, your arguments have ranged from lightweight to non-existent, and petty insults have dominated your posts. It's been pretty disappointing. You could have done so much more with the above post. For example, given that you were the one who suggested that Thailand's NT might be struggling because of imports in the league, what are your views on the prospect of more foreigners joining your club, especially in a position where you already have two imports (Douglas and Dudu), and if other posts on here are correct, have just flicked on two Thai forwards (Suriya and Pipat)? What do you make of Newin's comment that PEA didn't score many goals last season? (At least I think he means PEA; it's a bit confusing when he's sending coaches of two different clubs  ) I felt PEA struggled for goals early, but seemed to be scoring for fun at the end of the season, and I think you made a similar comment. However, perhaps some of the big League Cup wins are clouding my perception. What about Greg's comment about methods of development? I've commented before that Newin seems to like taking shortcuts to success, and this would seem to be another (if it comes off). On the other hand, PEA's team in the Youth League seem to be doing alright as well. However, one would imagine that many of these are fringe 1st team members. What are PEA doing in terms of a youth programme to prooduce the next crop of youngsters? Over to you.
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« Reply #257 on: January 04, 2011, 06:09:43 AM » |
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In my honest opinion this could be a mistake on Newin's part. I think he's looking at it as a case of impressing people by effectively saying: "Look, even English clubs want to send players here!". But while most Leicester squad players would be top notch players in this league, the idea of loaning out youngsters from the team strikes me as risky in so many ways.
That's why I think we have a better set up at MTU, because we have money too, but the money men are in the background and allow qualified coaches with a lot of knowedge of how a club is run to take the reins. Rene and Rob are seeking top local talent to replace outgoing players and are also setting up a youth team with their own training camp and so on. I think that's a far more stable way to run things but who knows? In the short term the Leicester City gamble may pay off or Newin may also bring in some local talent but if goals are the issue it's surprising that Anon and Joe have both slipped through.
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For example, given that you were the one who suggested that Thailand's NT might be struggling because of imports in the league, what are your views on the prospect of more foreigners joining your club, especially in a position where you already have two imports (Douglas and Dudu), and if other posts on here are correct, have just flicked on two Thai forwards (Suriya and Pipat
I would like to see a limit on the number of foriegn imports to every TPL team as I believe that they have had an affect on the strength of the Thai National Team(AFF Suzuki Cup performance)
On the other hand, PEA's team in the Youth League seem to be doing alright as well. However, one would imagine that many of these are fringe 1st team members. What are PEA doing in terms of a youth programme to prooduce the next crop of youngsters?
You have answered that one yourself.
What do you make of Newin's comment that PEA didn't score many goals last season?
Early results show that the number of draws that Buriram would show that he is correct and Buriram were not scoring (with the exception of Dudu) Kirati could not hit a barn door,Things became better with Douglas find his feet,Pipat was a mistake and towards the end Suriya was scoring but mainly in the Toyota Cup.
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« Reply #259 on: January 04, 2011, 10:24:39 AM » |
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For example, given that you were the one who suggested that Thailand's NT might be struggling because of imports in the league, what are your views on the prospect of more foreigners joining your club, especially in a position where you already have two imports (Douglas and Dudu), and if other posts on here are correct, have just flicked on two Thai forwards (Suriya and Pipat)
I would like to see a limit on the number of foriegn imports to every TPL team as I believe that they have had an affect on the strength of the Thai National Team(AFF Suzuki Cup performance) There is a limit: I think it's 5 (or is it 7) per team. MTU and Chonburi are also restricted to the 3+1 rule in AFC competitions, which means they need to make sure they've got Thais capable of competing for places with imports in at least 2 or 3 positions. Also, why do you think it affected the NT? Personally I disagree, as the players used in Indonesia were still getting regular game time at their clubs, i.e. they aren't being kept on the sidelines by imports and therefore should have been in form and match-fit. However, I'm interested in your reasons. On the other hand, PEA's team in the Youth League seem to be doing alright as well. However, one would imagine that many of these are fringe 1st team members. What are PEA doing in terms of a youth programme to produce the next crop of youngsters? You have answered that one yourself.
The Youth league is U-23 (or is U-22). I know PEA have only been in Buriram a year, but are there programmes working with U-19, U-17, etc? I'm thinking along the lines of Chonburi, who I believe have an academy-type relationship with Assumption Sri Racha (SRS will correct me if that's wrong) I would love to see more school-age players developed in their home provinces, rather than taking the usual path to Bangkok Christian, the Assumptions, or the other 'big' Bangkok schools, which currently seems to be the only way to be recognised and successful in Thai football. What do you make of Newin's comment that PEA didn't score many goals last season?
Early results show that the number of draws that Buriram would show that he is correct and Buriram were not scoring (with the exception of Dudu) Kirati could not hit a barn door,Things became better with Douglas find his feet,Pipat was a mistake and towards the end Suriya was scoring but mainly in the Toyota Cup.
This is my point. Things were working well towards the end of the season. If it aint broke, why fix it? Also, bringing in Leicester forwards may mean selling Dudu and Douglas (who seem to be doing very well for you) to keep PEA under the import quota. To me, this would be a gamble; replacing settled, successful players with unknown quantities. If your players were moving on, fair enough, but this seems more like change for the sake of change. (If, of course, it happens).
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« Reply #260 on: January 04, 2011, 12:25:57 PM » |
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In my honest opinion this could be a mistake on Newin's part. I think he's looking at it as a case of impressing people by effectively saying: "Look, even English clubs want to send players here!". But while most Leicester squad players would be top notch players in this league, the idea of loaning out youngsters from the team strikes me as risky in so many ways.
That's why I think we have a better set up at MTU, because we have money too, but the money men are in the background and allow qualified coaches with a lot of knowedge of how a club is run to take the reins. Rene and Rob are seeking top local talent to replace outgoing players and are also setting up a youth team with tehir own training camp and so on. I think that's a far more stable way to run things but who knows? In the short term the Leicester City gamble may pay off or Newin may also bring in some local talent but if goals are the issue it's surprising that Anon and Joe have both slipped through.
What do you think Binnsy? Let's focus on the football, that's what the forum is for.
I do not believe that you or anyone else will be seeing any Leicester City players turning out for Buriram during the forthcoming season. Rene and Rob have done a grand job in bringing in some well thought of Thai players,but they must have different views on certain players abilites to that of other TPL clubs.They must rate Anon and Joe to sign them but there are other clubs who may not want to touch them.Only time will tell. I would not put the signing of the guy from Bradford City in the Youth or Local bracket.But a good signing. Buriram are building an academy just along the road from where the new stadium is under construction. As for the coaching side of a team i would like to see fully quailified FIFA coaching staff at all clubs but i guess there are not many with the badges in the TPL. Where the owner sits does not make a lot of difference if he wants to sit on the bench then so be it if however he wants to sit in VIP box so be it,up to him.
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« Reply #261 on: January 04, 2011, 12:44:54 PM » |
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Also, why do you think it affected the NT? Personally I disagree, as the players used in Indonesia were still getting regular game time at their clubs, i.e. they aren't being kept on the sidelines by imports and therefore should have been in form and match-fit. However, I'm interested in your reasons.
Towards the end of the season Kirati was kept on the bench as an import(Douglas)was preferered to him at Buriram and as a striker you would want to be starting games which boosts you confidence. I would be amazed if this was the only example of this. If the limit is 5 then in most games that Buriram played last season we started with the maximum allowed and by doing this I believe that its delays the developement of the Thai Youth which has a knock on affect in time.
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« Reply #262 on: January 04, 2011, 02:26:27 PM » |
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In my honest opinion this could be a mistake on Newin's part. I think he's looking at it as a case of impressing people by effectively saying: "Look, even English clubs want to send players here!". But while most Leicester squad players would be top notch players in this league, the idea of loaning out youngsters from the team strikes me as risky in so many ways.
That's why I think we have a better set up at MTU, because we have money too, but the money men are in the background and allow qualified coaches with a lot of knowedge of how a club is run to take the reins. Rene and Rob are seeking top local talent to replace outgoing players and are also setting up a youth team with tehir own training camp and so on. I think that's a far more stable way to run things but who knows? In the short term the Leicester City gamble may pay off or Newin may also bring in some local talent but if goals are the issue it's surprising that Anon and Joe have both slipped through.
What do you think Binnsy? Let's focus on the football, that's what the forum is for.
I do not believe that you or anyone else will be seeing any Leicester City players turning out for Buriram during the forthcoming season. Rene and Rob have done a grand job in bringing in some well thought of Thai players,but they must have different views on certain players abilites to that of other TPL clubs.They must rate Anon and Joe to sign them but there are other clubs who may not want to touch them.Only time will tell. They didn't sign Joe, BG did. I happen to know certain other top clubs wanted Anon, he is the most prolific striker after all.
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The only way I can make sense of that comment is to guess you are speaking figuratively. But then it makes a huge amount of difference. Having a lot of money does not automatically make him good at running a club. If he is deciding where players come from, who the players are and so on rather than delegating that task to somewhere with greater knowledge and reading of the game, then clearly that has an affect.
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Where the owner sits does not make a lot of difference if he wants to sit on the bench then so be it if however he wants to sit in VIP box so be it,up to him.
The only way I can make sense of that comment is to guess you are speaking figuratively. But then it makes a huge amount of difference. Having a lot of money does not automatically make him good at running a club. If he is deciding where players come from, who the players are and so on rather than delegating that task to somewhere with greater knowledge and reading of the game, then clearly that has an affect. Where did i state that having money makes him good at running a club?. As i stated i would be very surprised if you or anyone see's a Leicester City player playing for Buriram.If he sends people over to watch/learn from Leicester City coaching staff then good for Buriram. You seem to be of the opion that he is picking the team?
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« Reply #265 on: January 04, 2011, 04:36:13 PM » |
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Towards the end of the season Kirati was kept on the bench as an import(Douglas)was preferered to him at Buriram and as a striker you would want to be starting games which boosts you confidence. I would be amazed if this was the only example of this. If the limit is 5 then in most games that Buriram played last season we started with the maximum allowed and by doing this I believe that its delays the developement of the Thai Youth which has a knock on affect in time.
I'd be surprised if many others were kept out by foreigners. The only exception I can think of is possibly Teerasil (MTU), who was rotated with Dagno and Kone at MTU. However, due to their fixture congestion, he seemed to still played a fair bit. And he was at the Asian Games as well just before the Suzuki Cup. However, I agree with you that a quota of 5 five imports is too high in a playing XI. I'd prefer to see something like a squad quota of 5, but with a limit of 3 on the pitch at any one time.
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« Reply #266 on: January 04, 2011, 04:40:58 PM » |
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Where did i state that having money makes him good at running a club?.
It might be a misunderstanding but I was confused about your statement regarding where Newin sits, as I couldn't see any questions about this. So I took it figuratively and my point then is: why should he sit on the bench unless he is involved in tactical work? What qualifications does he have? There are none, so to my mind it can only be because he is the owner. Fans might think that gives him the right to sit anywhere he pleases and yes it does, I'd probably want to sit on the bench, too! I don't think it's right though, and it does imply he's involved in tactics doesn't it? The deceased owner of Southampton was far richer and more widely known than Newin and he always sat in the stands, leaving tactics to the professionals. You seem to be of the opion that he is picking the team?
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« Reply #267 on: January 04, 2011, 04:46:29 PM » |
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The Youth league is U-23 (or is U-22). I know PEA have only been in Buriram a year, but are there programmes working with U-19, U-17, etc? I'm thinking along the lines of Chonburi, who I believe have an academy-type relationship with Assumption Sri Racha (SRS will correct me if that's wrong)
I would love to see more school-age players developed in their home provinces, rather than taking the usual path to Bangkok Christian, the Assumptions, or the other 'big' Bangkok schools, which currently seems to be the only way to be recognised and successful in Thai football.
A good and reverse example from nowadays, is the academie of BGFC with Surachet Ngamtip and I think Wichaya Dechmitr.
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Was he in the Thai squad In my honest opinion this could be a mistake on Newin's part. I think he's looking at it as a case of impressing people by effectively saying: "Look, even English clubs want to send players here!". But while most Leicester squad players would be top notch players in this league, the idea of loaning out youngsters from the team strikes me as risky in so many ways.
That's why I think we have a better set up at MTU, because we have money too, but the money men are in the background and allow qualified coaches with a lot of knowedge of how a club is run to take the reins. Rene and Rob are seeking top local talent to replace outgoing players and are also setting up a youth team with tehir own training camp and so on. I think that's a far more stable way to run things but who knows? In the short term the Leicester City gamble may pay off or Newin may also bring in some local talent but if goals are the issue it's surprising that Anon and Joe have both slipped through.
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Anon was left out of the Thai squad... yet again.
He's scored 50 (or 52?) goals in the past 3 TPL seasons, picking up 2 consecutive Golden Boots in 2008 and 2009. He was the most prolific Thai scorer again this season, finishing 3rd overall behind Ludovick and Dangno.
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From the Buriram-PEA website: http://www.burirampea.com/content.php?ID=407It seems Newin is bringing in 'about 10' English/Leicester players (whom he can't name just yet) for trials with the club. Not sure how many import spots PEA have left to fill, but 10 triallists from one club seems excessive, especially as he and his coaches have been looking at them in England. On Thai TV today they mentoned one coming over which we will have to wait and see I will be surprised if it happens
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From the Buriram-PEA website: http://www.burirampea.com/content.php?ID=407It seems Newin is bringing in 'about 10' English/Leicester players (whom he can't name just yet) for trials with the club. Not sure how many import spots PEA have left to fill, but 10 triallists from one club seems excessive, especially as he and his coaches have been looking at them in England. On Thai TV today they mentoned one coming over which we will have to wait and see I will be surprised if it happens For all you closet Buriram PEA fans out there the new shirt is out only 300 Baht mail me th cash and I will send you as many as you want.Greg you I can arrange you to have yours free as you would make a cheer leader instead of a ULTRA with just a song sheet.
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Like a few other TPL clubs, Newin is going "inter" as well, and trying to establish connections with unnamed Belgian and 2nd Division Spanish clubs. If I've read this correctly, he may even be trying to buy a stake in (or even takeover) said clubs, with a long-term aim of developing Thai football. He's looking at European clubs rather than English due to the difficulties faced by Thai players in getting work permits.
The same article also states that Kirati Kiaewsombut and two young keepers, Ukrit Wongmeema and Yosapol Tiengda, are going to train with Leicester. They will go during leg 1 of this season, before returning to help PEA in the 2nd leg, unless they're bought by the English club.
The keepers I can understand, but Kirati seems an odd choice. I know binnsy said he was being kept on the bench by foreigners last season, but surely he'd be just about 1st cab off the rank in case of injury/suspension?
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Like a few other TPL clubs, Newin is going "inter" as well, and trying to establish connections with unnamed Belgian and 2nd Division Spanish clubs. If I've read this correctly, he may even be trying to buy a stake in (or even takeover) said clubs, with a long-term aim of developing Thai football. He's looking at European clubs rather than English due to the difficulties faced by Thai players in getting work permits.
The same article also states that Kirati Kiaewsombut and two young keepers, Ukrit Wongmeema and Yosapol Tiengda, are going to train with Leicester. They will go during leg 1 of this season, before returning to help PEA in the 2nd leg, unless they're bought by the English club.
The keepers I can understand, but Kirati seems an odd choice. I know binnsy said he was being kept on the bench by foreigners last season, but surely he'd be just about 1st cab off the rank in case of injury/suspension?
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Datsakorn is best player Midfielder Datsakorn Thonglao of Muang Thong United won the 1st Football Siam Golden Ball Award yesterday while his teammate in the national side, Suchao Nutnum, was voted the most popular player.
he awards, organised by Football Siam TV of Siam Sport Syndicate, were presented at the Radisson hotel.
In addition to Datsakorn's prize, Muang Thong picked up three more awards, with Dagno Siaka of the Ivory Coast selected as best foreign player and Kawin Thamasatchanan the best young player.
Muang Thong was also named the best club.
Best coach award went to Pattaya United's Thavatchai Dumrong-Ongtrakul. who has since moved to Insee Police United.
Suchao, who plays for Buriram PEA was voted most popular player by the fans in a website poll.
Somruek Issarangkul Na Ayuddhya, director of Football Siam TV said he was very pleased with the success of the awards and he hoped to expand the number of awards next year.
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« Reply #278 on: January 23, 2011, 08:50:33 PM » |
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Datsakorn is best player Midfielder Datsakorn Thonglao of Muang Thong United won the 1st Football Siam Golden Ball Award yesterday while his teammate in the national side, Suchao Nutnum, was voted the most popular player.
he awards, organised by Football Siam TV of Siam Sport Syndicate, were presented at the Radisson hotel.
In addition to Datsakorn's prize, Muang Thong picked up three more awards, with Dagno Siaka of the Ivory Coast selected as best foreign player and Kawin Thamasatchanan the best young player.
Muang Thong was also named the best club.
Best coach award went to Pattaya United's Thavatchai Dumrong-Ongtrakul. who has since moved to Insee Police United.
Suchao, who plays for Buriram PEA was voted most popular player by the fans in a website poll.
Somruek Issarangkul Na Ayuddhya, director of Football Siam TV said he was very pleased with the success of the awards and he hoped to expand the number of awards next year.
BEST SUPPORTERS-BURIRAM PEA  YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THIS AWARD Have just seen photos of the awards ceremony, and Buriram PEA should be stripped of that award. How can you claim to have the best fans when: A) You can't find a fan club rep to accept the award? B) The person who does pick up the award for you is the owner of (what should be) a rival club? And C) She accepts the award wearing the shirt of her own club? So Wolfie it has sunk in that SHE owns FC? Buriram PEA was voted this award by viewers?. If the owner cannot make the presentation himself who better to pick up a award than his wife? What clothes she decides to where's is down to her or does she need your approval?. ;-) As has been stated before BURIRAM PEA is in its first year and to my knowledge there is no offical FAN CLUB.
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« Reply #279 on: January 23, 2011, 08:56:53 PM » |
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Unfortunately, I think it gets posted elsewhere for his consumption. I wonder if he answers my questions in that other cyberspace?
Seriously though, it's the equivalent of Clive Palmer picking up an award on behalf of Yellow Fever, or Niall Quinn doing the same for the Toon Army, Mr. Glazer on behalf of Man City fans...
If you were a fan of the clubs concerened, you'd be asking questions.
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« Reply #280 on: January 23, 2011, 09:03:31 PM » |
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My New Year's resolution is not to get involved in Buriram-related arguments, but I will say that it does seem odd a fan didn't collect it. The forces behind Buriram PEA/F.C can build two 20,000+ stadiums in two years, can put together a team that came close to winning the TPL, can get BFC promoted, but they can't find one fan to pick up this fans award. 
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« Reply #281 on: January 23, 2011, 09:05:02 PM » |
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Have just seen photos of the awards ceremony
Link please Wolfman?
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« Reply #282 on: January 23, 2011, 09:09:31 PM » |
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So Wolfie it has sunk in that SHE owns FC?
binnsy, 1. I'm well aware that she owns FC, in name at least. Buriram PEA was voted this award by viewers? I'm not disputing this. The call to strip them of the award was meant to be light-hearted, although i think it raises more serious questions. If the owner cannot make the presentation himself who better to pick up a award than his wife? Newin was there. He's in other photos of the same event What clothes she decides to where's is down to her or does she need your approval?. ;-) No approval needed, although she looks well underdressed compared to most of the other recipients. However, you're completely missing my point. She's there representing BFC, yet accepting an award for the FANS of (what is supposed to be) a completely different club. As I've just posted, I wouldn't be impressed if Clive Palmer accepted an award in a Gold Coast shirt on behalf on the Phoenix fans. I'd be asking why my club couldn't be bothered to find a representative (fan or otherwise) to accept the award. It doesn't project an image of a club that cares about its fans. As has been stated before BURIRAM PEA is in its first year and to my knowledge there is no offical FAN CLUB. But there is a "hardcore" who decorated the Chidchob's bathroom. There is a hardcore who get paid each week (your words, not mine). There are plenty of photos on facebook of fans in PEA shirts. Some of them are even "friends " with Mrs. C. Surely it can't be that difficult to find one? What about the ones who stand next to her each week and lead the cheers?
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« Reply #283 on: January 23, 2011, 09:11:58 PM » |
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Have just seen photos of the awards ceremony
Link please Wolfman? This week's Football Siam. Don't know if they're online Edit: here's a link http://www.siamsport.co.th/SiamsportPhoto/show.php?id=189Newin pops up in picture 16 or 17, Karuna receives the fan award in 31.
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« Reply #284 on: January 24, 2011, 12:52:01 AM » |
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Datsakorn is best player Midfielder Datsakorn Thonglao of Muang Thong United won the 1st Football Siam Golden Ball Award yesterday while his teammate in the national side, Suchao Nutnum, was voted the most popular player.
he awards, organised by Football Siam TV of Siam Sport Syndicate, were presented at the Radisson hotel.
In addition to Datsakorn's prize, Muang Thong picked up three more awards, with Dagno Siaka of the Ivory Coast selected as best foreign player and Kawin Thamasatchanan the best young player.
Muang Thong was also named the best club.
Best coach award went to Pattaya United's Thavatchai Dumrong-Ongtrakul. who has since moved to Insee Police United.
Suchao, who plays for Buriram PEA was voted most popular player by the fans in a website poll.
Somruek Issarangkul Na Ayuddhya, director of Football Siam TV said he was very pleased with the success of the awards and he hoped to expand the number of awards next year.
BEST SUPPORTERS-BURIRAM PEA  YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THIS AWARD Have just seen photos of the awards ceremony, and Buriram PEA should be stripped of that award. How can you claim to have the best fans when: A) You can't find a fan club rep to accept the award? B) The person who does pick up the award for you is the owner of (what should be) a rival club? And C) She accepts the award wearing the shirt of her own club? So Wolfie it has sunk in that SHE owns FC? Buriram PEA was voted this award by viewers?. If the owner cannot make the presentation himself who better to pick up a award than his wife? What clothes she decides to where's is down to her or does she need your approval?. ;-) As has been stated before BURIRAM PEA is in its first year and to my knowledge there is no offical FAN CLUB. Oh Binnsy, still can't believe you think Burirma PEA are still in there first year. It makes TTM start a fresh every year, they could be known as the team that has never been beaten. Anyway, can you tell us anything on Buriram VA that is starting up soon?
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« Reply #285 on: January 24, 2011, 07:21:14 AM » |
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My New Year's resolution is not to get involved in Buriram-related arguments, but I will say that it does seem odd a fan didn't collect it. The forces behind Buriram PEA/F.C can build two 20,000+ stadiums in two years, can put together a team that came close to winning the TPL, can get BFC promoted, but they can't find one fan to pick up this fans award.  The current ground has been there for at least four years so Vinnie two stadiums in two years is incorrect.
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« Reply #286 on: January 24, 2011, 07:44:06 AM » |
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In my honest opinion this could be a mistake on Newin's part. I think he's looking at it as a case of impressing people by effectively saying: "Look, even English clubs want to send players here!". But while most Leicester squad players would be top notch players in this league, the idea of loaning out youngsters from the team strikes me as risky in so many ways.
That's why I think we have a better set up at MTU, because we have money too, but the money men are in the background and allow qualified coaches with a lot of knowedge of how a club is run to take the reins. Rene and Rob are seeking top local talent to replace outgoing players and are also setting up a youth team with their own training camp and so on. I think that's a far more stable way to run things but who knows? In the short term the Leicester City gamble may pay off or Newin may also bring in some local talent but if goals are the issue it's surprising that Anon and Joe have both slipped through.
What do you think Binnsy? Let's focus on the football, that's what the forum is for.
Since when has England,Finland and a Slovakian been TOP LOCAL TALENT?
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« Reply #287 on: January 24, 2011, 07:53:56 AM » |
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Datsakorn is best player Midfielder Datsakorn Thonglao of Muang Thong United won the 1st Football Siam Golden Ball Award yesterday while his teammate in the national side, Suchao Nutnum, was voted the most popular player.
he awards, organised by Football Siam TV of Siam Sport Syndicate, were presented at the Radisson hotel.
In addition to Datsakorn's prize, Muang Thong picked up three more awards, with Dagno Siaka of the Ivory Coast selected as best foreign player and Kawin Thamasatchanan the best young player.
Muang Thong was also named the best club.
Best coach award went to Pattaya United's Thavatchai Dumrong-Ongtrakul. who has since moved to Insee Police United.
Suchao, who plays for Buriram PEA was voted most popular player by the fans in a website poll.
Somruek Issarangkul Na Ayuddhya, director of Football Siam TV said he was very pleased with the success of the awards and he hoped to expand the number of awards next year.
BEST SUPPORTERS-BURIRAM PEA  YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THIS AWARD Have just seen photos of the awards ceremony, and Buriram PEA should be stripped of that award. How can you claim to have the best fans when: A) You can't find a fan club rep to accept the award? B) The person who does pick up the award for you is the owner of (what should be) a rival club? And C) She accepts the award wearing the shirt of her own club? So Wolfie it has sunk in that SHE owns FC? Buriram PEA was voted this award by viewers?. If the owner cannot make the presentation himself who better to pick up a award than his wife? What clothes she decides to where's is down to her or does she need your approval?. ;-) As has been stated before BURIRAM PEA is in its first year and to my knowledge there is no offical FAN CLUB. Oh Binnsy, still can't believe you think Burirma PEA are still in there first year. It makes TTM start a fresh every year, they could be known as the team that has never been beaten. Anyway, can you tell us anything on Buriram VA that is starting up soon? Maybe you can post some league tables showing Buriram PEA ? Buriram VA ?
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« Reply #288 on: January 24, 2011, 08:39:33 AM » |
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« Reply #289 on: January 24, 2011, 09:46:00 AM » |
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My New Year's resolution is not to get involved in Buriram-related arguments, but I will say that it does seem odd a fan didn't collect it. The forces behind Buriram PEA/F.C can build two 20,000+ stadiums in two years, can put together a team that came close to winning the TPL, can get BFC promoted, but they can't find one fan to pick up this fans award.  The current ground has been there for at least four years so Vinnie two stadiums in two years is incorrect. Sigh, yes, technically you're right. Of course I should have written that three of the four stands at the current i-Mobile Stadium have been built since late 2009. The ground as it originally was with its solitary main stand can be seen on Google Earth.
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« Reply #290 on: January 24, 2011, 10:37:46 AM » |
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i see since i have been on here and even before,there seems to be a resentment against buriram pea,i my self don't know to much about thai football,but i would like to hear some views of why people feel this way.also as i am traveling north soon,is it worth my time checking this team out ,or would people suggest to stay away.i looked up last season league table and see they finished second so i assume the dislike is not football related.
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« Reply #291 on: January 24, 2011, 10:57:41 AM » |
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i see since i have been on here and even before,there seems to be a resentment against buriram pea,i my self don't know to much about thai football,but i would like to hear some views of why people feel this way. We don't need to go through this again. I appreciate that you're a new member so here's a whole thread dedicated to people's issues with PEA. http://www.thaifootball.com/webboard/index.php?topic=722.0
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« Reply #292 on: January 24, 2011, 12:00:57 PM » |
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it makes interesting reading still one thing i can see is people here are very passionate about the teams they support, i must say i do like that kind of support,but certainly don't want to get involved in political arguments.i see on the map that sisaket and buriram and khon kean are close,and that khon kean play buriram soon,but if i can obtain a ticket i will sit with the home fans of khon kean and not the buriram political party,thank you for all your help.
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« Reply #293 on: January 24, 2011, 01:45:16 PM » |
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it makes interesting reading still one thing i can see is people here are very passionate about the teams they support, i must say i do like that kind of support,but certainly don't want to get involved in political arguments.i see on the map that sisaket and buriram and khon kean are close,and that khon kean play buriram soon,but if i can obtain a ticket i will sit with the home fans of khon kean and not the buriram political party,thank you for all your help.
I am a Buriram PEA fan simply because I happen to live in Buriram.If you have read some of the posts on here by a little click of people Buriram PEA is not a football team but a former politicians play thing.IMHO the only poster who has a proper grievence is NigB the reason i state this is because his family used to support PEA when they played in another Town.The rest well they could be the same person.Vinnie,Drury,Wolfie and Gregory(aka t_e). If you do visit Buriram you may have to get a visa for North Korea if you listen to those . Teams move about here and they take the name with them PEA is the Electric Company,TTM is the Tobacco Company. Buriram is a rural area and not a lot of money about(exept chinese) and the owner pays around 800 supporters/workers to attend match's for 100 baht per game and he is in the wrong.Thats up to you what you think but come to a Buriram PEA game and you will see good football.If not jump on the Muang Thong bandwagon whilst its on a roll.
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« Reply #294 on: January 24, 2011, 02:00:16 PM » |
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Now Binnsy. How am I supposed to keep my New Year's resolution when you write posts like that?  I'm not gonna bite, I'm not gonna bite, I'm not gonna bite... 
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« Reply #295 on: January 24, 2011, 02:57:28 PM » |
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Certainly seems that the PEA/FC owners seem to be making rods for their own backs.
Do they really not think about things before they go on an ego trip?
I mean. Owner/Owner's wife going to collect a "Fans" award dressed in a different teams shirt!!!!
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« Reply #297 on: January 24, 2011, 07:32:05 PM » |
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it makes interesting reading still one thing i can see is people here are very passionate about the teams they support, i must say i do like that kind of support,but certainly don't want to get involved in political arguments.i see on the map that sisaket and buriram and khon kean are close,and that khon kean play buriram soon,but if i can obtain a ticket i will sit with the home fans of khon kean and not the buriram political party,thank you for all your help. I am a Buriram PEA fan simply because I happen to live in Buriram.If you have read some of the posts on here by a little click of people Buriram PEA is not a football team but a former politicians play thing.IMHO the only poster who has a proper grievence is NigB the reason i state this is because his family used to support PEA when they played in another Town.The rest well they could be the same person.Vinnie,Drury,Wolfie and Gregory(aka t_e). If you do visit Buriram you may have to get a visa for North Korea if you listen to those . Teams move about here and they take the name with them PEA is the Electric Company,TTM is the Tobacco Company. Buriram is a rural area and not a lot of money about(exept chinese) and the owner pays around 800 supporters/workers to attend match's for 100 baht per game and he is in the wrong.Thats up to you what you think but come to a Buriram PEA game and you will see good football.If not jump on the Muang Thong bandwagon whilst its on a roll. hi binnsy at the moment i am in the south but i plan to travel north soon,as you know yourself the season starts soon.i plan to travel to bangkok on the 10th feb,you did say to me come to a buriram pea game,well as i understand your club are playing the opening game of the season away at B.E.C.TERO my question is do you travel with the club you speak so highly about,and if so is the invitation still open to join you and your friends.if so can you advise me as to where i can obtain a match day ticket.if you are not going i understand that chonburi play thai port and this is also a very attractive fixture,so please let me know what you are doing.and whatever that maybe thank you for the invitation,i must say everyone on here has been most kind and very helpful.
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« Reply #298 on: January 24, 2011, 08:18:46 PM » |
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it makes interesting reading still one thing i can see is people here are very passionate about the teams they support, i must say i do like that kind of support,but certainly don't want to get involved in political arguments.i see on the map that sisaket and buriram and khon kean are close,and that khon kean play buriram soon,but if i can obtain a ticket i will sit with the home fans of khon kean and not the buriram political party,thank you for all your help. I am a Buriram PEA fan simply because I happen to live in Buriram.If you have read some of the posts on here by a little click of people Buriram PEA is not a football team but a former politicians play thing.IMHO the only poster who has a proper grievence is NigB the reason i state this is because his family used to support PEA when they played in another Town.The rest well they could be the same person.Vinnie,Drury,Wolfie and Gregory(aka t_e). If you do visit Buriram you may have to get a visa for North Korea if you listen to those . Teams move about here and they take the name with them PEA is the Electric Company,TTM is the Tobacco Company. Buriram is a rural area and not a lot of money about(exept chinese) and the owner pays around 800 supporters/workers to attend match's for 100 baht per game and he is in the wrong.Thats up to you what you think but come to a Buriram PEA game and you will see good football.If not jump on the Muang Thong bandwagon whilst its on a roll. hi binnsy at the moment i am in the south but i plan to travel north soon,as you know yourself the season starts soon.i plan to travel to bangkok on the 10th feb,you did say to me come to a buriram pea game,well as i understand your club are playing the opening game of the season away at B.E.C.TERO my question is do you travel with the club you speak so highly about,and if so is the invitation still open to join you and your friends.if so can you advise me as to where i can obtain a match day ticket.if you are not going i understand that chonburi play thai port and this is also a very attractive fixture,so please let me know what you are doing.and whatever that maybe thank you for the invitation,i must say everyone on here has been most kind and very helpful. it seems i don't read very well because i have just noticed that the big game chonburi v thai port is on the 19th and not the 14th so it looks like i will be attending the B.E.C. TERO game regardless of your attendance or not binnsy.
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« Reply #299 on: January 25, 2011, 08:30:04 AM » |
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it seems i don't read very well because i have just noticed that the big game chonburi v thai port is on the 19th and not the 14th so it looks like i will be attending the B.E.C. TERO game regardless of your attendance or not binnsy.
I will be attending but I will not be able to get you a match ticket as when we go to the away games we pay 500 baht and that includes the travel there and back plus a match ticket.But if you decide to go along come and stand with the Buriram fans and have a beer/coke before the game.
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