Thai Port Thread

[lokomotive]

Yes, it is working. But only in IE 

But did you checked the schedule one the right? There is nothing mentioned about the game.

[lokomotive]

Yes, it is working. But only in IE 

But did you checked the schedule one the right? There is nothing mentioned about the game.

Let's hope the tv schedule at the side of the page is incorrect! The streaming works fine for me in firefox.

Thanks Marco, everything is working fine. I really have a nice stream.

[lokomotive]

What the hell was that at the end of the game? I was really shocked seeing this scenes. Was the game abondend at 80. Minute? NBT ended the broadcast than.

[the_englishman]

This is a sad day for Thai football and a devestating day for Thai Port. I'm about to write a full report.

[the_englishman]

This is a sad day for Thai football and a devestating day for Thai Port. I'm about to write a full report.

What an absolute disgrace!!

I'm so ashamed of (some) of our fans behaviour that I've taken my blog offline....possibly permanently.

Why can't people just go to the match and enjoy the football? F****** idiots!

Please don't take your blog offline mate.

My report is up:
http://muangthongunitedfc.blogspot.com/2010/02/innocence-has-gone-from-thai-football.html

[lokomotive]

This is a sad day for Thai football and a devestating day for Thai Port. I'm about to write a full report.

What an absolute disgrace!!

I'm so ashamed of (some) of our fans behaviour that I've taken my blog offline....possibly permanently.

Why can't people just go to the match and enjoy the football? F****** idiots!

Yes, don't take him off. It wouldn't makes sense. Rather it would be better to talk about what happened today, and mark it.

[Nigb]

from www.thaileaguefootball.com and www.thairath.co.th

A horror night for Thai football at the Kor Royal Cup. The match was abandoned in the 80th minute when Muang Thong scored their second goal and violence erupted in the crowd.

Thai Port players thought the 2nd goal should be disallowed due to a handball. The Thai Port fans started to throw bottles and fireworks into the ground. The match stopped and the situation got worse when a Thai Port fans broke the fence and attacked MTU fans, some jumped off the stand to run away.
 
With small group of policemen and security staff, the situation was uncontrollable. The fighting was getting bigger. Some Thai Port fans destroyed stadium property and were trying to burn down MTU flag.

Pichet Mankong, President of Thai Port FC asked the fans to stop the violence through stadium speaker and so did Thai Port players. It went on for approximately 30 minutes until Thai Port fans finally calmed.

President of Thai Port announced to take full responsibility. The team forfeited to Muang Thong United. Ong-art Kosinka, Secretary General, Football Authority of Thailand urges for a harsh penalty handed to Thai Port fans. There is possibility that Thai Port fans will be banned from the ground in future matches.

The video tapes of the match will be collected for consideration.

Reporters said some Thai Port fans carried weapons into the ground.

Sasom, the coach of Thai Port attempted to help the situation, but also momentarily lost is temper at the Muang Thong coach after a brief discussion with him.

Some Muang Thong fans have been injured as they were assaulted by groups of Thai Port fans, the extent of injuries are yet to be released. Almost a stampete occured as a result of Muang Thong fans escaping the conflict, but no injuries are reported yet.

The Thai football community await the response of the Football Association of Thailand. Many are calling for Thai Port to be banned from representing Thailand in the upcoming AFC Cup. Conflicts of this severity or scale have never before occurred at Thai football matches. The crowds are famed for their sporting and inclusive nature. As the popularity of Thai football booms this disastrous night brings a decisive moment for the way football will be run in Thailand.

[Nigb]

I have seen the footage on TV... shocking.
This needs to be stamped out properly, we don't need a big public FAT dance which will die down, we need systems put in place.

Good to hear you didn't bring your son and were not injured Greg. I have a feeling it could have been a lot worse. If there are no injuries this has been a good night to wake up some people.

Marco, don't take the blog off, this is a time it's needed for the 95% of Thai Port fans to talk about what can be done with the 5% of idiots.

Another consideration should be how this anger has been building up against Muang Thong. They have been working with the FAT and Siam Sport to control many decisions in the league which is wrong.

[the_englishman]

The MTU mesageboards are statating that two of the MTU cheerleaders have been stabbed. I have not seen any 'official' confirmation of this.

[Félix]

Did you see this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVTj5oC3--8&feature=player_embedded

[lokomotive]

from www.thaileaguefootball.com and www.thairath.co.th

Many are calling for Thai Port to be banned from representing Thailand in the upcoming AFC Cup.

In my opinion, that wouldn't be a good dicision. Cause it would hurt the whole Thai football in the end, resulting in penalties from the AFC.

Another consideration should be how this anger has been building up against Muang Thong. They have been working with the FAT and Siam Sport to control many decisions in the league which is wrong.

Even I don't like to say that, but that might could be a reason. And therefore the TPL should react asap and draw a clear border between Media and politics are able to run a club in Thailand.

[the_englishman]

Did you see this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVTj5oC3--8&feature=player_embedded

The big guy with glasses who pulled off his No.33 MTU shirt is the guy I was thinking of when I said to myself: "I wish he was stood next to me now" when it all flared up. He's a seriously big dude.

[the_englishman]

Another consideration should be how this anger has been building up against Muang Thong. They have been working with the FAT and Siam Sport to control many decisions in the league which is wrong.

Even I don't like to say that, but that might could be a reason. And therefore the TPL should react asap and draw a clear border between Media and politics are able to run a club in Thailand.

I think it's too early to talk about this yet. The problem is that such 'root causes' quickly become an excuse for morons to turn up and behave like the animals we saw today.

Look at the red and yellow shirt protesters in Bangkok over the last three years. How many of those guys wielding machetes, bottles and other weapons really knew about, cared for or wanted to discuss political reform in Thailand?

They wanted to smash somebody's head in without fear of reprisal, and we saw the exact same mob mentality yesterday. It started off as a few people and then a whole load more decided that they would start acting like hard men too, provided the other side was not fighting back and they had plenty of back up.

In any case, I cannot think of any incident that could have inspired MTU hatred to such a level. They won the league, the marketed themselves. Are we supposed to feel guilty for that now? And yes they may have had a few decisions in their favour. Do we really believe it was such bias that this tension built up? I never felt it, I think this was not the cause of yesterday's problems.

Would the Thai FA be able to install BEC Tero - as runners up from the FA Cup - in place of Thai Port in the AFC Cup?

[the_englishman]

I would create a new thread for this major event but the mods always merge my new threads.

Today's Bangkok Post front page article:
http://bangkokpost.com/news/sports/33257/violence-mars-king-trophy-match

[Vinnie]

We seem to have been headed towards this moment for the past year or so. I think back to Chonburi at PEA, Pattaya at Rayong, Rayong v BKK Glass and other incidents, each more serious than that which preceded it.
I imagine the FAT will hand out a pretty severe punishment. The standard 30,000 baht fine for crowd misbehaviour seems incongruous here.
As has been said in previous posts, the police/security staff just don't have a clue how to deal with large football crowds. And, as Marco pointed out, threats were being made on Internet forums in the run-up to the match. These cyber threats are monitored and taken seriously in Europe, but the police here are light years away from that kind of policing.

[alldo]

Very sad day but your right vinnie it has been coming it started last year they must deal with it this time or we will see more not good police just stand and watch  big fines and chuck them out afc cup disgrace.

[Nigb]

The punishment handed out should not be for what happened last night, but to kill this violent culture.
I quite like Thai Port, but I hope that somehow we will not see them in the Premier League this year. It may seem a bit harsh and not sure if it's possible but would like to see them relegated to division 1 with a big deduction of points. This is the only way we can start the season with the feeling that there is no place for this, otherwise there will always be the fear of this and it could become part of the game.

[the_englishman]

If anybody gets a blow up photo of the fat guy or the guy in shades who seemed to be a ringleader in stealing the MTU banners and got his mates to scare the security guards away from him, please email them to me so I can put them on my kick bags. What a real hard guy he is.....when his face is hidden.

[BangkokGlassBunny]

I have just returned from a BG fanclub meeting and as things stand Bangkok Glass will NOT be taking any fans to the PAT for the opening fixture and any other match against Thai Port, regardless of punishment or not to Thai Port.

I don't know whether I support this stance or not, as while I completely understand that BG are concerned about it's fans safety and obviously don't want to be embroiled into something themselves, I do however think this is also letting the few mindless morons win.

I wonder if other clubs will do the same?

[the_englishman]

I have just returned from a BG fanclub meeting and as things stand Bangkok Glass will NOT be taking any fans to the PAT for the opening fixture and any other match against Thai Port, regardless of punishment or not to Thai Port.

I don't know whether I support this stance or not, as while I completely understand that BG are concerned about it's fans safety and obviously don't want to be embroiled into something themselves, I do however think this is also letting the few mindless morons win.

I wonder if other clubs will do the same?

Good point, but I'm not sure I agree. By sending the message that nobody trusts the security and safety at Thai Port, the club as a whole lose face. As we know, that's a powerful message to send in Thailand.

It may well be announced that TP must play some games behind closed doors anyway. Perhaps they will even be demoted. Then I would face the same concerns as a Raj fan, though.

Here is a clip of a small minority of TPA fans showing their disagreement with the alleged bias towards Muangthong United by stealing a banner lovingly made by some peaceful, powerless and innocent fans, then burning it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVnQihmsTwI

[lokomotive]

Here is a clip of a small minority of TPA fans showing their disagreement with the alleged bias towards Muangthong United by stealing a banner lovingly made by some peaceful, powerless and innocent fans, then burning it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVnQihmsTwI

The guy in the suit, right at the end of the clip, who took away the Ultra banner, was it Sasom? It looks like him.

[the_englishman]

There officer, that's the man who hit me after I ran onto the pitch to attack him!


My friend the fat man, the first person I saw to rush us. Though he can't move that quickly of course. Sorry we couldn't meet under fairer rules fatty but then you wouldn't have played, would you?



The silver lining here is that these guys are obviously not the sharpest tools in the box and have made themselves easy to identify apart from the guy in shades.

[Vinnie]

I have just returned from a BG fanclub meeting and as things stand Bangkok Glass will NOT be taking any fans to the PAT for the opening fixture and any other match against Thai Port, regardless of punishment or not to Thai Port.

I don't know whether I support this stance or not, as while I completely understand that BG are concerned about it's fans safety and obviously don't want to be embroiled into something themselves, I do however think this is also letting the few mindless morons win.

I wonder if other clubs will do the same?

Good point, but I'm not sure I agree. By sending the message that nobody trusts the security and safety at Thai Port, the club as a whole lose face. As we know, that's a powerful message to send in Thailand.

It may well be announced that TP must play some games behind closed doors anyway. Perhaps they will even be demoted. Then I would face the same concerns as a Raj fan, though.

Here is a clip of a small minority of TPA fans showing their disagreement with the alleged bias towards Muangthong United by stealing a banner lovingly made by some peaceful, powerless and innocent fans, then burning it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVnQihmsTwI

I think something big is going to happen. The prime minister got involved by commenting on it during his weekly public address. On the news yesterday they showed officials viewing the footage.
 
I've got to say, the sight of the two coaches finding the time to get involved in an argument in the middle of this chaos was absolutely fu*king disgraceful.

The strangest thing about all this is how quickly these people have become 'hooliganised'. I mean, most, or more likely, all, have been supporting 'their' club for less than a year and yet they already have such hatred for their opposite numbers that they are prepared to inflict terrible violence on each other.

I had a wonderful day out in Klong Toey in the FA Cup quarter-final and can't believe this is the same set of fans. That said, I'd definitely go again if we were drawn away to TP this season. I imagine the matches between TP and Muang Thong will be home fans only for this season at least, though.

Finally, I note 'Mr Pointy' in the first photo is wearing a Buddha amulet. Nice touch.

[the_englishman]

Strange that Sriracha Shark has not commented on all this at any time. Makes me wonder what he's thinking.

[Nigb]

some press release today at 5pm live from the PAT stadium. Fans have been invited to join and take part. some more updates under "Kor Royal Cup Incident - News Updates" on www.thaileaguefootball.com

[BangkokGlassBunny]

Apparently according to fans on Pantip and translation from my wife..

Pongpipat Kamnuan, Thai Port number 17 was encouraging the violence throughout and was even signing autographs to thugs whilst they were burning the MTU flag.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w263/tctc22/S8905172-57.jpg

http://www.pantip.com/cafe/supachalasai/topic/S8905172/S8905172.html

[lokomotive]

Strange that Sriracha Shark has not commented on all this at any time. Makes me wonder what he's thinking.

I wonder too.

[the_englishman]

Apparently according to fans on Pantip and translation from my wife..

Pongpipat Kamnuan, Thai Port number 17 was encouraging the violence throughout and was even signing autographs to thugs whilst they were burning the MTU flag.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w263/tctc22/S8905172-57.jpg

http://www.pantip.com/cafe/supachalasai/topic/S8905172/S8905172.html

My first thought was "ban this POS for the season". On second thoughts, he may have been trying to calm the thugs down and distract them. I didn't see him encourage the violence ay any time.

[the_englishman]

I'm not overjoyed about MTU threatening not to play Thai Port next season if they are 'not punished enough'. I'm also not overjoyed about the apology to the 'sponsors'.
It would have been far better to hold such discussions in private and announce any response after the FA handed out a punishment.

[druryfire]

Reading todays BKK: http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/sports/33356/port-apologise-for-crowd-disturbance

Can't quite believe that TP are trying to excuse themselves by pointing out who was in charge of security and blaming the 'mafia'.

To bring a football game into disrepute and then try to blame everyone else is a cowards way out. To gain any repsect from this, the TP management should put there hands up, take the punishment and send out a strong message that they will do all they can to put a stop to it.

I also feel for the good guys at TP. Their club seemed to be going in the right direction on and off the field and one single game has ruined it.

It seem's the boom may stop if clubs don't carry on as normal. It's time to get back to normality and FAT to give out a stern punihsment that maybe effects the TP fans rather than the TP club. Ban the fans from home games (i can't see how they ban away games) and punish TP that way. Don't fine them, thats the last thing we need.

s for Bkk Glass vowing not to go to the game, well, if that happens, then the TP  bad boys win. Simply don't go if TP aren't allowed to go. Don't let the badboys win. Show them that Thai football carries on regardless of thugary.

[jakartacasual]

oi marco i can t access your blog...

[the_englishman]

oi marco i can t access your blog...

Marco's closed off his blog for the moment. I'm hoping he'll open it again soon.

There's a common misperception that the guys walking around looking lost and doing nothing were cops. Actually, I saw no cops at the game. Those guys were security guards.

To be fair, even Thai cops would have done a bit more to help than those guys.

[Vinnie]

Who are the ones in the funny shaped hats? I always thought they were military police. Presumably they are in the stadium for a reason: to ensure the public safety and deal with any incidents if and when they occur. Obviously, the incidents were too big for them to properly deal with but do they really need to stand back and watch like ice-hockey referees?

[lokomotive]

Who are the ones in the funny shaped hats? I always thought they were military police. Presumably they are in the stadium for a reason: to ensure the public safety and deal with any incidents if and when they occur. Obviously, the incidents were too big for them to properly deal with but do they really need to stand back and watch like ice-hockey referees?

according to Post article, they should have been MP's.

[charade_2010]

Better prepared to take on Thai team : Duc

BANGKOK: Da Nang coach Le Huynh Duc stressed the experience of the AFC Champions League play-off defeat to Muangthong United will stand his men in good stead when they kick-off their AFC Cup campaign against Thai Port on Wednesday.

Da Nang suffered a 3-0 home defeat to the Thai Premier League side at the end of last month that saw them take up a place in Asia's second continental competition.

And Huynh Duc believes that has now made them a stronger proposition when they take on another Thai team in the form of Thai Port in Group H at the Supachalasai Stadium.

"Last month we played Muangthong United and we lost," he said.

"We were not well prepared but we got some experience and we are better prepared this time."

As such, the Da Nang chief has highlighted he has targeted a successful start to their campaign.

"The team wants to win," Huynh Duc added.

"No one wants to come here just to lose.

"We talked before we came here and we said 'we need to get three points'.”

However, Huynh Duc was keeping his cards close to his chest when asked as to how his side would achieve their stated objective, saying simply that "the team will show it on the field."

Thai Port's last home game was marred by crowd trouble in a Kor Royal Cup game against Muangthong United but Da Nang's manager was unconcerned there would be any repeat of those scenes on Wednesday night.

"I know that there were some problems but I don't know what happened," he said.

"But I am sure that we have a good relationship. I think no problems will happen."

Meanwhile, Thai Port coach Wattana Phochanakong has promised his side will also be gunning for three points against the Vietnamese side as they also look to get their AFC Cup bid off to a flying start.

"The Thai Port team has our own system of always playing interesting and nice games," said Wattana.

"But at the same time we are more of an attacking team. So we will attack tomorrow (Wednesday)."

Source : http://www.the-afc.com/en/afc-cup-2010/27243-better-prepared-to-take-on-thai-team-duc

[Nigb]

I'm not overjoyed about MTU threatening not to play Thai Port next season if they are 'not punsihed enough'. I'm also not overjoyed about the apology to the 'sponsors'.
It would have been far better to hold such discussions in private and announce any response after the FA handed out a punishment.

You can understand that they want to let the FAT know this is a serious matter and a crucial decision for the FAT. 


 In a way I am thinking that we have Thai Ports future on one side and the future of Thai football on the other, which one do you choose?
...and no points penalty or cash penalty will influence these idiots who lack self control and self respect.

The cycle of attacks and revenge attacks can't begin.
for starters how about relocating the club to Thammasat stadium or Thupademi (a good 45 minute drive away from PAT) or something, at least for 6 months or so. Also relegation would be a good message, kills off the sponsors and probably many fans so they need to start again.

[the_englishman]

From the aforementioned BP article:
"He said the fans who were believed to start the clash would be banned from PAT stadium for two or three matches."

WTF???!!!! News flash you idiot, football hooligans get banned for LIFE! Not two or three games!!!

[the_englishman]

I'm not overjoyed about MTU threatening not to play Thai Port next season if they are 'not punsihed enough'. I'm also not overjoyed about the apology to the 'sponsors'.
It would have been far better to hold such discussions in private and announce any response after the FA handed out a punishment.

You can understand that they want to let the FAT know this is a serious matter and a crucial decision for the FAT. 


 In a way I am thinking that we have Thai Ports future on one side and the future of Thai football on the other, which one do you choose?
...and no points penalty or cash penalty will influence these idiots who lack self control and self respect.

The cycle of attacks and revenge attacks can't begin.
for starters how about relocating the club to Thammasat stadium or Thupademi (a good 45 minute drive away from PAT) or something, at least for 6 months or so. Also relegation would be a good message, kills off the sponsors and probably many fans so they need to start again.

After reading that BP article I support the idea of relegating TP. Sorry about that Marco and the numerous other perfectly decent TP fans.

It's a disgarce what the owner of Thai Port said. "I can shoulder responsibility BUT...." is a classic politician's line and he then goes on to blame the 'mafia'. I somehow doubt that a rich Thai man who owns a football club and invests millions in it is without 'Jao Pho' connections himself. Reflecting your own weaknesses onto others is another classic political trick.

Finally he goes on to basically condone the violence by banning fans for "two or three" games. Disgusting.

The response to this has to be the very strongest possible.


*****************************************************************************************
This Siam Sport article says six fans have given themselves up (i.e. were not arrested) to the police.
http://www.siamsport.co.th/Sport_Football/100223_120.html

I can't understand what, if anything, will happen to them next. Can anyone translate?

So it's been four full days now and we've had no arrests, no punishment dealt out by the FA and no plan to prevent this happening next season (starting in three weeks) other than throwing some cash at the problem.

I predicted the powers that would be would deal firmly with this problem because they want to keep their new cash cow healthy. Now I'm starting to wonder if they understand how serious this problem is. Take action now guys. If you don't your cash cow could get very sick. Once it's dead, you can't revive it.

[Vinnie]

I'm not overjoyed about MTU threatening not to play Thai Port next season if they are 'not punsihed enough'. I'm also not overjoyed about the apology to the 'sponsors'.
It would have been far better to hold such discussions in private and announce any response after the FA handed out a punishment.

You can understand that they want to let the FAT know this is a serious matter and a crucial decision for the FAT. 


 In a way I am thinking that we have Thai Ports future on one side and the future of Thai football on the other, which one do you choose?
...and no points penalty or cash penalty will influence these idiots who lack self control and self respect.

The cycle of attacks and revenge attacks can't begin.
for starters how about relocating the club to Thammasat stadium or Thupademi (a good 45 minute drive away from PAT) or something, at least for 6 months or so. Also relegation would be a good message, kills off the sponsors and probably many fans so they need to start again.

But can you relegate them when the incidents didn't occur in a TPL game or at the PAT Stadium? I was as shocked as everyone else but we have to make sure the punishment is logical and fits the crime.
Banning Thai Port fans from travelling to away games all season would be appropriate but not practical as you can just pay on the day at every ground and easily sneak in.
If it were up to me I would go for playing all potential 'flashpoint' home matches behind closed doors (v MTU, Chonburi, Pattaya, Navy Rayong) and very lengthy bans for those involved in the trouble.

[lokomotive]

I'm not overjoyed about MTU threatening not to play Thai Port next season if they are 'not punsihed enough'. I'm also not overjoyed about the apology to the 'sponsors'.
It would have been far better to hold such discussions in private and announce any response after the FA handed out a punishment.

You can understand that they want to let the FAT know this is a serious matter and a crucial decision for the FAT. 


 In a way I am thinking that we have Thai Ports future on one side and the future of Thai football on the other, which one do you choose?
...and no points penalty or cash penalty will influence these idiots who lack self control and self respect.

The cycle of attacks and revenge attacks can't begin.
for starters how about relocating the club to Thammasat stadium or Thupademi (a good 45 minute drive away from PAT) or something, at least for 6 months or so. Also relegation would be a good message, kills off the sponsors and probably many fans so they need to start again.

But can you relegate them when the incidents didn't occur in a TPL game or at the PAT Stadium? I was as shocked as everyone else but we have to make sure the punishment is logical and fits the crime.
Banning Thai Port fans from travelling to away games all season would be appropriate but not practical as you can just pay on the day at every ground and easily sneak in.
If it were up to me I would go for playing all potential 'flashpoint' home matches behind closed doors (v MTU, Chonburi, Pattaya, Navy Rayong) and very lengthy bans for those involved in the trouble.

I totally agree Vinnie. If FAT is making punishments and give penaltys, we like to look to other countries and how it is handeld there, e.g. the Pattaya vs Sriracha match. Considering it for TPFC, I can't remember any club who was relgeated because of such issues. Therefore, a clear no!! Leave them in the TPL. Ban the guys who started it for 3-5 years from all grounds in Thailand ( I know it is not possible), a heavy money fine for TPFC, a few games in front of an empty ground. That should be ok.

[lokomotive]

TPFC lost 2:3 in the end, after they went ahead 1:0 in the 17. Minute.

[jakartacasual]

games are forever being played in front of empty stadiums here in indonesia and the fact that they still are suggests it don t work.

at the end of the day it needs coopertion from government, police and football but it took england decades, and a few deaths, to take any meaningful action, the italians still haven t so get off your high horses and live with it

[jakartacasual]

oi marco i can t access your blog...

Marco's closed off his blog for the moment.

that s a bit drama queen ish innit? if i d have given up on something after a few slaps i d be looking back on a life short on excitement but high in the value of my stamp collection and content in the knowledge i can recite the whole of the life of brian in six languages

[bon-nirnam]

It's a learning curve for a would be professional football community.

The disapointment is, however, that the organizer did not have preventive measure for the incidence despite all indication such as H2O bottles throwing in the past.

The Kingdom was once pround itself for ability to abolish slavery without incidence faced by Ibrahim Lincoln in America. But that was literally history. Even a small suburban temple had a better security plan for its carneval in the middle of rainy season.

[jakartacasual]

that s a bit drama queen ish innit? if i d have given up on something after a few slaps i d be looking back on a life short on excitement but high in the value of my stamp collection and content in the knowledge i can recite the whole of the life of brian in six languages

Keep up old bean! I've been back online since yesterday  .

You know what Scousers are like...we love a bit of drama! Did you never watch Brookside? 

good. nope, never watched brookside. worreid enough on my trips there in real life so never felt the need to watch the place on tv as well!

[druryfire]

400 at todays game. So all these were farang?

[SriRachaShark]

I'm guessing that there were probably a fair number of "away" fans in the 400.

[SriRachaShark]

that s a bit drama queen ish innit? if i d have given up on something after a few slaps i d be looking back on a life short on excitement but high in the value of my stamp collection and content in the knowledge i can recite the whole of the life of brian in six languages

Keep up old bean! I've been back online since yesterday  .

You know what Scousers are like...we love a bit of drama! Did you never watch Brookside? 

good. nope, never watched brookside. worreid enough on my trips there in real life so never felt the need to watch the place on tv as well!

I never really got into Brookie either. However, Boys From The Blacksuff was wonderful. It also has a strong connection to Thai football. Anybody know what it is?

[jakartacasual]

steve darby was an extra?

marco's house was shown in a scene?

alan bleasdale is a hard core s.e.t fan?

[SriRachaShark]

steve darby was an extra?
No.

marco's house was shown in a scene?
Not that I'm aware of.

alan bleasdale is a hard core s.e.t fan?
No but it does have something to do with Alan Bleasedale.