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From the mouth of Worawi Makudi "If we can't win the title [Suzuki Cup] it will be a failure because we are kings of football in the region."
Is this kind of outburst really helpful? If I were coach of Singapore, Vietnam etc then I would just write Worawi's words on the dressing room wall and say 'there's your motivation lads'.
Unhelpful, counter-productive, disrespectful and arrogant.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 04:07:52 PM » |
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it s just the kind of empty sloganeering these guys always come up with. the malaysians are at it, the indonesian...
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 04:26:39 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2008, 05:49:57 PM » |
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I agree with Mr Worawi Makudi but he shouldn't have said that in public . AFF Suzuki Cup 2008 is a real test Thailand before they can join in the top of Asia .
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2008, 10:39:56 PM » |
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Vinnie..Im not agree with u on this one...he could say those kind of stuff as long as it still true ...Singapore coach and their FA boss address their team as no1 in ASEAN everytime in the interview despite the fact that 90% of the team are naturalized players...FIFA already after Singapore and start to punished Singapore on this issue....
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2008, 01:32:24 AM » |
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About Singapore, i feel sorry for the" local players". They are ignored and are substituted by naturalized players. Very disapointed if i was them.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 06:11:14 AM » |
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Are you still planning to come over, JC?
no. my flight first thing tomorrow has been cancelled and anyway having to be at work tuesday morning means i would have had to miss the last game on monday night... |
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2008, 07:57:04 PM » |
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From the mouth of Worawi Makudi "If we can't win the title [Suzuki Cup] it will be a failure because we are kings of football in the region."
Is this kind of outburst really helpful? If I were coach of Singapore, Vietnam etc then I would just write Worawi's words on the dressing room wall and say 'there's your motivation lads'.
Unhelpful, counter-productive, disrespectful and arrogant.
When is this guy going to learn? He has to realize that hiring Reid is a quick fixed not a long term plan (otherwise he would have done so a long time ago considering coaches Chanvit went up against at Asian Cup stage). Had Reid carrying his former personality with him, he would have said, 'Shut the F_ck up!' Let me do my job for christ sake! Saying anything to motivate opposing teams is what Thailand don't need all things considered. |
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2009, 07:19:35 PM » |
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I've just read his latest spoutings: "we should win the King's Cup; we should win the SEA Games title; we should qualify for the Asian Cup" etc etc yawn yawn.
Go away Worawi until you've got something useful to say.
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2009, 07:35:01 PM » |
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Please sympathize with Worawi . Thailand have to do those things this year to affirm their forces , strength in ASEAN and the AFF SUZUKI CUP 2008 failure is just unlucky . I quitely believe that Thailand could do well 3 tasks . However , you dislike him because he is a " Big Phil " president ?  |
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 10:36:23 AM » |
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2009, 01:24:21 PM » |
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Please sympathize with Worawi . Thailand have to do those things this year to affirm their forces , strength in ASEAN and the AFF SUZUKI CUP 2008 failure is just unlucky . I quitely believe that Thailand could do well 3 tasks . However , you dislike him because he is a " Big Phil " president ? Thailand should indeed be striving for those things but I just don't see the use of Worawi constantly coming out and saying 'Thailand should win this, Thailand should win that' etc Anyone would think he only does it to keep his profile up and his name in the papers or am I just being cynical? I'm threatening to stop posting on here as a protest against the quality of Worawi's statements |
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2009, 02:14:20 PM » |
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If I were to react to everything the guy have said, I would have walked like a true freeman everyday for he has provided me with satisfied venue to release my sarcasm.
But, I am a Thai guy who despite having been living in the West for half of my life but still rrather humble when it comes to expressing my thoughts.
Why oh why a man of his stature keeps putting socks in his mouth.
I guess this is what happen when you surrounded with people who willing to say nothing but 'Yes sir!' and 'how high?'
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2009, 04:07:50 AM » |
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Worawi Makudi was re-elected president of the Football Association of Thailand (FAT) for a second term yesterday.
He was the only candidate and no voters objected his nomination. He will be in office for another two years.
Worawi, who is also a Fifa executive member, said he would push Thailand to become one of Asia's leading sides and secure their first-ever World Cup appearance.
He also believes the Thai Premier League will be able to stand on its own without funds from the government in the next few years.http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/sports/14325/worawi-keeps-fat-rolePersonally, I can't believe that nobody else tried to oppose him. I can only hope that since he has been unopposed, then nobody (someone with power anyway, we are ok) should come out and slate him for his next 2 year term. Disappointing that nobody else had the bottle to challenge him and really push other ideas into the game.
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2009, 05:22:18 PM » |
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the guy in indonesia was also re elected unopposed. these are politicos and everything they do is about scratching each others back, keeping them sweet
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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2009, 02:08:05 PM » |
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Worawi Makudi was re-elected president of the Football Association of Thailand (FAT) for a second term yesterday.
He was the only candidate and no voters objected his nomination. He will be in office for another two years.
Worawi, who is also a Fifa executive member, said he would push Thailand to become one of Asia's leading sides and secure their first-ever World Cup appearance.
He also believes the Thai Premier League will be able to stand on its own without funds from the government in the next few years.http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/sports/14325/worawi-keeps-fat-rolePersonally, I can't believe that nobody else tried to oppose him. I can only hope that since he has been unopposed, then nobody (someone with power anyway, we are ok) should come out and slate him for his next 2 year term. Disappointing that nobody else had the bottle to challenge him and really push other ideas into the game. I think Vinnie was up for it but as it coincided with the birth of his first child he was unable to get to the elections ; ) Which is a shame as he would have had the backing of all the posters on here : ) |
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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2009, 04:36:18 PM » |
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Indeed. And my first piece of legislation would be that all teams with 20,000+ all-seater stadiums be fast-tracked into the TPL. |
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2009, 05:11:27 AM » |
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Hi Guys,
How can I or somebody candidate for Thai Football President ?
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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2009, 12:40:02 PM » |
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From todays BKK Post.
Politics hang over Asian soccer bosses
By: WANCHAI RUJAWONGSANTI
Published: 20/05/2009 at 12:00 AM
Newspaper section: SportsAsian Football Federation president Mohammed Bin Hammam narrowly retained his seat on the Fifa executive committee earlier this month.
The Qatari defeated Bahrain's Sheikh Salman bin Ebrahim Al Khalifa 23-21 in a vote at an AFC Congress in Kuala Lumpur. There were two invalid ballots.
Bin Hammam is facing a tough battle as AFC boss because the organisation is hit by a rift.
He knows too well that he is up against powerful opponents led by South Korea, Kuwait, Japan and Saudi Arabia.
While the 60-year-old Qatari survived this month's power struggle, he could face a tougher challenge to remain as AFC president when his current term ends in 2011.
His detractors include people who have both power and money such as Fifa vice-president Chung Mong-Joon of South Korea and Sheikh Ahmad Al-Fahad Al-Sabah, president of the Kuwait Football Association.
Chung, who said bin Hammam had mental problems, is the major shareholder of Hyundai Heavy Industries, the world's biggest shipyard.
Sheikh Ahamad Al-Sabah is more powerful in sports as president of the Olympic Council of Asia (OCA) - the continent's equivalent to the International Olympic Committee (IOC).
It is believed that Worawi Makudi, president of the Football Association of Thailand (FAT), voted for bin Hammam.
It is always good if you side with the winner.
However, Worawi, who has said that he is interested in becoming AFC president when bin Hammam steps down, has to be careful with his next move in the political side of football for his own career and his country's benefit.
His term as Fifa executive committee member will expire in 2011 and he could lose the position if he is in the wrong group in the power wrangle.
A politician who has failed to get elected to Parliament, Worawi looks smart in football politics.
It was reported that before the vote to select the host of the 2006 World Cup, Fifa president Sepp Blatter urged Worawi and other Asian representatives to back South Africa.
However, Worawi first voted for England probably to pay back the English FA for sending former England striker Peter Withe to coach the Thai national team. When England were eliminated, he then voted for Germany which won the right to organise the 2006 finals by a single vote.
Thailand has since received assistance from both countries. Former England midfielder Peter Reid is Thailand's coach thanks to help from the English FA while German football supremo Franz Beckenbauer has visited Thailand a couple of times.
Worawi is believed to have voted for Blatter in elections for Fifa president. He is reportedly a candidate for a Fifa vice president seat if he can survive the Asian football politics.
Meanwhile, there was good news for Thai football last week when Australian league side Melbourne Victory signed Thailand international Surat Sukha from Chonburi FC.
Surat will be the first Thai to play in the A-League when their season begins in August.
The weather there should not be a problem for Thais although Surat has to adapt himself to other conditions.
While football is much less popular in Australia than the likes of Aussie rules football, rugby and cricket, matches there often enjoy considerable crowds as I have seen on TV.
The midfielder may help open the door for other Thai players to play in Australia which could be a new destination for our players apart from Vietnam and Singapore.
There are some Thai players who are considered better than Surat and they may soon receive offers from an Australian side.As most Thai players are not good enough to play in Europe's top leagues, playing in Australia with an annual income of over two million baht is quite good. In fact, Thai players who play in a farang country may gain more respect from their compatriots who play in neighbouring countries.
Wanchai Rujawongsanti is the Bangkok Post's Sports Editor.
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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2009, 12:48:42 PM » |
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The politics of football's governing bodies never fails to astonish. I'm all for Thais going to play in Australia. They're not too far away that they can't return for internationals and the standard must surely be at least as good as the Belgian second division. |
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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2009, 05:01:22 PM » |
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remember that jao havelunge guy who ran fifa for decade?
next of vipers run each federation
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2009, 01:15:43 AM » |
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We should all get behind Worawi, strangly he seems to have some clout in the world game - not bad for a guy who didn't really help the domestic game until this years re-shuffle.
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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2009, 07:44:26 PM » |
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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2009, 01:51:27 PM » |
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« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2009, 07:24:00 PM » |
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WORAWI READY TO STEP DOWN AS THAI FA PRESIDENT VIENTIANE (16 Dec 2009) – Worawi Makudi, president of the FA of Thailand, said that he is ready to step down from his post if the majority voice would like him to go following the U23 team's disastrous exit in men's football of the 25th SEA Games.
"This failure's the most disappointment to all Thais. We'd high expectation before the tournament that we would win the gold for ninth successive time. But, the competition in the Games is not easy as anyone thought. All other teams wanted to beat us,” said Worawi.
"I'd tried to remind the players that every second in the game is critical. We needed to keep our focus until the end. It's a costly experience for us.
"Regarding on the call from some group who wanted me to resign, I'm a kind of person who wasn't attached to the position. So, I'm willing to consider myself if the majority of fans want me to leave or deem that I'm not suitable for the job.”
Thailand’s reign as eight consecutive champions of the SEA Games came crashing down last week when the team conceded a 2-1 loss to Malaysia in a crucial game of Group A which saw their exit from the tournament.
It was the first time in 36 years that the Thais had failed to reach the semi-finals stage.
Following the loss in Laos, the Thai team is now preparing for the 2011 Asian Cup qualifiers next month.
"Initially, we would have a training camp after the Games as several members of the team played for the Under23 side in Laos,” he added.
"Now, we've to move forward our training programme. Tomorrow, (national coach Bryan) Robson would return to the country, so the preparation might start right away. I'm still confident we could score at least four points from the remaining two Cup qualifiers.” |
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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2009, 01:09:13 AM » |
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Typical, just after getting re-elected this year for another 2 year term and he now decides it is time.
Who's to take over now? No one was in the frame last time around, so why should there be anyone this time?
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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2009, 05:28:57 AM » |
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my proposal, the lad how is responsible for the TPL, and whom you had in an interview. but maybe you have a differetn feeling as you did talk to him personally.
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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2009, 06:03:14 AM » |
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Regarding on the call from some group who wanted me to resign, I'm a kind of person who wasn't attached to the position.
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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2009, 11:28:36 AM » |
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So, getting his ass kicked is how to get him motivated.
Alright then. Lets hurry and form a single file.... At-tennnnnn tion!
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« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2009, 04:09:11 PM » |
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WORAWI WAGS CASH INCENTIVE
BANGKOK (29 Dec 2009) – FA of Thailand president Worawi Makudi has offered cash incentives to fuel the national team’s desire for a place in the 2011 Asian Cup finals which will be held in Qatar.
“I will give them more cash if they qualify for the Asian Cup finals,” said Worawi.
The Thais are third in Group E of the qualifiers with five points and with two games remaining.
Iran are at the top of the table with seven points, Singapore on second with six points while Jordan are at the bottom of the group with four points.
Only the top two teams advance to the 2011 finals.
Thailand’s next match will be against Jordan on 6 January 2010 at the Rajamangala National Stadium before traveling to Iran for their final qualifying match.
Worawi is already set to give 1 million baht (USD30,000) as a morale booster to the team prior to the game against Jordan, where head coach Bryan Robson is looking to win four points from the last two qualifyiers.
And as a tune-up for these two crucial encounters, Thailand will be playing Zimbabwe in a friendly later today at the Thai-Japanese Stadium in Din Daeng.
"We will test what we have worked on against Zimbabwe," said Robson.
In the meantime, Singapore held Oman to a scoreless draw in the friendly that was played last night at the Bishan Stadium. But Singapore should have walked away with the win had Mustafic Fahrudin converted a penalty in the 39th minute. The draw was a marked improvement for Singapore who suffered their worst defeat against the same opponent in a World Cup qualifying match in 2004 with a 7-0 beating in Muscat. The Lions will play Oman again on 31 Dec 2009 at the same venue. |
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« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2010, 07:09:27 PM » |
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Worawi...if you read this.. please not that i'm still waiting for you to resign. I assume your currently working your notice?
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« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2010, 03:47:17 AM » |
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So, he thinks that Thailand NT is in this predigament due to lack of money insentive.
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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2010, 05:54:21 PM » |
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WORAWI WANTS SIMULTANEOUS KICK-OFF TIME BANGKOK (16 Feb 2010) – Datuk Worawi Makudi, the president of the Football Association of Thailand (FAT), has asked the Asian Football Confederation (AFC) to make sure that the last 2011 Asian Cup qualifying matches in Group E be played simultaneously.
The final matches in Group E of the 2011 Asian Cup qualifiers will be between Iran and Thailand and Jordan and Singapore.
In the original schedule for the final matches of Group E, Thailand play Iran in Teheran at 3pm local time (6.30pm Thai time) and Jordan host Singapore in Amman at 6pm local time (11pm Thai time).
Iran have already qualified for the 2011 finals and the other three teams are fighting for the remaining berth.
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2010, 09:23:23 PM » |
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« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2010, 04:26:59 PM » |
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Worawi backs Thailand Worawi Makudi, president of the Football Association of Thailand, insists the kingdom can host the World Cup.
A Fifa executive member, Worawi was a match commissioner at the 2010 World Cup in South Africa.
He said yesterday that judging from what he saw in South Africa he believed Thailand was capable of hosting the World Cup.
"I think we can even do it better than South Africa in almost everything," he said. "The only thing we don't have is big stadiums."
A host country must have at least 10 stadiums each with a capacity of at least 40,000. Worawi said Thailand and Malaysia may jointly bid for the World Cup with each country building five stadiums.
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« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2010, 04:32:12 PM » |
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« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2010, 04:45:17 PM » |
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He just wanted to tell us that he's been on holiday to South Africa, thats all.
World Cup in Thailand. No chance. A lot of bribery would need to go on to have any chance of it happening.
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« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2010, 05:00:29 PM » |
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« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2010, 05:21:22 PM » |
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« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2010, 07:04:50 AM » |
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so its possible then
indonesia and malaysia have discussed a joint bod as well but why think about 2026 when most of football in this region cant think beyond the end of the month
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Talking of Worwai, I thought he was hands on to give England his vote for 2018 World Cup after getting the friendly and all, but strong rumours on other forums suggest he has got a deal with Spain for 2018 and Qatar for 22!
Apparently Spain have become strong favorites after doing some backstabbing and Qatar have just paid everyone.
Worwai has also put himself forward for re-election at the AFC elections in January with Bin Hamman favorite (currently unchallenged) to keep his seat as President. If only someone challenged him, Thailand might have gotten a ACL spot.
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Talking of Worwai, I thought he was hands on to give England his vote for 2018 World Cup after getting the friendly and all, but strong rumours on other forums suggest he has got a deal with Spain for 2018 and Qatar for 22!
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Talking of Worwai, I thought he was hands on to give England his vote for 2018 World Cup after getting the friendly and all, but strong rumours on other forums suggest he has got a deal with Spain for 2018 and Qatar for 22!
If that's true then expect then England will surely pull out of the friendly. A similar thing happened with the Thai FA and England in the 90's. They'd allegedly promised to vote for England to host in 2006 - part of Peter Withe's salary was paid for by the English FA as part of the deal - but, in the event, they voted for Germany. |
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« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2010, 04:29:59 PM » |
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I think 2/22 will be in Australia. I don't think Quatar is having a chance.
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« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2010, 05:35:12 PM » |
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I think 2/22 will be in Australia. I don't think Quatar is having a chance.
qatar has a very good chance. and that chance has an office in a south east asian country |
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lokomotive
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« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2010, 05:42:23 PM » |
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*lol*
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