Muang Thong United Thread

[Vinnie]

0 - 0 Vs Buriram PEA. Report to follow. When I have the energy.

I'll save you the trouble, t_e. You save your energy.

Pretty even first half. MT were on top on in the second. Entertaining overall. And a good result for us.

PEA 'fans' sell out their allocation?

[Nigb]

Are all these Buriram fans really getting paid to turn up? Does anyone know the "per head" figure? ....so we can do some maths here. I know he is a rich man but the drain on his "personal" expenses must be huge.

[Vinnie]

Are all these Buriram fans really getting paid to turn up? Does anyone know the "per head" figure? ....so we can do some maths here. I know he is a rich man but the drain on his "personal" expenses must be huge.

I agree that his initial outlay must be huge - he also said he would give ฿100,000 to the team for every goal they scored - but he has got a lot of big sponsors on board which presumably helps to cover the costs.
Something's going on with the fans, there can be no doubt about that. The club didn't exist a few months ago and they already have the biggest away support in the league. They literally half-filled Pattaya's ground.
It would be good if you could try and interview some of them the next time you're at one of their matches, Nige; find out what's really going on.

[SriRachaShark]

Are all these Buriram fans really getting paid to turn up? Does anyone know the "per head" figure? ....so we can do some maths here. I know he is a rich man but the drain on his "personal" expenses must be huge.

I agree that his initial outlay must be huge - he also said he would give ฿100,000 to the team for every goal they scored - but he has got a lot of big sponsors on board which presumably helps to cover the costs.
Something's going on with the fans, there can be no doubt about that. The club didn't exist a few months ago and they already have the biggest away support in the league. They literally half-filled Pattaya's ground.
It would be good if you could try and interview some of them the next time you're at one of their matches, Nige; find out what's really going on.

The club is probably recouping a lot of it back through selling merchandise.

I must admit that it does make me smile when I hear about "fans" being paid to go to matches. Over the years my dad has often said about Oldham, "I don't know about buying a season ticket. Those ****ers should be paying ME to go and watch them!"

It sounds like following PEA would suit him.

[Nigb]

Do you notice that all of the fans are wearing the exactly the same thing, sure they are supplied their working uniform.

Are all these Buriram fans really getting paid to turn up? Does anyone know the "per head" figure? ....so we can do some maths here. I know he is a rich man but the drain on his "personal" expenses must be huge.

I agree that his initial outlay must be huge - he also said he would give ฿100,000 to the team for every goal they scored - but he has got a lot of big sponsors on board which presumably helps to cover the costs.
Something's going on with the fans, there can be no doubt about that. The club didn't exist a few months ago and they already have the biggest away support in the league. They literally half-filled Pattaya's ground.
It would be good if you could try and interview some of them the next time you're at one of their matches, Nige; find out what's really going on.

The club is probably recouping a lot of it back through selling merchandise.

I must admit that it does make me smile when I hear about "fans" being paid to go to matches. Over the years my dad has often said about Oldham, "I don't know about buying a season ticket. Those ****ers should be paying ME to go and watch them!"

It sounds like following PEA would suit him.

yeah was thinking I was a bit hasty by dumping PEA now

[Vinnie]

Do you notice that all of the fans are wearing the exactly the same thing, sure they are supplied their working uniform.

You're right. Absolutely every single one of them. A particularly un-Thai dark colour.

[SriRachaShark]

Do you notice that all of the fans are wearing the exactly the same thing, sure they are supplied their working uniform.

You're right. Absolutely every single one of them. A particularly un-Thai dark colour.

To be fair, they're not the only Thai club that does this. Last season a very large percentage of MT fans were wearing exactly the same shirts. It is a question of choice. All those MT supporters had never been before last year so bought the only shirts that were available and I guess that PEA's followers are in the same boat.

Whereas at Chonburi you still get people turning up in shirts and t-shirts from 5 or 6 years ago therefore you have a much more interesting looking crowd.

[Vinnie]

Do you notice that all of the fans are wearing the exactly the same thing, sure they are supplied their working uniform.

You're right. Absolutely every single one of them. A particularly un-Thai dark colour.

To be fair, they're not the only Thai club that does this. Last season a very large percentage of MT fans were wearing exactly the same shirts. It is a question of choice. All those MT supporters had never been before last year so bought the only shirts that were available and I guess that PEA's followers are in the same boat.

Whereas at Chonburi you still get people turning up in shirts and t-shirts from 5 or 6 years ago therefore you have a much more interesting looking crowd.

I know of one grumpy, curmudgeon who doggedly wears his 2006 Korat shirt to every match!

[the_englishman]

Do you notice that all of the fans are wearing the exactly the same thing, sure they are supplied their working uniform.

Not just at Chonburi games. Literally anywhere you go in Thailand you can be sure of seeing at least one Chonburi shirt. Even now, there are several students at my school that support Chonburi. It's all I can do to stop myself marking them down :-)

The Buriram shirt is interesting, it seems to be a factory worker's style shirt in terms of fabric with logos not only on the front but across the back, making it resemble the Forumula One style of shirt.
I know Thai fans *love* to don team colours but this was remarkable, I've never seen a crowd with so few people not wearing the shirt. Literally, the number of non shirt wearers could be counted on one hand.
You're right. Absolutely every single one of them. A particularly un-Thai dark colour.

To be fair, they're not the only Thai club that does this. Last season a very large percentage of MT fans were wearing exactly the same shirts. It is a question of choice. All those MT supporters had never been before last year so bought the only shirts that were available and I guess that PEA's followers are in the same boat.

Whereas at Chonburi you still get people turning up in shirts and t-shirts from 5 or 6 years ago therefore you have a much more interesting looking crowd.

[TPF]

Separated at birth?? 

[lokomotive]

That is simply great!!

[SriRachaShark]

Brilliant!!

[TPF]

That is simply great!!

Brilliant!!

I knew he reminded me of someone...I just couldn't put my finger on it. We should refer to him as 'Worzel' from now on  .

[charade_2010]

Don’t dismiss Thais advises Autuori

Doha: Al Rayyan coach Paulo Autuori has warned his side not to take Muangthong United lightly as they prepare to face the Thai side in the AFC Cup Round of 16 at Al Rayyan Sports Stadium on Tuesday.

Al Rayyan go into the clash in high spirits having reached the final of Qatar's Emir Cup, seeing off AFC Champions League participants Al Gharafa and Al Sadd along the way.

With Afonso Alves and Fabio Cesar having fired them to the top of Group E, the hosts are expected to overcome a Muangthong side who finished runners-up in Group G even without defender Marcelo Tavares. Autuori, though, was keen to guard against complacency.

"It's a good thing for us to play at home against Muangthong and in front of our fans," said the Braziliam (pictured).

"But there are no easy matches even though many think that this game is very easy for us.

"We must play strongly and our target will be to win the game against Muangthong. The match is important because it's only one game and we will not have any other chance to mount a comeback.

"We will try to employ the necessary tactics for the game as we will miss our defender Marcelo Tavares through suspension and we will try to find the best replacement for him,” he added.

"We have got some information about Muangthong and we studied this information very well. We delivered this information to the players and hopefully we can use it well in the game."

Autuori is expected to field youngster Abdulgafour Murad in place of Tavares while both Sayed Bashir and Hamed Ismail are expected to feature.

Muangthong arrived in Doha on Saturday evening, where they have since undertaken two training sessions.

Striker Mohamed Kone is out through suspension but coach Rene Desaeyere was nevertheless bullish over his side's chances.

"Al Rayyan have several good players including former Middlesbrough star Afonso Alves," said the Belgian.

"However, I'm confident that our men are capable of beating Al Rayyan and advancing to the quarter-finals.

"We have watched Al Rayyan's tactics in their last group match and we have put the necessary strategy in place to beat them and hopefully we can spring a good surprise on Tuesday."

[Nigb]

Al Rayan v Muang Thong on live on Dubai Sport TV, score is 0-1 to Muang Thong after 20mis

[lokomotive]

4:2 after penalties. a really intense and thrilling match. Even MTU was with their asses vs the wall most of the time in the 2nd half.

[TPF]

4:2 after penalties. a really intense and thrilling match. Even MTU was with their asses vs the wall most of the time in the 2nd half.

I saw the penalties on your website Loko...Thanks for that 

Great victory for Muangthong - Well done!

[druryfire]

Well done Muangthong, didn't expect this result. They've done themselves and Thailand proud getting past a team that were favorites to win the competition.

[the_englishman]

Brilliant! And who would have thought we'd do this now after such a poor run of form?

I'm so annoyed my rubbish internet connection wouldn't let me watch it!

[charade_2010]

Desaeyere delight as Thais surprise in Doha

Doha: Muangthong’s lack of available personnel makes the Thai Premier League champions’ penalty shootout victory over Qatar’s Al Rayyan in the AFC Cup on Tuesday even more remarkable according to jubilant coach Rene Desaeyere.

Teerasil Dangda handed the visitors a surprise 17th minute lead in the one-off last 16 tie at Al Rayyan Sports Stadium only for Afonso Alves’ penalty 10 minutes before the break to pull the home side level.

But after the second half and 30 minutes of extra-time failed to find a winner, Group G runners-up Muangthong advanced to the last eight 4-2 on penalties following a 1-1 draw as goalkeeper Kawin Thamsatchanan crucially denied Al Rayyan's Daniel Goumou.

"We came to Doha with only 16 players and we had a big problem before the game as we didn't have enough players. However, when I saw the formation of Al Rayyan I was confident that we would have a good game,” said Belgian coach Desaeyere.

"I have transformed this confidence to my players and this is what was shown clearly on the field.

"In the first half we controlled the game and we had a lot of chances to score. By the end of the game, the players were affected as we had to play for extra 30 minutes."

Qatar Emir’s Cup finalists Al Rayyan had won Group E in impressive style with five wins from six games, but were left to rue an off colour night not helped by the absences of Brazilian Marcelo Tavares and Younis Ali.

"I'm disappointed with this result as we failed to get past the last 16. We played a bad game except for the last six minutes of the second period of extra time where our team improved. We didn't play well as our team didn't play as we used to do,” said Al Rayyan coach Paulo Autuori.

"We had some problems in the team and we must find a solution for the problems that we had. We didn't play as we expected, although I believe that this defeat will not affect our players.

"I want to thank the players for all that they have given in the recent period and I'm sure that they are going to make a good comeback and give all their best in the final of the Emir’s Cup.”

Bravo Muang Thong United , hope they will recover their strength after this victory !  

[lokomotive]

Brilliant! And who would have thought we'd do this now after such a poor run of form?

I'm so annoyed my rubbish internet connection wouldn't let me watch it!

You have not been the only one. Two members of my website, MTU Fans, couldn't even get access to the stream from Thailand side.

[Nigb]

yes a great result, the hard part's out of the way now maybe. They were lucky to have 1-1 at full time, but Teerasil did miss an open shot on goal.

[the_englishman]

As I watch the FA Cup final I am struck by the fact that Wembley's pitch is worse than the Thunderdome's!

[sarayoot]

Hello,

Whats about quarter final of AFC CUP 2010 ?
When and where will take place ?

thanks

[lokomotive]

As I watch the FA Cup final I am struck by the fact that Wembley's pitch is worse than the Thunderdome's!

I've seen the pitch there and in Berlin at FA Cup Final, the pitch looked similiar to that in Wembley

[lokomotive]

Hello,

Whats about quarter final of AFC CUP 2010 ?
When and where will take place ?

thanks

Draw will be held on 25 May, matches to be played mid of September.

[SriRachaShark]

As I watch the FA Cup final I am struck by the fact that Wembley's pitch is worse than the Thunderdome's!

But do you paint your grass green like they do at Wembley?

[charade_2010]

Thai pair ready to overcome odds

Muangthong United officials getting a feel of lifting the AFC Cup trophy .

Kuala Lumpur: Thailand newcomers Muangthong United and Thai Port are unfazed at being paired against formidable West Asian opponents in the 2010 AFC Cup quarter-finals.

MTU, conquerors of Qatari powerhouses Al Rayyan in the Round of 16, are pitted against last year's runners-up Al Karamah of Syria in the last eight while Thai Port will be crossing paths with Kuwaiti champions Al Qadsia.

Ambitious MTU General Manager Ronnarit Suewaja is looking forward to his self-titled “clash of the titans”.

“I am happy that we will be up against arguably the best team in this year’s competition. They are the championship favourites but I don't think we are a bad team either,” he told www.the-afc.com.

”If we want to emerge champions, we should not fear of anyone. I see this match as a good test to our title credential.”

Ronnarit is hoping that Al Karamah, AFC Champions League runners-up in 2006, will underestimate his team.

“Compared to them, we are very much a novice in this field. But it is good for us if they don't really care (about us).

”There are 14 Thailand national players plus three fantastic foreign imports from Africa in our team. In other words, if they want to beat us, they will need to beat virtually a Thai national team.”

Ronnarit also pointed out that his team have yet to be beaten at home.

“We are unbeaten from home since last season in any competitions. I am glad that we will play away first as I am extremely confident that we can beat anyone with any scoreline in our own Yamaha Stadium (formerly known as Thunderdome).”

Meanwhile, Thai Port General Manager Adebayo Gbadebo said he knows nothing about Al Qadsia but believes anything can happen in the knock-out stage.

“Al Qadsia are an unknown quality to us but in general, Kuwait football is one of the best in this continent and they should be respected,” he said. “However, we are well prepared for this encounter. We are ready to give them a big shock.”

Adebayo said his players are all determined to do well in their debut AFC Cup campaign.

“It is the first time for Thai Port to play in both domestic and continental competitions. I must admit that it takes a toll on the players but we are determined to excel .

“No one expected us to go this far but we managed to beat the odds. We want to go as far as we can and bring back glory to Thailand football.”

[SriRachaShark]

MTUFC v Chonburi - A few facts & figures, and videos and photos etc etc

http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/chonburifc/club_news.pl?news=360879

[TPF]

Muang Thong to host Chonburi today

Muang Thong United host Chonburi in the top-of-the-table clash in the Thai Premier League today.

After seven games, leaders Chonburi have 19 points and defending champions Muang Thong 16.

Chonburi coach Jadet Meelarp said his men's confidence was boosted by their win over third-placed Bangkok Glass last week.

Muang Thong have several good players but they rely more on individual skills than teamwork, the coach said. "We are looking forward to the match. I think Bangkok Glass are stronger than Muang Thong," he said.

Muang Thong general manager Ronnarit Suewaja said his players are fully fit and ready for the match.

He said the home crowd could spur the Kirins to hand the Sharks their first defeat of the season.

Link: http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/sports/37847/muang-thong-to-host-chonburi-today

[BangkokGlassBunny]

Good to see justice prevailing in this match.

[TPF]

Good to see justice prevailing in this match.

Why? What's been happening?

[Nigb]

Good to see justice prevailing in this match.

Why? What's been happening?

Muang Thong 4-1 Chonburi !!

[TPF]

Good to see justice prevailing in this match.

Why? What's been happening?

Muang Thong 4-1 Chonburi !!

A bit of a shellacking for Chonburi then. Was it a controversial game? I don't get the 'justice prevailing' comment.

[the_englishman]

Good to see justice prevailing in this match.

Why? What's been happening?

Muang Thong 4-1 Chonburi !!

A bit of a shellacking for Chonburi then. Was it a controversial game? I don't get the 'justice prevailing' comment.

He's referring to a walk off by Chonburi in the 1st half. I'd need to see the penalty incident close up to judge but there is no doubting we were the better team today. We could have won by more. Report to follow.

[TPF]

Good to see justice prevailing in this match.

Why? What's been happening?

Muang Thong 4-1 Chonburi !!

A bit of a shellacking for Chonburi then. Was it a controversial game? I don't get the 'justice prevailing' comment.

He's referring to a walk off by Chonburi in the 1st half. I'd need to see the penalty incident close up to judge but there is no doubting we were the better team today. We could have won by more. Report to follow.

Thanks for that Greg!

I look forward to reading your report of events...Sounds like it was an eventful game!

[BangkokGlassBunny]

Good to see justice prevailing in this match.

Why? What's been happening?

Muang Thong 4-1 Chonburi !!

A bit of a shellacking for Chonburi then. Was it a controversial game? I don't get the 'justice prevailing' comment.

He's referring to a walk off by Chonburi in the 1st half. I'd need to see the penalty incident close up to judge but there is no doubting we were the better team today. We could have won by more. Report to follow.

Yes, Chonburi really went downhill in my estimation after this. As probably the most respected team in Thailand, they set a really bad example with a petulant walk off and refused to let the game continue for a good few minutes.

What made them look even more childish was the fact it was a fairly clear cut penalty, but that's neither here nor there. I expected better from Chonburi.

I was hoping MTU would score 6 or 7 by the end, which they could quite easily of.

[BangkokGlassBunny]

I forgot to say : Credit to MTU & their fans for not reacting to 'The Chonburi Childishness'. It could have easily caused problems on the pitch or in the crowd.

[Vinnie]

Amazed by Kosin's reaction: it probably was a penalty and you see far worse decisions in any given match.
Chonburi's bigger greivance should be the nailed-on penalty they didn't get in the second half when there was a shirt pull. They were only 2-1 down at the time, too.

[SriRachaShark]

I must admit that I thought it was a penalty the first time I saw it - I was about as far away as it as possible to get and still be inside the stadium - but I believe that some reports are claiming Datsakorn dived. Still there was no excuse for what followed and I'm disappointed in our lads reaction, to say the least. In fairness, the vast majority of Chonburi fans where I was standing were urging the players to get on with the game.

However, if we're talking about petulance and childishness, take a good long look at M. Rene the next time you get the chance. He's up and down like a tart's drawers and contests every single decision. There's no doubt that he puts pressure on officials and the brandishing of imaginary red or yellow cards is disgraceful coming from a coach. What is funny though  is watching his Mini-Me reacting a split second behind him.

Kone has probably gone down much further in my estimation than we have in yours, BGB. His goal celebrations in front of the Chonburi fans were uncalled for. He had three sides of the ground to run to but he chose to large it in front of our supporters. Totally unnecessay and provocative.

As for the home fans not reacting, they're forbidden to do so by their "Code of Conduct". Any miscreants will have their cola and popcorn rations stopped for a month.

As for the game, I thought the better side won and I have no real complaints. However, we had enough chances ourselves so we too could easily have scored 6 or 7. Michael Byrne hit the crossbar twice and had a couple of shots tipped over by Kawin, who also made some other excellent saves. Baga missed an easy chance in the first half. Plus Arthit and Puritat both going close. And, yes, we should have had a penalty when Baga was hauled back.

[lokomotive]

I must admit that I thought it was a penalty the first time I saw it - I was about as far away as it as possible to get and still be inside the stadium - but I believe that some reports are claiming Datsakorn dived. Still there was no excuse for what followed and I'm disappointed in our lads reaction, to say the least. In fairness, the vast majority of Chonburi fans where I was standing were urging the players to get on with the game.

However, if we're talking about petulance and childishness, take a good long look at M. Rene the next time you get the chance. He's up and down like a tart's drawers and contests every single decision. There's no doubt that he puts pressure on officials and the brandishing of imaginary red or yellow cards is disgraceful coming from a coach. What is funny though  is watching his Mini-Me reacting a split second behind him.

Kone has probably gone down much further in my estimation than we have in yours, BGB. His goal celebrations in front of the Chonburi fans were uncalled for. He had three sides of the ground to run to but he chose to large it in front of our supporters. Totally unnecessay and provocative.

As for the home fans not reacting, they're forbidden to do so by their "Code of Conduct". Any miscreants will have their cola and popcorn rations stopped for a month.

As for the game, I thought the better side won and I have no real complaints. However, we had enough chances ourselves so we too could easily have scored 6 or 7. Michael Byrne hit the crossbar twice and had a couple of shots tipped over by Kawin, who also made some other excellent saves. Baga missed an easy chance in the first half. Plus Arthit and Puritat both going close. And, yes, we should have had a penalty when Baga was hauled back.

I totally agree SRS. MTU was the better side, with nice attacks and goals. But Kawin saved the day for MTU in the end. I was looking at the replay of the penalty, and it is very hard to say it was one or not. The chance a ref is giving that is by 50% I would say.

It was anyway a nice day for me, which I am glad didn't had to missed it out. Even CFC lost.

As the match obvioulsy was sold out, can we consider it as a new record for the TPL with 20.000?

[BangkokGlassBunny]

Yes it was a superb match. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Yes Chonburi could have had loads of goals themselves.
Yes Kawin was in great form.
Yes Rene is an idiot... It goes without saying.
Yes Kone could have started trouble too and it should probably be looked at by the F.A.

But why is everyone overlooking the fact Chonburi walked off and refused to play? If it was Pattaya or Muang Thong themselves everyone would be having a fit and calling for points deductions.

This was a flagship match that represented the whole of Thai Football. Like loko said, 20,000 or so plus how ever many watching on TV.

I couldn't believe I was seeing Therdsak ushering the players off, I hope he feels foolish this morning but SRS, I'm glad you said the Chonburi fans seemed to have more sense than the players and were urging them to continue, I would be devastated if BG ever do this and I'd like to think most of our fans would be too.

I hope it isn't a case of 'let's pretend it didn't happen' like when Alan Shearer purposefully kicked Neil Lennon in the face, just because it's Chonburi.

Sorry, but Chonburi should be made an example of.

[the_englishman]

SRS, If we want to talk penalties and ref's mistakes, the incident near the end when Yaya was through yet again your defender basically pulled him into a chokehold with his shirt. He had both hands around Yaya's shoulders.  The ref was behind the action so only gave a yellow, it was a crystal clear red from the front view.

So let's say the ref's decisions balanced out and the better team on the day won.

[the_englishman]

Yes it was a superb match. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Yes Chonburi could have had loads of goals themselves.
Yes Kawin was in great form.
Yes Rene is an idiot... It goes without saying.
Yes Kone could have started trouble too and it should probably be looked at by the F.A.

But why is everyone overlooking the fact Chonburi walked off and refused to play? If it was Pattaya or Muang Thong themselves everyone would be having a fit and calling for points deductions.

This was a flagship match that represented the whole of Thai Football. Like loko said, 20,000 or so plus how ever many watching on TV.

I couldn't believe I was seeing Therdsak ushering the players off, I hope he feels foolish this morning but SRS, I'm glad you said the Chonburi fans seemed to have more sense than the players and were urging them to continue, I would be devastated if BG ever do this and I'd like to think most of our fans would be too.

I hope it isn't a case of 'let's pretend it didn't happen' like when Alan Shearer purposefully kicked Neil Lennon in the face, just because it's Chonburi.

Sorry, but Chonburi should be made an example of.

I agree with most of this, but I think we should concentrate on positives. The game was played to a high standard, both sets of fans behaved very well. Lots of goals and a large, passionate crowd that were kept safe.

[SriRachaShark]

"Chonburi should be made an example of."

I couldn't disagree more. Teams who have done this in the past should have been hit hard in the first place. Constant offenders - Bang Phra, Samut Songkhram - should be docked points and given massive fines. If this had been dealt with swiftly and earlier then it may be less of a problem.

Yes, we should be punished but only in line with what has gone before. Why should we be made an example of? I don't understand your logic there, BGB.

[Vinnie]

The FAT did annouce a full tarriff of fines and other punishments at the start of the season. Can't remember off the top of my head what the supposed punishment for a walk-off is.
When the dust has settled it will probably be Kosin (sorry, always forget his new name) who gets punished more than the club.
Have never and will never understand the logic of a temporary walk-off. They just baffle me more than anything. I'd genuinely appreciate a Thai explaining it to me.

[BangkokGlassBunny]

"Chonburi should be made an example of."

I couldn't disgree more. Teams who have done this in the past should have been hit hard in the first place. Constant offenders - Bang Phra - should be docked points and given massive fines. If this had been dealt with swiftly and earlier then it may be less of a problem.

Yes, we should be punished but only in line with what has gone before. Why should we be made an example of? I don't understand your logic there, BGB.

Yes of course previous teams should have been hit hard, but they got away with it.... Hence why it keeps happening.

The only way it is going to stop is to hit a team hard and stick to it for all teams. The Thai leagues are always going to be held back until clubs are held responsible for actions like these.

So we continue to let clubs get away with it because it hasn't been properly dealt with before?

There is nothing that can be done over past incidents, but there is something that can be done about current ones.

It's got to start somewhere. The culprits have to learn.

Chonburi have always prided themselves in being a well respected club. They disrespected the whole of Thai football in the biggest game of the season (and probably Thai league football history) just when Thai football is starting to get somewhere.

Different circumstances, I know, but Thai Port were made an example of, why shouldn't Chonburi?

[SriRachaShark]

So, as a club that is widely respected we should receive a harsher punishment than anyone else in order to be made an example of? I'm still not following this. Should we be fined double for any red or yellow cards we receive?

The fact that it happened in "the biggest game in Thal league football history" doesn't make a scrap of difference. If it happens in a bottom of the table match in Thai Regional Division 2 South, it's still wrong. It's still the same crime. And the culprits should be punished in lines with the guidelines to which Vinnie refers.


FAT and TPL have made a rod for their own backs here by not being tougher earlier. They are the ones at which the fingers should really be pointing. I fully expect my club to graciously accept any reasonable punishment we are given but all hell will break loose if we are harshly treated.

The Thai Port incident is an entirely different matter. The scale of trouble was unprecedented in Thai domestic football and, by and large, I think the authorities got it right. However, there had been a number of minor crowd disturbances around the country prior to the Kor Royal Cup and most of the clubs got away with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. Guess who were hit the hardest for a small skirmish on the car park?

You don't work for the FAT Disciplinary Committee (Chonburi Dept.) by any chance, do you?

[SriRachaShark]

I must admit that I thought it was a penalty the first time I saw it - I was about as far away as it as possible to get and still be inside the stadium - but I believe that some reports are claiming Datsakorn dived. Still there was no excuse for what followed and I'm disappointed in our lads reaction, to say the least. In fairness, the vast majority of Chonburi fans where I was standing were urging the players to get on with the game.

However, if we're talking about petulance and childishness, take a good long look at M. Rene the next time you get the chance. He's up and down like a tart's drawers and contests every single decision. There's no doubt that he puts pressure on officials and the brandishing of imaginary red or yellow cards is disgraceful coming from a coach. What is funny though  is watching his Mini-Me reacting a split second behind him.

Kone has probably gone down much further in my estimation than we have in yours, BGB. His goal celebrations in front of the Chonburi fans were uncalled for. He had three sides of the ground to run to but he chose to large it in front of our supporters. Totally unnecessay and provocative.

As for the home fans not reacting, they're forbidden to do so by their "Code of Conduct". Any miscreants will have their cola and popcorn rations stopped for a month.

As for the game, I thought the better side won and I have no real complaints. However, we had enough chances ourselves so we too could easily have scored 6 or 7. Michael Byrne hit the crossbar twice and had a couple of shots tipped over by Kawin, who also made some other excellent saves. Baga missed an easy chance in the first half. Plus Arthit and Puritat both going close. And, yes, we should have had a penalty when Baga was hauled back.

I totally agree SRS. MTU was the better side, with nice attacks and goals. But Kawin saved the day for MTU in the end. I was looking at the replay of the penalty, and it is very hard to say it was one or not. The chance a ref is giving that is by 50% I would say.

It was anyway a nice day for me, which I am glad didn't had to missed it out. Even CFC lost.

As the match obvioulsy was sold out, can we consider it as a new record for the TPL with 20.000?

Official attendance was given as 19,187.

http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/chonburifc/club_news.pl?news=361465

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555... It's not a personal attack on Chonburi. I would have the same opinion if MTU did it and I can honestly say if BG had of done it last week when we gave away a pen, I would want us to be dealt with severely. You saw me last week, I was angry as it was about our minor crowd trouble, Thai footy is on the way up and I don't like it being put back in the dark ages, especially by those who should know better.

I think it does make a difference that it happened in this game. Of course it is wrong no matter what level it happens at, but the higher the lever, the higher the respect, the higher the responsibility.

Even in the English premier league, big teams are made examples of when necessary and rightly so in my eyes. You always have to have a major incident to set a precedent and this was a major incident in a major game.

I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one SRS. I will wait for the punishment or lack of before I comment further  

btw.. I agree with you on the Chonburi car park skirmish last year I do like Chonburi, honestly  

Sorry for taking over the Muang Thong thread And congrats on the official attendance figures. Another step forward.