Muang Thong United Thread

[lokomotive]

Hic hic ... I searched it on everywhere but still be hopeless ...  :

Ok here is something for you: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zsWZuWdI5k

[charade_2010]

Ok here is something for you: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zsWZuWdI5k

Woww , thanks lokomotive so much ! 
Yesterday and today , the Vietnamese media blame SHB Đà Nẵng so much !    Although Đà Nẵng are the defending champions of V - League , in fact ,  they are not so strong as Becamex Bình Dương ( who beat Chonburi last year ) .

[druryfire]

Ok here is something for you: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zsWZuWdI5k

Woww , thanks lokomotive so much ! 
Yesterday and today , the Vietnamese media blame SHB Đà Nẵng so much !    Although Đà Nẵng are the defending champions of V - League , in fact ,  they are not so strong as Becamex Bình Dương ( who beat Chonburi last year ) .

Going off subject, Binh Duong will be one to watch in this years AFC Cup, they had a storming win at the weekend

[charade_2010]

Going off subject, Binh Duong will be one to watch in this years AFC Cup, they had a storming win at the weekend

Adam , you also pay attention to V - League ? Yeah , it was opened last Sunday and Bình Dương won Lam Sơn Thanh Hóa 6-2 !

[druryfire]

Going off subject, Binh Duong will be one to watch in this years AFC Cup, they had a storming win at the weekend

Adam , you also pay attention to V - League ? Yeah , it was opened last Sunday and Bình Dương won Lam Sơn Thanh Hóa 6-2 !

Yes, i have my eyes on it, but the team names are almost impossible to read!! 

[lokomotive]

Going off subject, Binh Duong will be one to watch in this years AFC Cup, they had a storming win at the weekend

Adam , you also pay attention to V - League ? Yeah , it was opened last Sunday and Bình Dương won Lam Sơn Thanh Hóa 6-2 !

Yes, i have my eyes on it, but the team names are almost impossible to read!! 

They are able to read. More difficult is to track the changes of all the clubs. Having name, place and owner changes nearly every year.

[druryfire]

Going off subject, Binh Duong will be one to watch in this years AFC Cup, they had a storming win at the weekend

Adam , you also pay attention to V - League ? Yeah , it was opened last Sunday and Bình Dương won Lam Sơn Thanh Hóa 6-2 !

Yes, i have my eyes on it, but the team names are almost impossible to read!! 

They are able to read. More difficult is to track the changes of all the clubs. Having name, place and owner changes nearly every year.

Similiar to Thailand Loko, except Vietnam go a bit further in selling and buying their places in divisions. This season, Thanh Hoa started the season in 2 divisions!!!

[lokomotive]

Nigb, have you been aware of this video?

You realy are realy looking disinterest   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8uOhI4kfdo&feature=related

[druryfire]

Can anyone give me a run down of the friendlies played this year?

[jakartacasual]

anyone seen the englishman recently?

see you in singapore???

[the_englishman]

anyone seen the englishman recently?

see you in singapore???

Sadly not, big fella. I purchased an Xbox 360 already this year, think I'd be hard pushed to justify another big outlay, as much as I'd like to :-)

[jakartacasual]

5uckin xbox...

you d knock football on th head for a box with knobs on it!!!

[charade_2010]

Match officials for SAF vs Muang Thong ACL play-off

KUALA LUMPUR: The AFC has appointed the following match officials for the AFC Champions League 2010 play-off match between Singapore Armed Forces Fc (Sin) and Muang Thong United (Tha) on February 6, 2010.
Match Commissioner
Arachchilage Sunil Senaweera (Sri Lanka)
Referee Assessor
Mohamad Rodzali Yacob (Malaysia)
Referee
Kim Dong Jin (Korea Republic)
Assistant Referees
Jeong Hae Sang (Korea Republic)
Eun Jonbok (Korea Republic)
Fourth Official
Ko Hyung Jin (Korea Republic)

[lokomotive]

Sorry to ask again. But does some one of have informations whether the game will be televised?

[SriRachaShark]

5uckin xbox...

you d knock football on th head for a box with knobs on it!!!

The kids of today!

[lokomotive]

For the Game today, vs SAFFC, there will be a live ticker on thai-fussball.de in case there will be no TV broadcasting in the end. Sure I am not in Singapore, but sometimes there is some magic...... Its the first time for me I try this, so for everything may not working 100%, I am sorry for this in advance.

[jakartacasual]

i will be at the game but be buggered if i m gonna be doin updates on twitter!

if anyone does want h/t f/t comments then pm me a number and if there s no complimentry beer i ll see what i can do!!!

[charade_2010]

ACL qualification ‘one giant step’ for Muangthong says coach

SINGAPORE – Muangthong United head coach Rene Desaeyere says qualification to the 2010 AFC Champions will represent a ‘massive step forward’ for the high-flying Thai champions and called for one last push from his players when they tackle Singapore Armed Forces on Saturday.

Division Two champions in 2007, Division One champions in 2008 and Premier League champions last year, Muangthong have taken Thai football by storm and are looking to make an immediate impact on the continental stage by qualifying for Asia’s biggest club competition at the first time of asking.

Muangthong eased to a 3-0 win over Vietnam side Da Nang last Sunday to set-up the qualifying play-off final with SAF at Jalan Besar Stadium.

Desaeyere, who took over the managerial reigns of the big-spending Bangkok club towards the end of January, will be able to call on the services of five Thailand full internationals including forward Teeratep Winothai who is on loan from Belgian club Lierse but the 62-year-old will be without two of Muangthong’s biggest close season signings.

Thailand national captain Datsakorn Thonglao and former Turkey under-21 international Berkant Goktan were not registered in time for the play-offs and have not made the trip down to Singapore.

“We have a young team and even though we won the league last year, it is difficult to stay on the top which was why we brought in new players to continue at the top," said Desaeyere (pictured).

“If we can make it to the Champions League, it will be a very big step for the future of the club, so we will do our best to make the step forward.”

Singapore Armed Forces are looking to secure their place in the AFC Champions League for the second successive year and comfortably beat Sriwijaya 3-0 in their play-off semi-final last Saturday, although Muangthong United will certainly offer a sterner test than Indonesians.

The reigning S.League champions got their domestic campaign off to a relatively poor start on Wednesday after being held 1-1 at home by Singapore Cup winners Geylang United, who will take part in this year’s AFC Cup.

The Warriors clearly had an eye on Saturday’s crucial play-off and rested several key players while Uruguayan forward Federico Martinez did not even feature at all.

They will welcome back club captain and former international goalkeeper Shahril Jantan after he missed the Sriwijaya game through suspension. 

Coach Richard Bok feels that it will be close game between two sides with very little separating them.

“All the teams in the play-offs are well prepared and the team that makes fewer mistakes and who takes their chances will win on Saturday,” he said.

“We are flying the flag for Singapore and qualification for the Champions League is one of our priorities.”

The winner of the match will play in Group G of the 2010 AFC Champions League alongside 2008 ACL winners Gamba Osaka, Suwon Samsung Bluewings and Henan Jianye.

[lokomotive]

MTU are out. The lost 4:3 after penalty. Looked like the where the dominating team, but couldn't score.

[the_englishman]

Brave effort and we held our own against a very strong side.

I'm sure MTU will see more ACL action in the coming years.

[charade_2010]

SAFFC (SIN) 0-0 Muangthong United (THA) aet. SAFFC win 4-3 on pens

SINGAPORE - Singapore Armed Forces are through to the AFC Champions League group stage after edging Muangthong United 4-3 on penalties at the Jalan Besar Stadium in Singapore.

Muangthong defender Panupong Wongsa and SAF winger Taisuke Akiyoshi had their spot-kicks saved before Pakasit Saesook sent the final kick high over the bar to give the home side the win in dramatic and heartbreaking fashion.

120 minutes of football had earlier failed to provide a breakthrough with both sides guilty of profligacy in front of goal.

The visitors, with a passionate and loud travelling band cheering them on, were the first to settle in a largely cagey first half.

They almost went ahead inside four minutes when Cote d’Ivoire forward Christian Kouakou was left unmarked but glanced his header straight at SAF keeper Shahril Jantan.

The hosts, missing Uruguayan forward Federico Martinez, struggled to get a foothold into the game and it took them almost 43 minutes to register their first real effort on goal with a speculative shot outside the box from Japanese winger Akiyoshi.

Muangthong came the closest to breaking the deadlock on the stroke of half time when captain Nataporn Phanrit charged up the pitch only to miss a gaping goal when he side-footed horribly wide from Kouakou’s tantalising cut back in the box.

The second-half started at breakneck pace with first Teeretap Winothai testing Shahril from outside the box before the home side responded with two good efforts of their own.

Mustaqim Manzur curled a shot from the edge of the area which Muangthong keeper Kawin Thamsatchanan did well to tip over while Daniel Bennett found his header from the resulting corner cleared off the line with Kawin well beaten.

Indra Sahdan then came close to putting the Warriors ahead when he flicked the ball over the bar with just the keeper to beat after good work down the left by Mustaqim.

Muangthong substitute Nobuyuki Zaizen almost won it with five minutes remaining when his half volley was charged down by Bennett in the box with some half-hearted shouts for hand ball.

Play then switched to the other end and John Wilkinson almost caught out Kawin with a speculative dipping shot from the right flank.

Fullback Shaiful Esah, famed for his deadly left foot set-pieces, then came closest to the winner with a minute of regulation time remaining when his deflected freekick hit the post with Kawin well beaten.

The 30 minutes of extra-time failed to separate the two sides although Kouakou should have won it for Muangthong in the second period after a clever turn took him into space in the box to test Shahril with a stiff grounder but in the end it came down to penalties and it was the Warriors that would march into the ACL for a second successive season.

[lokomotive]

Brave effort and we held our own against a very strong side.

I'm sure MTU will see more ACL action in the coming years.

haha, remember, we are not in Europe!!! Only the Thai Champ makes it to the CL. According to you, it would mean MTU will be reigning champ for the next years. ..and I hope this will not be the case.

[druryfire]

Maybe it's now time Muang should look at themselves in the mirror?

Today, they came up against SAFFC who aren't mugs but they also aren't world beaters. For all the money Muang have spent on bringing players in, it simply hasn't worked. Will this show them that you can't bring in 11 players and expect success, surely a few changes per season is what the very best teams do?

No doubt Muang are a good team, but i'm kind of glad they went out the way they did. For a lot of Muang fans, it should hurt them, but will it hurt them? Will they want to stick around and watch a losing team?

Hopefully come the AFC Cup, we will see the fans out in force midweek against potiental teams from the Maldives and Malaysia. This will show me what Muangthong United football club means to the people of Muang Thong Thai and surrounding areas.

Today SAFFC might have saved Muang from big defeats in the ACL, so maybe it's not so bad to build up in stages starting with the AFC Cup, once they get far in the AFC Cup and play teams from West Asia, we will really see what Muang are like at Asian level.

The ACL will come round again. But the last 3 years Muang have steamrolled the way to the top, so todays defeat will either make them or break them.

[the_englishman]

Brave effort and we held our own against a very strong side.

I'm sure MTU will see more ACL action in the coming years.

haha, remember, we are not in Europe!!! Only the Thai Champ makes it to the CL. According to you, it would mean MTU will be reigning champ for the next years. ..and I hope this will not be the case.

But I believe it will happen! Though I also believe the profile of Thai football will rise. Perhaps we could get allocated two ACL spots?

[the_englishman]

Maybe it's now time Muang should look at themselves in the mirror?

Today, they came up against SAFFC who aren't mugs but they also aren't world beaters. For all the money Muang have spent on bringing players in, it simply hasn't worked. Will this show them that you can't bring in 11 players and expect success, surely a few changes per season is what the very best teams do?

No doubt Muang are a good team, but i'm kind of glad they went out the way they did. For a lot of Muang fans, it should hurt them, but will it hurt them? Will they want to stick around and watch a losing team?

Hopefully come the AFC Cup, we will see the fans out in force midweek against potiental teams from the Maldives and Malaysia. This will show me what Muangthong United football club means to the people of Muang Thong Thai and surrounding areas.

Today SAFFC might have saved Muang from big defeats in the ACL, so maybe it's not so bad to build up in stages starting with the AFC Cup, once they get far in the AFC Cup and play teams from West Asia, we will really see what Muang are like at Asian level.

The ACL will come round again. But the last 3 years Muang have steamrolled the way to the top, so todays defeat will either make them or break them.

Couldn't disagree more.

For one thing, most of the new boys were ineligible for this match.  Look at the squad, most played last season. Secondly, how much is defeat by penalties a mark of a losing team? I believe you will see some good support in the AFC  cup as you call it DF.

[lokomotive]

To add one more thing to your discussion, for me, MTU is one of clubs, which I see in the AFC Cup Halffinal or even Final.

[druryfire]

Maybe it's now time Muang should look at themselves in the mirror?

Today, they came up against SAFFC who aren't mugs but they also aren't world beaters. For all the money Muang have spent on bringing players in, it simply hasn't worked. Will this show them that you can't bring in 11 players and expect success, surely a few changes per season is what the very best teams do?

No doubt Muang are a good team, but i'm kind of glad they went out the way they did. For a lot of Muang fans, it should hurt them, but will it hurt them? Will they want to stick around and watch a losing team?

Hopefully come the AFC Cup, we will see the fans out in force midweek against potiental teams from the Maldives and Malaysia. This will show me what Muangthong United football club means to the people of Muang Thong Thai and surrounding areas.

Today SAFFC might have saved Muang from big defeats in the ACL, so maybe it's not so bad to build up in stages starting with the AFC Cup, once they get far in the AFC Cup and play teams from West Asia, we will really see what Muang are like at Asian level.

The ACL will come round again. But the last 3 years Muang have steamrolled the way to the top, so todays defeat will either make them or break them.

Couldn't disagree more.

For one thing, most of the new boys were ineligible for this match.  Look at the squad, most played last season. Secondly, how much is defeat by penalties a mark of a losing team? I believe you will see some good support in the AFC  cup as you call it DF.

Yes, most of them were ineligible because theres a lot of them. How many championship winning teams sign on 11 new players?

The guys can't play because they weren't signed in time. So what happens when they can feature? You had players who played today that won't get a look in, in the league and AFC Cup.

What i meant by a 'losing team'. End of the day they lost, they didn't draw, they didn't do the job. In the TPL last year, they drew with Chonburi in what was a title decider, that was the aim, don't lose. Today's aim was to win, a loss on penalties is still a loss.

Today would have been the first time that many Muang supporters saw Muang not achieve what they set out to do. Now, i'm not having a go at supportrs such as you Greg, i know you know the game a lot more than most Muang supporters. But what starts happening when Muang lose other games? Last year, they followed a winning team. At some point they will be a losing team. What will happen then?

As for AFC Cup, do you expect 15,000 for a midweek game against VB Sports of the Maldives? That hurts when you could have had Gamba Osaka for example

[druryfire]

To add one more thing to your discussion, for me, MTU is one of clubs, which I see in the AFC Cup Halffinal or even Final.

Loko, East Asia is weak at this level, so they should make the knockout rounds. But can you see them going to West Asia and getting a result? There's some seriously good teams at this level in the West Asian region.

[the_englishman]

Drury, I'm finding it hard to follow the point you are making. In your first post you seemed to say MTU should see this result as a consequence of signing too many players, but as we've established, most didn't play.

Then you say they didn't play because there's too many of them, but then you acknowledge that actually it's because they were signed too late.

I don't see how you can look at the result as a consequence of signing players who didn't play in the match?

Also, if my translation hasn't let me down again, didn't the match end in a draw and go to penalties? None of us really look on a penalty shoot out as a defeat do we?

If you want to question the loyalty of MTU fans you have a right to do so of course, but will you then give them credit if the crowds stay high?

Keep up the good work on Wikipedia mate (that is you isn't it?), some damn good research on there.

[jakartacasual]

http://jakartacasual.blogspot.com/2010/02/saffc-v-muang-thong-united-0-0-4-3-on.html

muang thong played really well and were unlucky but don t score and this is what happens rp and the coach were less than impressed with the ref!

[druryfire]

what im trying to get at greg is that muang have come to far to quickly, expectation of them is now so high

Todays, lets call it exit, will do them the world of good.

But generally they brought in lots of new players because they thought they were ACL bound. Today shows they arent.

If muang can sustain the crowds then muang deserve the credit. But it has been questioned before, where were they 12 months ago ?

Today will be the 1st day they saw there team not progress, how will they see this? Will they follow muang for a 4pm kickoff midweek in the AFC Cup?

[druryfire]

Keep up the good work on Wikipedia mate (that is you isn't it?), some damn good research on there.

Yep that is me, and let me tell you it takes a hell of a long time and effort!!

As ever anything you want putting on i can do for you, but i do tend to stay away from the club pages and have moved onto seson articles.

Find Muang here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muangthong_United_F.C._season_2010

[SriRachaShark]

"rp and the coach were less than impressed with the ref!"

Ho hum. But I bet they were full of praise for all their expensive signings who failed to score in 120 minutes.

[Vinnie]

If they can get to the semis or final of the AFC Cup then last night's exit may not be such a bad thing. A good run in that competition would be preferable to a probable wooden spoon in the Champions League group stage. Although, I guess the CL is the place to be no matter what your prospects.

[lokomotive]

I totally agree with you Vinnie. And maybe they are able to make history, in winning the AFC Cup as first Club from East Asia. That wouldn't be a bad thing.

[jakartacasual]

to be fair i don t think they re overly worried about going out the acl

their challenge is to win the tpl again...anything else is a bonus and a bit of cash in the bank

btw bumped into them again at the airport today. sad git that i am i was wearing a thai port polo shirt which got the odd funny look

[lokomotive]

wearing a thai port polo shirt which got the odd funny look

I guess marcus will be delighted.

Vid of the match:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm5n4aorqVI

I have no clue how Nattaphorn could miss that chance in the first half.

[pipat_MTUFC]

Let me explain , I have been out from this website for a long time,

I can't answer the question about the club but I can answer on behalf of the real fans

Regarding to the number of fans will decrease because of this match ?

No is my answer but it will make us more stronger  and this year we have a lof of plans to raise fanclub  standard up

[Nigb]

pretty glad to see them in the AFC Cup. Can you imagine MTU in the champions league. At this stage they would not compete well with the big clubs, many Thai fans lose heart. A good result in the AFC Cup for Thai Port and MTU is an obtainable step forward for 2010.

[jakartacasual]

press conference

http://jakartacasualtv.blogspot.com/2010/02/saffc-v-muang-thong-united-press.html

[lokomotive]

Thanks JC, I better shut my mouth (or keybord). There's only one thing I can go with, and that was the last sentence of Rene. There definately should be a home and an away game.

[SriRachaShark]

"At this stage they would not compete well with the big clubs, many Thai fans lose heart."

Watching your team get pasted is part and parcel of being a football fan. If they can't handle it maybe they should take up tiddlywinks. Or start supporting M*n U*d.

[SriRachaShark]

press conference

http://jakartacasualtv.blogspot.com/2010/02/saffc-v-muang-thong-united-press.html

Can someone please provide a transcript. Or give me an idea of what is said. Thanks.

[jakartacasual]

the mtu guys blame the ref, the saffc said everything was fine

pretty much the same as every other press conference

[SriRachaShark]

If they can get to the semis or final of the AFC Cup then last night's exit may not be such a bad thing. A good run in that competition would be preferable to a probable wooden spoon in the Champions League group stage. Although, I guess the CL is the place to be no matter what your prospects.

Speaking from my own personal experiences, I much preferred Chonburi's AFC CL games than the AFC Cup ones, even though we realistically had a much better prospect of progressing in the latter. I guess you should always want to play at the highest possible level. I think any noises coming out of MTUFC saying that anything other than winning the TPL again will be a bonus have to be taken with a pinch of salt, considering the money they are spending.

[druryfire]

considering the money they are spending.

And that is exactly why Saturday was a failure. Fair enough half the payers the money was spent on didn't play. But when you spend big bucks, you want a big return. Win, lose or draw, they didn't get the return they wanted

[the_englishman]

considering the money they are spending.

And that is exactly why Saturday was a failure. Fair enough half the payers the money was spent on didn't play. But when you spend big bucks, you want a big return. Win, lose or draw, they didn't get the return they wanted

More than half Drury. I believe they had two new signings in the squad and one of them is a squad player, not a big money buy. How can you be so scathing for a team that won the Prem in their first season in it and lost an away game to a good experienced side on penalties?

[druryfire]

Half or not Greg. End of the day they didn't reach the goal they were after.

What really knarks me about Muang is that they are far to outspoken.

RP says they were the better team on Saturday, but end of the day, Muang didn't score and they knew before hand an outright win takes them through. Penalties, anything can happen, but they just weren't good enough to win on the pitch.

The new coach Rene annoys me. He's been here two minutes and he's already wanting to change the ACL system. Next time out, he might have a one leg home tie. Will he complain then? He knew the rules before hand, if he didn't like them, he should have stayed in Europe.

I did actually like Muang, but i do kind of have a passion for wanting to hate and have a dig at teams that are winners. I just wish at times, they just did their stuff on the pitch rather than bemoan in the press. Last years Pattaya game stands out.

Sometimes, i just can't stand the incidents that happen with Muang. Last years Pattaya and Chula games stand out.

Also, what really really gets on my nerves is the fact that the new coach looks like a bloody professor more than a footy coach

[druryfire]

I'd also like to add, i don't hate Muang half as much as i do hate most other teams.

In fact, i have the very catchy Muang theme tune, if thats what you call it, as my ring tone.

[druryfire]

Ok, so AFC confirmed the AFC Cup draw today, Muang will play:

South China (Hong Kong)
VB Sports Club (Maldives)
Persiwa Wamena (Indonesia)

Now, unlike previous editions, the winner and loser will meet West Asian opposition in the knockout round, played over one leg.  The group winners play at home, the runners up play away.

Muang could face the following in the knockout round, something i do expect them to make:

Al Wihdat (Jordan)
Riffa Club (Bahrain)
Al Rayyan (Qatar)
Al Nahda (Oman)

If Muang want to go far in the competition, they must win their group and bring one of these West Asian teams back to Thailand. Playing away against one of these sides could prove a disaster, although the only highlight is that you could catch them cold as it will be their close season