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« Reply #250 on: January 15, 2010, 03:56:38 PM » |
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Hi Dale,
As I said before, I don't think any of us are qualified to speak for the majority of fans. My own personal sense is that most Thai fans would like to see MTU do well in the ACL, though again I don't suggest they rate this over and above success for the national side.
I do agree with some of the criticism about MTU's handling of this issue but I think it would be sad for us to get into a state of "Muangthong this, Muangthong that". Let's keep things balanced, regardless of personal rivalries.
Unless we are talking about Man U or Pompey of course :-)
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« Reply #252 on: January 19, 2010, 10:37:10 PM » |
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New coach for Muangthong?? Rene Desaeyere ring a bell anyone?
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« Reply #253 on: January 19, 2010, 10:56:57 PM » |
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New coach for Muangthong?? Rene Desaeyere ring a bell anyone?
*pff* why that? What about Buspakom? I think he did a good job. And he has experiance with the AFC CL. Anyway, I never heard about this guy. But as he is from Belgium, at least he would fit to Proceur. |
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« Reply #254 on: January 20, 2010, 12:32:48 AM » |
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« Reply #255 on: January 20, 2010, 01:13:10 AM » |
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I'm told Buspakom has been 'promoted'. Probably a Technical Director.
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« Reply #256 on: January 20, 2010, 05:41:44 AM » |
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« Reply #257 on: January 20, 2010, 09:04:09 AM » |
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Wasn't he the main character in "'allo 'allo"? Nah, he was the fat bloke who duetted with Renata on "Save You Love". |
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« Reply #262 on: January 22, 2010, 11:18:51 AM » |
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« Reply #264 on: January 22, 2010, 12:22:34 PM » |
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"I assume he wasn't prosecuted for the offence because I'm sure foreigners with a drugs-related conviction can't get a work permit in Thailand."
That also occurred to me. I'm not sure of the law but I guess that the club have checked this out with the authorities.
MT are taking a big risk by signing him based on that article. I'm all for giving people a second chance but there is a real danger that this could end in tears.
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« Reply #265 on: January 22, 2010, 12:53:15 PM » |
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"I could fill a book with the mistakes I have made, but I have changed."
Ouch! Talk about words coming back to haunt you. He said that before he was kicked out.
When he joined 1860 last September [2006], there were more than a few postings on independent message boards from people who claimed to have known him in the late 90s because he dug the nightlife and was often seen about town. Don't sign him, many postings concluded, this guy means trouble.
So reading between the lines, he'd been at it since the nineties but didn't get found out till 2008. Bangkok, with all its attractions, isn't the place to get your career back on the straight and narrow.
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« Reply #266 on: January 22, 2010, 04:18:18 PM » |
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As predicted, two of the three boulevard media's here in Munich made a big story out of that. Just bought them all this morning. They gave him a nearly a full printed page in the sport section. Putted in a pic with him and the MTU scarf. Addiadionally, one paper printed a big MTU logo on the sport content page.
According to the press, he is in Thailand since September. Maybe he was there already before. No idea, Anyway, when he came to thailand the first time, last year, he met his new love and already married her in autumn last year. So I would say, he met his thai wife maybe a year ago, and is already married since maybe 6 months.
And yes, he was not prosecuted by the police. Only kicked out by 1860. So in that case, he should be able to get a permit or not?
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« Reply #267 on: January 22, 2010, 04:33:28 PM » |
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And yes, he was not prosecuted by the police. Only kicked out by 1860. So in that case, he should be able to get a permit or not?
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« Reply #268 on: January 22, 2010, 04:47:53 PM » |
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And yes, he was not prosecuted by the police. Only kicked out by 1860. So in that case, he should be able to get a permit or not?
TIT. If there are any problems with his paperwork I'm sure a rich club like Muang Thong can make them go away. As you may know I life in Munich, and followed the stroy of his kickout in Oct 08 via the media. And he was not prosecuted. He never went to jail for that or anything like that. And you can believe me that the Bavarian / Munich police is one of the toughest in Germany. But there is one other point. I wonder all those signings of MTU are eligable to play for the AFC CL. Including Datsakron. Cause I checked the rules yesterday, and accoridng to this, the dealine for teams in the P/O was the 30 December. Wouldn't this mean that Goktan and Datsakron are not able to play? |
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« Reply #269 on: January 22, 2010, 05:56:34 PM » |
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On the other hand, if the guy has matured and wants to make amends, he could set the league alight.
Procurer has proven himself shrewd and he obviously feels this guy is worth a punt.
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« Reply #270 on: January 22, 2010, 09:05:48 PM » |
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I am pretty much sure, that if Berkan is able to deal with the circumstances of Thai Football, he can rock the league.
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« Reply #271 on: January 23, 2010, 10:15:23 AM » |
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"Procurer has proven himself shrewd and he obviously feels this guy is worth a punt."
And no doubt he's made himself a few quid into the bargain.
"I am pretty much sure, that if Berkan is able to deal with the circumstances of Thai Football, he can rock the league."
I don't think there's any doubt about his talent. It's how he copes with other distractions that will make or break him.
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« Reply #272 on: January 23, 2010, 06:29:30 PM » |
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Not quite sure what you mean there Dale but what I'm saying is that Procurer seems to be good at choosing the right players for MTU so I trust him to make good judgements. Any transfer is a gamble of course, especially when it's a relatively large fee.
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« Reply #275 on: January 27, 2010, 01:02:08 AM » |
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« Reply #276 on: January 27, 2010, 02:27:25 AM » |
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..but that is just the first part of the interview. you still need to get the second one. . Currywurst in Bavaria? Forget it.  Leberkaese or weisswurst, is the preferred one here. |
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« Reply #277 on: January 27, 2010, 10:35:42 AM » |
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Interesting stuff. Thanks chaps. I look forward to reading part two.
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« Reply #278 on: January 27, 2010, 11:31:00 AM » |
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Match officials for Da Nang vs Muangthong United ACL play-off KUALA LUMPUR: The AFC has appointed the following match officials for the AFC Champions League 2010 play-off match between Da Nang (Vietnam) and Muangthong United (Thailand) on January 31, 2010.
Match Commissioner
Manirul Islam (Bangladesh)
Referee Assessor
Chan Yam Ming Samuel (Hong Kong)
Referee
Subkhiddin Mohd Saleh (Malaysia)
Assistant Referees
Mu Yuxin (China)
Sabri Mat Daud (Malaysia)
Fourth Official
Mohd Nafeez Abdul Wahab (Malaysia)
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« Reply #279 on: January 27, 2010, 03:50:53 PM » |
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Any news regarding the probable line up? Cause I still like to know who is eligable to play for MTU in the CL. As already mentioend, the resistration deadline was 30 Dec officially. At least the games are on the weekend, so I should be able to follow them via internet. Does somebody of you knows already which channel will broadcast the game?
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« Reply #280 on: January 29, 2010, 04:27:05 PM » |
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KUALA LUMPUR: Muangthong United (Thailand) have registered the following players with AFC for the AFC Champions League 2010 Play-offs. (Squad No, Name, Position). All players are from Thailand unless stated. 1 - Phanphiphat Thanongsak (GK) 3 - Saensook Pakasit (D) 4 - Wongsa Panupong (D) 5 - Jitsawad Jietsada (D) 6 - Phanrit Nataporn (D) 8 - Kaewprom Jakkaphan (M) 10 - Dangda Teerasil (F) 11 - Thamaphan Piyachart (D) 13 - Kouakou Yao Christian (F, Cote D'ivoire) 14 - Winothai Teeratep (F) 15 - Sylla Moussa Guineenne (M, Guinea) 16 - Nontadee Phaitoon (M) 17 - Pannasi Wisarut (M) 18 - Ar-Romsawa Naruphol (M) 19 - Choeichiu Phichitphong (M) 20 - Thummanam Amorn (D) 23 - Buntao Piyaphon (M) 24 - Soumahoro Aliyoune Yaya (M, Cote D'ivoire) 26 - Thamsatchanan Kawin (GK) 28 - Zaizen Nobuyuki (M, Japan) 40 - Ukrit Wongmeema (GK) http://www.the-afc.com/en/inside-afc/676-afc-news/26771-muangthong-united-squad-list-for-acl-2010-play-offs |
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« Reply #281 on: January 29, 2010, 07:22:00 PM » |
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Why was Datsakorn Thonglao absent  As a Vietnamese newspaper said : Datsakorn also lost his captain position in national team . So , Nattaporn Phanrit was selected ? |
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« Reply #282 on: January 29, 2010, 07:33:42 PM » |
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Why was Datsakorn Thonglao absent As a Vietnamese newspaper said : Datsakorn also lost his captain position in national team . So , Nattaporn Phanrit was selected ? Like Loko said, the deadline was December, so he couldn't be included in the ACL squad (just qualifiers). As for national team captain, i don't know, but i get conflicting reports suggesting he still is, he isn't. But i do think Phanrit is the way forward personally. |
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« Reply #283 on: January 29, 2010, 08:17:12 PM » |
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Why was Datsakorn Thonglao absent As a Vietnamese newspaper said : Datsakorn also lost his captain position in national team . So , Nattaporn Phanrit was selected ? We only know from the viet news that MTU was willing to pay 7 Mio baht. But I cannot remember that there was an official announcement on the MTU page. Or even official presentation pics. Or did I missed something? @ Dru, I was reading the guideline paper from the AFC yes, but as per my understanding, the players nominated as above, are the once which may also have to play a grouphase!!! In the guideline was nothing mentioned about a second deadline for a groupphase. Like Loko said, the deadline was December, so he couldn't be included in the ACL squad (just qualifiers). As for national team captain, i don't know, but i get conflicting reports suggesting he still is, he isn't. But i do think Phanrit is the way forward personally. |
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« Reply #284 on: January 30, 2010, 12:31:39 AM » |
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They will be able to reselect the squad for the group phase. If the whole deadline for the tournament was Dec 30, then half the teams in Asia wouldn't be able using the same teams for league and ACL action.
As i understand it. Whoever makes the group phase can re-select their squad, and the same goes for the knockout stages aswell, whereas you can re-select your squad again. This is mainly because in Western Asia, new league seasons are starting so club personnel changes happen. What you must remember is that in East Asia we play ACL in one league season. In West Asia, the ACL campaign goes over two seasons.
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« Reply #285 on: January 30, 2010, 01:39:16 AM » |
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They will be able to reselect the squad for the group phase. If the whole deadline for the tournament was Dec 30, then half the teams in Asia wouldn't be able using the same teams for league and ACL action.
As i understand it. Whoever makes the group phase can re-select their squad, and the same goes for the knockout stages aswell, whereas you can re-select your squad again. This is mainly because in Western Asia, new league seasons are starting so club personnel changes happen. What you must remember is that in East Asia we play ACL in one league season. In West Asia, the ACL campaign goes over two seasons.
Sorry Dru, but the statement is quite clear from the AFC. Under Section 4, Point 35 a) i and ii it is stated: i. Teams entering from Play-off Stage : By 30 December, 2009 ii. Teams entering from Preliminary Stage : By 23 January, 2010 35 c) Seven (7) days prior to the first group match day (MD 1) of the Competition, teams may replace or add five (5) players in the official registration provided that the team does not exceed the maximum number of 30 registered players. For the knock out phase, you are able to reselect your squad in total as per my understanding. http://www.the-afc.com/uploads/Documents/regulation/acl2010comreg.pdf |
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« Reply #286 on: January 30, 2010, 02:30:01 AM » |
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Ok, rules have changed from last year, but look at 35 c) and it seems pointless as you can add or replace 5 players anyway. I don't think this is a major problem for teams that don't replace many players each season, except in Muang's case when they have practically added a whole new team.
35 c) Seven (7) days prior to the first group match day (MD 1) of the
Competition, teams may replace or add five (5) players in the official
registration provided that the team does not exceed the maximum
number of 30 registered players.
I don't think this rule is particulary fair for leagues that don't start until March (Thailand, China, Japan come to mind). How many teams get new players months in advance of their domestic leagues?
Anyway, with regards to the rules, its good to see AFC release something, so teams, fans and players actually know whats going on (if you care to read it), something FAT could pick up on.
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« Reply #287 on: January 30, 2010, 02:36:14 AM » |
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Tough trip for Muang Thong Utd
Published: 29/01/2010 at 12:00 AM
Newspaper section: Sports
Belgian Rene Desaeyere will begin his spell as Muang Thong United coach with a tricky AFC Champions League qualifier at Vietnam's SHB Da Nang on Sunday.
Desaeyere replaced Attapol Bussapakom who guided the Kirins to the Thai Premier League title last season but was recently moved "upstairs."
The Belgian admitted yesterday that Da Nang have many good players and will enjoy home-field advantage in the one-off match.
While he said his men are good enough to beat the Vietnamese side, he slammed the Asian Football Confederation (AFC) for not arranging home-and-away matches in the ACL qualifying round.
The winners of Sunday's game will meet either Singapore Armed Forces or Sriwijaya of Indonesia on Feb 6 for a place in the group stages. The losers in both matches will play in the AFC Cup.
My comment - This is the type of coach I don't like. He's only just turned up and he's already blasting the AFC for the one leg game.. Now, he's probably never looked at the reasons and logistics behind it.
It almost appears like he is getting in his excuse before the kickoff. I can see it being a long season of whinging and moaning from this geezer and i'm sure FAT will be lining him up for the NT job at some point.
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« Reply #288 on: January 30, 2010, 04:29:49 PM » |
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Yes sure, Desaeyere as new head, Tak as new Ass. Coach, have 11 players in the starting line up from MTU, Siam Sport makes the marketing for the NT. Nice one, MTU soon will rule the TPL, the NT and maybe later the FAT itself. *urrgh* what a picture. |
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« Reply #290 on: January 31, 2010, 04:53:16 PM » |
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« Reply #292 on: January 31, 2010, 05:57:02 PM » |
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I hope that at least next week, there is any TV Channel broadcasting the game vs SAFFC. Could be an interesting match.
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« Reply #295 on: January 31, 2010, 07:51:51 PM » |
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Off to Singapore they go. Will be much harder
Todays attendance was 14,000. SAFFC's attendance yesterday was 2,057, the joys of ACL football.
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Da Nang (VIE) 0-3 Muangthong United (THA)  
DA NANG – Muangthong United will face Singapore Armed Forces for a place in the 2010 AFC Champions League after the Thai side overcame nine-man Da Nang 3-0 at Chi Long Stadium.
The visitors went ahead through Panupong Wongsa in the 33rd minute and doubled that advantage on the stroke of half-time when Christian Kouakou (pictured) netted.
Da Nang were then reduced to 10 men when Tran Van Hoc picked up his second booking four minutes after the interval before substitute Jakkaphan Kaewprom
put the result beyond doubt in the 81st minute.
Rogerio also saw red for the hosts one minute from the end as the Vietnamese side saw their AFC Champions League dreams ended by the clinical Thais.
Da Nang controlled the opening half-hour but were unable to strike the first blow with forward Sebastian Merlo Gaston acutely feeling the absence of strike partner Almeida as he ploughed a lone furrow up front.
And the home fans were left stunned just after the half-hour mark when Muangthong went ahead.
The Thais had looked to threaten from set-pieces and they took the lead when a 40-yard free-kick was pumped into the box and Panupong out-jumped the home defence to divert the ball into the back of the net.
Da Nang were looking to return to continental competition for the first time following a four-year absence and Gaston missed a great chance to level when his close-range effort was repelled by Muangthong keeper Kawin Thamsatchanan.
The miss was made even more painful in the final minute of the first-half as the visitors extended their advantage with a fine strike when Kouakou dribbled down the right flank before curling the ball into the back of the net.
Da Nang's situation became even bleaker early in the second period when Van Hoc collected his second booking in the space of 12 minutes thanks to a mis-timed tackle as the defender's afternoon came to a premature end.
And their hopes were well and truly ended nine minutes from the end when Jakkaphan claimed Muangthong's third as he followed up to slot home after Kouakou had initially hit the post with a firm strike.
There was still time for Rogerio to follow Van Hoc down the tunnel for a second booking as Muangthong set-up a clash with Singaporean side SAF on February 6 for a place in Group G of the 2010 AFC Champions League.
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« Reply #298 on: January 31, 2010, 10:55:33 PM » |
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I am sorry charade, but I guess there will be no clip available. Not any TV station was broadcasting this game. So at least let's hope the best for next week. ...damn, an AFC CL Match at weekend, and nobody is broadcasting it.... Hic hic ... I searched it on everywhere but still be hopeless ... :  “I thought it was an even game,” Desaeyere said.
“We turned in a solid performance and managed to stand firm in the face of Da Nang's attacks. I was lucky that I also had players who were able to surprise our opponents.
“Da Nang still won my respect, they were just under a bit of pressure. However, I was still happy with our victory today.”
Desaeyere can now look forward to a clash with SAF on February 6 for a place in the 2010 edition of the AFC Champions League.
“The road ahead is not finished yet as we still need to play one more game to secure our places in AFC Champions League this season,” he added.
Da Nang coach Le Huynh Duc, meanwhile, felt Muangthong's clinical finishing ultimately proved the difference.
“We put 100% into our performance but Muangthong United were a bit stronger and luckier,” he said.
“Muangthong made use of their chances very well and that was the biggest difference in the match.
“I was unhappy as my players could not display the correct style of football that I had expected ahead of the clash. They lost their accuracy in the last minutes and were unable to get anything going.
“However, I could not criticise them as we have just finished the intensive preparation process for the new V-League season.”
Da Nang do have the consolation of a place in the AFC Cup but Huynh Duc admitted his side need to sharpen up if they are to progress to the later rounds of that competition.
“I thought that we would be still happy that Da Nang could compete at a continental level in the AFC Cup but I hope that my goalkeeper and defenders will not make the same mistakes that they did today. They lost their concentration for a while and it cost us.”
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