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« Reply #600 on: August 05, 2010, 04:13:33 PM »

MTU Vs Thai Port preview and interview with Marco and Jaranuwat:
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« Reply #601 on: August 05, 2010, 04:52:04 PM »

Yaya was a exception. He was the best player in the league on his day. However, can you honestly say that the vast majority of imports are better than the local lads? I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of foreigners I've seen over the past 13 years who are superior to the Thai players I've seen during the same period.

Ney Fabiano and Nasciamento (sp) at TTM a few years ago were probably the only ones who could rival Yaya. The rest are purely making up the numbers.

Most of the African players who have played for Chonburi since 2004 came via the same agent. He was all over us like a rash when we started doing well.


So I'm still waiting for you to point out that "plenty of local talent" that can match this guy at a similar price:


I've even bought wheels for my car! :-)
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« Reply #602 on: August 05, 2010, 05:02:09 PM »

Hey do Thai players, agents and club managers all belong to Transparency International? Are the African agents/players at Chonburi et al. close relatives of Desmond Tutu?

Like I said, show me the local talent who has the potential to equal Yaya and I'll drive Robert to his home myself. (Mind you, with my driving we'd be lucky to get there alive!)

There's plenty of local talent around. However, certain people have personal interests in bringing African players to Thailand and have been doing so for years. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it. Wink

I think you're right, and to remove the risk of any corruption we should ban any team from buying African players. All teams must show financial transparency by purchasing only within Thailand. Violators must be removed!

At least that way Army FC have a chance to win the league!

Please point out some of the highly rated local talent so we can begin our purge!

t_e, isn't it for the likes of MTU, and Chonburi for that matter, to unearth the local talent instead of shipping over loads of Africans, most of whom aren't good enough?
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« Reply #603 on: August 05, 2010, 05:11:26 PM »

A clip on You Tube? Who were the opponents? What level of football was this? Please tell me that you are not basing all your judgements on this player from a three minute video clip? He may turn out to be a world beater but I'll reserve my judgement until I've actually seen him play a few times. There are many other factors to consider - Is he physically tough enough? Is he mentally tough enough? Will he get homesick? Will he like the food? etc etc

Since I've been doing my website I've been sent links to videos and cvs from players all over the world. They all look like a cross between George Best, Pele, Maradona and Andy Ritchie on tape. It's not difficult to cobble something together.

Puritat Jarigarnon at Chonburi is the most promising new player I've seen this season. The fact that he's already been called up to the full national team and the TPL All Stars seems to back up my judgement. Sukree Etae is another one who looks set to go the whole way. And there are many amongst the current Thai national team squad who I rate highly. You could probably even afford to buy them. Wink
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« Reply #604 on: August 05, 2010, 05:13:49 PM »

It's one thing I am very proud of at BG.

Although, we are rich, and are trying to currently buy our way to success, we do also have a fantastic academy for young Thai players.

Light years ahead of any other club in Thailand if Hans Emser is to be believed.
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« Reply #605 on: August 05, 2010, 05:18:33 PM »

Hey do Thai players, agents and club managers all belong to Transparency International? Are the African agents/players at Chonburi et al. close relatives of Desmond Tutu?

Like I said, show me the local talent who has the potential to equal Yaya and I'll drive Robert to his home myself. (Mind you, with my driving we'd be lucky to get there alive!)

There's plenty of local talent around. However, certain people have personal interests in bringing African players to Thailand and have been doing so for years. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it. Wink

I think you're right, and to remove the risk of any corruption we should ban any team from buying African players. All teams must show financial transparency by purchasing only within Thailand. Violators must be removed!

At least that way Army FC have a chance to win the league!

Please point out some of the highly rated local talent so we can begin our purge!

t_e, isn't it for the likes of MTU, and Chonburi for that matter, to unearth the local talent instead of shipping over loads of Africans, most of whom aren't good enough?

I'm not sure that I agree entirely with that, Vinnie. It's the club's duty to buy the best players they can to do a job for the team. However, I do agree that there are far too many imports who are sub-standard - we've had a fair few duffers over the years.  I'd like to see less foreigners in the league and the 7+5 rule certainly needs looking at. But while certain people are calling the shots, it's unlikely to change.
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« Reply #606 on: August 05, 2010, 05:40:53 PM »

It's one thing I am very proud of at BG.

Although, we are rich, and are trying to currently buy our way to success, we do also have a fantastic academy for young Thai players.

Light years ahead of any other club in Thailand if Hans Emser is to be believed.

It's something that BG deserve a lot of credit for and it shows forward thinking. Assumption College in SriRacha has been producing good quality Thai players for years now. In fact the core of our current squad are all graduates. There are also some talented players among the latest crop of 16 to 18 year olds.
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« Reply #607 on: August 05, 2010, 06:01:28 PM »

Light years ahead of any other club in Thailand if Hans Emser is to be believed.

Something in these sentence leaves me with a strange feeling.  Grin
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« Reply #608 on: August 05, 2010, 06:38:16 PM »

Dale, I'm pulling your chain of course, and naturally you are quite right to say that with enough video footage, anyone can be made to look like Le Tiss.

But joking aside, I do believe that it's totally unfair to imply that anything untoward is going on or that it's wrong or foolish to go looking for good foreign players - African or whatever - to play in the TPL. Every team has African players and it strikes me as silly to single out Robert/MTU for criticism for bringing them in.

Do you really think the Thai players you mention would be a) sold by Chonburi or b) within, say, fifty percent of the price of an African player of similar standard?

Didn't every TPL club vote on the foreigners rule? If so, then wouldn't the "certain people" be the majority? I could be wrong on this.

Lest anyone think that we are not nurturing home grown talent, MTU are building a full youth team as well as putting money into Rajpracha and the ThaiBev Football Academy. I understand Phuket FC have a youth policy, too. PS H/T Sven, Lessaw has joined BEC Tero on load for the rest of the season.
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« Reply #609 on: August 05, 2010, 07:04:27 PM »

I'm sure that we could make up a three minute video of Le Tissier from his 15 year career that would make him look OK. Smiley

I haven't said that anything untoward is occuring and there's nothing wrong with signing quality talent from overseas and using your contacts to do so. However, to my knowledge, RP has been acting as an agent for African players for a good number of years and has been responsible for bringing a large number of them into the TPL - he's certainly provided us with a few. He won't have been doing this out of the goodness of his heart. The perception could be that there is an incentive for MTUFC to sign players from Africa. You can see why outsiders might raise an eyebrow or two every time you buy another one.

As far as I'm aware there wasn't universal support for the 7+5 rule but, again, one club who were in very much in favour have greatly benefited from it being adopted. Cue more eyebrow raising.

When we met the other week we discussed the fact that MTU's last match of the season is "away" at TOT. As we both agreed, sometimes you need to be very careful not to give others this kind of ammunition. As I said to you at the time, I don't think it will matter by then but.....even so.........................(my eyebrows are on top of my head Wink)

Leesaw to BEC Tero has got to be the worst move in history. What is he thinking?!?!?!
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« Reply #610 on: August 05, 2010, 07:24:20 PM »

When we met the other week we discussed the fact that MTU's last match of the season is "away" at TOT. As we both agreed, sometimes you need to be very careful not to give others this kind of ammunition. As I said to you at the time, I don't think it will matter by then but.....even so.........................(my eyebrows are on top of my head Wink)

Leesaw to BEC Tero has got to be the worst move in history. What is he thinking?!?!?!

^^ my eyebrows are up now. I haven't been aware of that.

I thought the same regarding Leesaw. It might be a smart move in other times. But not at the moment, when everybody trys to runaway from BEC.
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« Reply #611 on: August 05, 2010, 07:27:00 PM »



Leesaw to BEC Tero has got to be the worst move in history. What is he thinking?!?!?!

Guaranteed start, I s'pose.
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« Reply #612 on: August 05, 2010, 08:03:06 PM »

I'm sure that we could make up a three minute video of Le Tissier from his 15 year career that would make him look OK. Smiley

I haven't said that anything untoward is occuring and there's nothing wrong with signing quality talent from overseas and using your contacts to do so. However, to my knowledge, RP has been acting as an agent for African players for a good number of years and has been responsible for bringing a large number of them into the TPL - he's certainly provided us with a few. He won't have been doing this out of the goodness of his heart. The perception could be that there is an incentive for MTUFC to sign players from Africa. You can see why outsiders might raise an eyebrow or two every time you buy another one.

As far as I'm aware there wasn't universal support for the 7+5 rule but, again, one club who were in very much in favour have greatly benefited from it being adopted. Cue more eyebrow raising.

When we met the other week we discussed the fact that MTU's last match of the season is "away" at TOT. As we both agreed, sometimes you need to be very careful not to give others this kind of ammunition. As I said to you at the time, I don't think it will matter by then but.....even so.........................(my eyebrows are on top of my head Wink)

Leesaw to BEC Tero has got to be the worst move in history. What is he thinking?!?!?!

I'm sure there was information on this foreigners quota but I can't find it anywhere. I seem to recall all TPL teams voted on it. Can anyone find a link? Unless we have good reason to believe that MTU had undue influence on the ruling, it's totally unfair to suggest they did.

If you object to the import of foreign players on some kind of principle, I can empathise. What I felt was unfair was the insinuation that backhanders were going around, or at least only at one club.

I don't see the connection between this foreigners issue and the issue of our final "away" game being at home. It is unfortunate, I'm not at all happy about it but I'm confident it's due to chance and incompetence and nothing else. The move of Raj to the TD was a political issue and MTU had little say, I've been told this by sources from both sides. As for TOT, well when you see the way they have been managed, it seems obvious they are incompetent too. It would not surprise me in the least if MTU were obliged to house them. The money we get from the rent is probably less than the cost of wear and tear on a strained pitch.

In short, I really don't think you can read any conspiracy into it.

And Sven, if you didn't notice this already, then you didn't read my blog :-)


As for Leesaw, well perhaps he puts more importance on actually playing than we thought.
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« Reply #613 on: August 05, 2010, 08:23:48 PM »

And Sven, if you didn't notice this already, then you didn't read my blog :-)

Well at least my news feed reader is "reading" your blog Wink I do have a look at nearly all blogs and sites in one shot. But sometimes, I do not go through all articles. Wink
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« Reply #614 on: August 06, 2010, 12:37:36 AM »

I'm sure that we could make up a three minute video of Le Tissier from his 15 year career that would make him look OK. Smiley

I haven't said that anything untoward is occuring and there's nothing wrong with signing quality talent from overseas and using your contacts to do so. However, to my knowledge, RP has been acting as an agent for African players for a good number of years and has been responsible for bringing a large number of them into the TPL - he's certainly provided us with a few. He won't have been doing this out of the goodness of his heart. The perception could be that there is an incentive for MTUFC to sign players from Africa. You can see why outsiders might raise an eyebrow or two every time you buy another one.

As far as I'm aware there wasn't universal support for the 7+5 rule but, again, one club who were in very much in favour have greatly benefited from it being adopted. Cue more eyebrow raising.

When we met the other week we discussed the fact that MTU's last match of the season is "away" at TOT. As we both agreed, sometimes you need to be very careful not to give others this kind of ammunition. As I said to you at the time, I don't think it will matter by then but.....even so.........................(my eyebrows are on top of my head Wink)

Leesaw to BEC Tero has got to be the worst move in history. What is he thinking?!?!?!

I'm sure there was information on this foreigners quota but I can't find it anywhere. I seem to recall all TPL teams voted on it. Can anyone find a link? Unless we have good reason to believe that MTU had undue influence on the ruling, it's totally unfair to suggest they did.

If you object to the import of foreign players on some kind of principle, I can empathise. What I felt was unfair was the insinuation that backhanders were going around, or at least only at one club.

I don't see the connection between this foreigners issue and the issue of our final "away" game being at home. It is unfortunate, I'm not at all happy about it but I'm confident it's due to chance and incompetence and nothing else. The move of Raj to the TD was a political issue and MTU had little say, I've been told this by sources from both sides. As for TOT, well when you see the way they have been managed, it seems obvious they are incompetent too. It would not surprise me in the least if MTU were obliged to house them. The money we get from the rent is probably less than the cost of wear and tear on a strained pitch.

In short, I really don't think you can read any conspiracy into it.

And Sven, if you didn't notice this already, then you didn't read my blog :-)


As for Leesaw, well perhaps he puts more importance on actually playing than we thought.

The perception is that MTU get special treatment. Most fans of other Thai clubs believe this to be the case. TOT "away" on the last day of the season? What are we supposed to think? Anybody with any sense whatsoever would have avoided this scenario. Wouldn't they? There's your connection. It smacks of favouritism/cronyism.

There was no insuation in any of my posts to suggest that "backhanders" were/are involved. I'm confident that everything is above board. RP was/is an agent who has been involved in bringing African players into Thai football for a number of years. That is a fact. MTUFC have a large number of African players in their squad. That is another fact. MTUFC were/are in favour of the 7+5 rule. Another fact.

RP is possibly responsible for bringing these players to MTUFC and may or may not be making a profit from the deals. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with this but people will jump to conclusions.

Personally, I think that allowing so many foreign players in the league doesn't benefit Thai football as a whole. I'd much rather the limit was much lower. However, we are stuck with it. Good luck to MTU. You are the best team in the league and will win the title. I've never had a problem with that. I just wish that you could do it with a little more grace. (When I say "you" I don't mean you - you're a good bloke Smiley - I mean your club). You (your club) do come across as being rather humourless. And, in my book, that is the biggest crime you can commit. Smiley

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« Reply #615 on: August 06, 2010, 01:11:51 AM »


Personally, I think that allowing so many foreign players in the league doesn't benefit Thai football as a whole.



That is simply the main point. And nothing else counts. If the quoata would be less than 7, we may would have not this discussion now.  Smiley
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« Reply #616 on: August 06, 2010, 01:23:09 AM »


Personally, I think that allowing so many foreign players in the league doesn't benefit Thai football as a whole.



That is simply the main point. And nothing else counts. If the quoata would be less than 7, we may would have not this discussion now.  Smiley

I'm not holding my breath but I'd like to think that this rule will be changed. In time it would be great to see the best players, regardless of where they come from, playing in the TPL but I think that just now we should impose a much stricter limit on the number of imports.
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« Reply #617 on: August 06, 2010, 01:37:56 AM »



Leesaw to BEC Tero has got to be the worst move in history. What is he thinking?!?!?!

Guaranteed start, I s'pose.

As he's the only player left at the club, I would think that is a nailled on certainty. Wink
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« Reply #618 on: August 06, 2010, 02:41:31 AM »


Leesaw to BEC Tero has got to be the worst move in history. What is he thinking?!?!?!

Back home i guess, and a promise from Tero founder Wowrai of a place in the AFF Cup squad
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« Reply #619 on: August 06, 2010, 02:46:00 AM »


Leesaw to BEC Tero has got to be the worst move in history. What is he thinking?!?!?!

Back home i guess, and a promise from Tero founder Wowrai of a place in the AFF Cup squad

Rumours abound that MTU wouldn't let him go to Chonburi, PEA, Thai Port or BKK Glass.
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« Reply #620 on: August 06, 2010, 02:50:42 AM »


Leesaw to BEC Tero has got to be the worst move in history. What is he thinking?!?!?!

Back home i guess, and a promise from Tero founder Wowrai of a place in the AFF Cup squad

Rumours abound that MTU wouldn't let him go to Chonburi, PEA, Thai Port or BKK Glass.

I think that rumour is probably true.

But why be so scared of letting a player they don't really rate go?
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« Reply #621 on: August 06, 2010, 03:01:48 AM »

Whether it is true or not, it shows a disturbing lack of ambition from Leesaw. I've always rated him as a player, and liked him as a person, but there have to be question marks against his judgement. What a strange, strange decision.
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« Reply #622 on: August 06, 2010, 03:18:41 AM »

Whether it is true or not, it shows a disturbing lack of ambition from Leesaw. I've always rated him as a player, and liked him as a person, but there have to be question marks against his judgement. What a strange, strange decision.

It does seem his confidence has taken a knock since coming back from Belgium.

I suppose it also hasn't helped him since aslong as I've been following Thai football anyway, that he has always been the man, and since he went away the game suddenly exploded, we had lads going to Australia and suddenly he wasn't the man. He was off the radar. Had a bad AFF Cup in 2008 by his standards.

It could be a case that he has outgrown the TPL , but can't make the grade in Europe, a stint in Korea, Japan or Australia may benefit him.

But it does seem he went to BEC because he had no other option. Everything else was cancelled out for him, but it's only the same as what Fergie would do at Man U.

He might have taken bad advice along the way, but he would probably be the first to say he just wants to play football, but that might just be a mask for other things, probably disapointment in himself and his performances.
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« Reply #623 on: August 06, 2010, 04:25:00 AM »

Same to Srirashark, i like the player but also the person. I also think he is bad advice, the transfer to Lierse show it!
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« Reply #624 on: August 06, 2010, 05:26:11 AM »

Leesaw has everything he probably need. No matter what he he is doing, sitting on the bench or not, whether he is a nice guy or not. He always is and was a superstar in Thailand....oh wait.... there is someone looking beautiful as he, and is now playing in the TPL and turns the attantion away from him, oh my god...

..sitting on the bench..being happy with my life as superstar...getting good money.. but what if nobody is interested in me anymore?

Don't get me wrong, he is a good player. He has a lot of good skills, but in my oppinion, and I was confirmed by that, as long as he don't need to work hard to maintain his status, he may fine. To say it nice.  Some players, even in Europe dont have his skills, but they have one thing that bring them up, even they are limited players. Olic and Mueller from Bayern are such kind of players. 

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« Reply #625 on: August 06, 2010, 12:01:43 PM »



Leesaw to BEC Tero has got to be the worst move in history. What is he thinking?!?!?!

Guaranteed start, I s'pose.

As he's the only player left at the club, I would think that is a nailled on certainty. Wink

Promphong must be gutted. Just as he thought he would have a chance of getting a start!

Come back to what you know, lad.
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« Reply #626 on: August 06, 2010, 02:51:49 PM »

Hey do Thai players, agents and club managers all belong to Transparency International? Are the African agents/players at Chonburi et al. close relatives of Desmond Tutu?

Like I said, show me the local talent who has the potential to equal Yaya and I'll drive Robert to his home myself. (Mind you, with my driving we'd be lucky to get there alive!)

There's plenty of local talent around. However, certain people have personal interests in bringing African players to Thailand and have been doing so for years. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it. Wink

I think you're right, and to remove the risk of any corruption we should ban any team from buying African players. All teams must show financial transparency by purchasing only within Thailand. Violators must be removed!

At least that way Army FC have a chance to win the league!

Please point out some of the highly rated local talent so we can begin our purge!

t_e, isn't it for the likes of MTU, and Chonburi for that matter, to unearth the local talent instead of shipping over loads of Africans, most of whom aren't good enough?

I'm not sure that I agree entirely with that, Vinnie. It's the club's duty to buy the best players they can to do a job for the team. However, I do agree that there are far too many imports who are sub-standard - we've had a fair few duffers over the years.  I'd like to see less foreigners in the league and the 7+5 rule certainly needs looking at. But while certain people are calling the shots, it's unlikely to change.

I take that point: that the coach has to assemble the best team he can whether that means using local talent or bringing in foreigners. It's certainly in the long term interests of a club to develop as many home grown players as possible.
It's just remarkable, is it not, that when a club in Thailand does decide to import players, that out of some 200 countries in the world, almost all of these foreigners come from one of three west African countries.
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« Reply #627 on: August 06, 2010, 02:57:41 PM »

It's not remarkable and it's not a coincidence. N'est pas? Wink
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« Reply #628 on: August 06, 2010, 03:14:02 PM »

It's certainly in the long term interests of a club to develop as many home grown players as possible.

really? How many of them are playing for Reall Madrid, Inter Mailand, Chelsea, Liverpool, United and espacially Arsenal? I guess you can extend the list easily.
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« Reply #629 on: August 06, 2010, 03:19:06 PM »

It's certainly in the long term interests of a club to develop as many home grown players as possible.

really? How many of them are playing for Reall Madrid, Inter Mailand, Chelsea, Liverpool, United and espacially Arsenal? I guess you can extend the list easily.


I'm guessing that Vinnie was talking about Thai clubs? And, to be fair, M*n U*d do produce a lot of homegrown players who end up in the first team. They've even been known to steal them from the Oldham youth team - Paul Scholes being one.
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« Reply #630 on: August 06, 2010, 03:21:30 PM »



Leesaw to BEC Tero has got to be the worst move in history. What is he thinking?!?!?!

Guaranteed start, I s'pose.

As he's the only player left at the club, I would think that is a nailled on certainty. Wink

Promphong must be gutted. Just as he thought he would have a chance of getting a start!

Come back to what you know, lad.

So he really was "just visiting" last week? That wasn't a euphemism.
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« Reply #631 on: August 06, 2010, 03:26:45 PM »



Leesaw to BEC Tero has got to be the worst move in history. What is he thinking?!?!?!

Guaranteed start, I s'pose.

As he's the only player left at the club, I would think that is a nailled on certainty. Wink

Promphong must be gutted. Just as he thought he would have a chance of getting a start!

Come back to what you know, lad.

So he really was "just visiting" last week? That wasn't a euphemism.

We'll have to wait and see.
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« Reply #632 on: August 06, 2010, 03:47:18 PM »

Re Leesaw: let's remember it's only a loan. Perhaps he wants to bang in some goals, make sure Tero stay up and win his place back with MTU that way. Tero are a good club and I'm not as shocked as some of you that he's happy to go on loan there.

Re Africans, you guys are putting two and two together and making five. Yes of course there are probably some extra 'incentives' but also remember the economics and demographics. African players are probably willing to play for far lower salaries than their western counterparts. They also, on average, are physically bigger and stronger than Thais so they add that dimension to a team.  I know you guys know this already, but you seem to have forgotten it for a moment!
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« Reply #633 on: August 06, 2010, 04:09:28 PM »


Re Africans, you guys are putting two and two together and making five. Yes of course there are probably some extra 'incentives' but also remember the economics and demographics. African players are probably willing to play for far lower salaries than their western counterparts. They also, on average, are physically bigger and stronger than Thais so they add that dimension to a team.  I know you guys know this already, but you seem to have forgotten it for a moment!

And they all just happen to come from the same three countries: Ghana, Ivory Coast and Cameroon. That's what I find interesting. There are obviously agents and agencies that are doing very well out of this situation.
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« Reply #634 on: August 06, 2010, 04:17:04 PM »

Two new signings: (No 'I told you so' please Vinnie, they may be great players! :-) )
 
http://muangthongunitedfc.blogspot.com/2010/08/two-new-signings.html
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« Reply #635 on: August 06, 2010, 05:50:28 PM »

When was Leesaw's loan deal from Lierse to Muangthong made permanent? I must have missed that one. As recently as three or four weeks ago, the AFC website mentioned that he is still only a loan player at MTU. Can anyone provide evidence to the contrary?

"Before departing to play in the Jupiler League, where on loan Muangthong team-mate and Thailand international Teerathep Winothai plays for Lierse."

Link: http://www.the-afc.com/en/afc-cup-2010/29714-soumahoro-sad-to-leave-second-home



I am not sure but I believe, that sometimes a kind of sub loaning is possible. I think I have seen this in Europe already. Nevertheless, two things in thai football are rare to find. Informations regarding a contract, even the situation improved on that, and transfer fees.
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« Reply #636 on: August 06, 2010, 06:47:08 PM »

Narongchai Vachiraban (from Police United) and Kittipol Paphunga (from BEC Tero) have both joined Muang Thong United

Kittipol signed from BEC for 1.5 million baht and Narongchai will be on loan from Police United until the end of the season
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« Reply #637 on: August 06, 2010, 07:25:11 PM »

Thanks for the info Natt, I can't cofnirm the fee we paid for Kittipol, where did you read that? I also read he is awaiting surgery and cannot play yet?
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« Reply #638 on: August 06, 2010, 07:31:01 PM »

Thanks for the info Natt, I can't cofnirm the fee we paid for Kittipol, where did you read that? I also read he is awaiting surgery and cannot play yet?


http://sport.teenee.com/thai/64731.html

it's in thai, if you can read thai then you can understand fully
not sure if you use google translate because it may say something random lol
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« Reply #639 on: August 06, 2010, 10:53:55 PM »

MTU have now a crazy team.
Kittipon, everybody know him. For me, he is Datsakorn n°2 with good spirit.
About Narongchai, i think of him very high, i already told it but he is for me the best midifielder of Thailand when he is serious.
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« Reply #640 on: August 06, 2010, 11:46:05 PM »

Bangkok Glass is not bad either. Smiley
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« Reply #641 on: August 07, 2010, 03:16:45 AM »

two big squads loko, problem is that they are too big and too many changes

Good teams dont need to make many changes at this point in a season
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« Reply #642 on: August 07, 2010, 04:22:32 AM »

I would like to agree. But no matter which team, and that is an annyoing thing for me, is switching its players around always during the halftime break. Compared to a winterbreak in Europe, I have no clue why Thai clubs are doing this.

On the other hand, Glass is looking more balanced now than 6 months ago with the new signings they did now.

If good tems don't need changes, CFC might become Champion at the end of 2010 season. But I think it isn't it at all.
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« Reply #643 on: August 07, 2010, 06:36:16 AM »

There's always room for improvement and all our transfers make sense.
Sylla - most likely an offer we couldn't refuse.
Yaya - was too good for the Thai league, deserved the chance to try and make an impact in Europe, albeit in a small league.
Gotken - Unsettled, to put it nicely. Financial liability.
Leesaw - was not making the first team and lost his confidence.

Abdoul - Replaces Sylla
Ibrahim - One for the future
Naraongchai - As we've seen, very highly rated. Perhaps similar to Zaizen but without the health problems.
Kittipon - As above. Part of the leesaw deal? Only concern may be the surgery.

It's no net increase  and Rob and Rene have already said they are using a rotation system due to the number of games we are playing. The only thing I would like to change is to get a right back in on loan unless Pakasit is back to fitness.
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« Reply #644 on: August 07, 2010, 07:06:14 AM »


Sylla - most likely an offer we couldn't refuse.


Yes, it most definitely was - We paid a LOT of money for him. I don't know the transfer fees of any other of our signings, but I do know Sylla's.

But he has started like a house on fire, Man of the match in both games so far. Highly under rated player.
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« Reply #645 on: August 07, 2010, 12:43:29 PM »


Sylla - most likely an offer we couldn't refuse.


likely to be the best midfielder in Bangkok Glass FC or maybe the best player there

Narongchai is just there till the end of the season for Kittipon since he's injured until the end of the season. Muang Thong said that Kittipon is unlikely to make a debut until next season.

But recently Police United said that they might want to sell Narongchai since he's not going to start much so I can see him not returning to Police United even after the loan.

Yes, it most definitely was - We paid a LOT of money for him. I don't know the transfer fees of any other of our signings, but I do know Sylla's.

But he has started like a house on fire, Man of the match in both games so far. Highly under rated player.
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« Reply #646 on: August 07, 2010, 01:05:13 PM »

There's always room for improvement and all our transfers make sense.
Sylla - most likely an offer we couldn't refuse.
Yaya - was too good for the Thai league, deserved the chance to try and make an impact in Europe, albeit in a small league.
Gotken - Unsettled, to put it nicely. Financial liability.
Leesaw - was not making the first team and lost his confidence.

Abdoul - Replaces Sylla
Ibrahim - One for the future

Naraongchai - As we've seen, very highly rated. Perhaps similar to Zaizen but without the health problems.
Kittipon - As above. Part of the leesaw deal? Only concern may be the surgery.

It's no net increase  and Rob and Rene have already said they are using a rotation system due to the number of games we are playing. The only thing I would like to change is to get a right back in on loan unless Pakasit is back to fitness.

after doing some research
here are the 2 players' profiles

Abdoul Coulibaly
Centre Midfield
Number 15
formerly played for the Ivory Coast champions ASEC Mimosas
signed for 5 million baht
2 years-contract

Ibrahim Kanoute
Left Winger
Abidjan Academy (JMG Academy)
signed for 5 million baht
5 years-contract

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« Reply #647 on: August 07, 2010, 03:28:26 PM »

I don't see a good right back available on loan. It's very difficult to find one good enough for MTU.
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« Reply #648 on: August 07, 2010, 05:06:55 PM »

I don't see a good right back available on loan. It's very difficult to find one good enough for MTU.


I think Apichet Puttan (PEA Captain) is a really good right back although I haven't watched PEA in a decade so I'm not sure if he's still good or not haha
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« Reply #649 on: August 07, 2010, 09:34:47 PM »

I also think Apichet is not bad but do you think PEA will give it to another team? He is the captain!!!
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