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« Reply #550 on: July 02, 2010, 01:06:00 AM » |
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According to KAA Gent's website, they have signed Yaya on a 3 year deal. http://www.kaagent.be/actueel/1/01-07-2010/kaa-gent-legt-yaya-soumahoro-vast-voor-3-jaarTranslation: 01/07/2010 KAA Gent Soumahoro Yaya lays down for 3 years KAA Gent realized today is a new transfer: Yaya Soumahoro, the 20-year old Ivorian striker of the Thai Muang Thong United team champion, will play the next three seasons for the Buffalo's. Yaya is a typical "left out" this season under the leadership of coach Rene Desaeyere became the flavor of the Thai competition. Scout Gunther Schepens saw him at work: "Yaya is technically very strong, has an excellent conversion, scores and it causes many crucial assists. He will, of course, an adjustment needs but I feel eventually become one of the revelations in our league. " |
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« Reply #551 on: July 02, 2010, 05:47:29 AM » |
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Thanks Marco, I knew something was in the works. This may not be the last transfer out, either.
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« Reply #552 on: July 02, 2010, 06:23:20 AM » |
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Thanks Marco, I knew something was in the works. This may not be the last transfer out, either.
Any news on Leesaw? He was linked with a move to TOT-CAT, but that seems to have gone quiet. |
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« Reply #553 on: July 02, 2010, 11:34:59 AM » |
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Thanks Marco, I knew something was in the works. This may not be the last transfer out, either.
Any news on Leesaw? He was linked with a move to TOT-CAT, but that seems to have gone quiet. He was also linked with us for a while too, but it didn't prove popular with our fans. Besides, we already have an abundance of players in the same or similar positions so I can't see him coming to us. I reckon a deal is already done with someone, hence why all is quiet on the Leesaw front. |
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« Reply #554 on: July 02, 2010, 12:28:33 PM » |
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Thanks Marco, I knew something was in the works. This may not be the last transfer out, either.
Any news on Leesaw? He was linked with a move to TOT-CAT, but that seems to have gone quiet. He was also linked with us for a while too, but it didn't prove popular with our fans. Besides, we already have an abundance of players in the same or similar positions so I can't see him coming to us. I reckon a deal is already done with someone, hence why all is quiet on the Leesaw front. I know he's not Brazilian but............. http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/chonburifc/club_news.pl?news=372024Personally, I'd love to see him at our place. |
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« Reply #555 on: July 02, 2010, 02:18:05 PM » |
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« Reply #556 on: July 02, 2010, 05:44:59 PM » |
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« Reply #557 on: July 02, 2010, 06:00:21 PM » |
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Didn't any of you read my report on Leesaw in the last match? :-)
There's been no contact with BG or TOT concerning Leesaw that I've heard of. I think what happened is that one rumour got out and that became 'Chinese Whispers', with every TPL club imagining they might be signing him.
Of course the odds are that Yaya would go to Belgium as that's where Robert has contacts. I don't think it's fair to speculate they are profiting by the backhand from it.
I think his replacement does come from Africa, his name is Christian Yao Koukou.
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« Reply #558 on: July 02, 2010, 07:22:31 PM » |
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Of course the odds are that Yaya would go to Belgium as that's where Robert has contacts. I don't think it's fair to speculate they are profiting by the backhand from it.
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« Reply #559 on: July 02, 2010, 09:09:26 PM » |
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Of course the odds are that Yaya would go to Belgium as that's where Robert has contacts. I don't think it's fair to speculate they are profiting by the backhand from it.
Maybe not Rene, but I can't believe that Procureur is constantly moving players around between West Africa, Belgium and Thailand just for the fun of it. Of course he's not. He's doing it to build up the team and make profits on players that are developed by the club. Isn't that how football works? When a Thai coach sells a player to a Thai team, do you speculate on backhanders then, too? |
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« Reply #560 on: July 02, 2010, 11:32:29 PM » |
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RP has been hawking African players around the Thai leagues for a number of years. I used to see him quite regularly at matches, always with a few lads in tow. He was a frequent visitor to Chonburi when we started doing well. Nothing wrong with this, it was all above board and he's been responsible for introducing some talented players to the local game, but now he seems to have a conflict of interests - as a coach and as an agent -, you can see where Vinnie is coming from.
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« Reply #561 on: July 03, 2010, 06:37:22 AM » |
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Is Robert officially an agent? That's not his job title. Apart from Army FC, how many clubs do not have African players on their books?
I would think that if personal profit was the priority, it would be far easier selling to another Asian club than to Belgium.
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« Reply #562 on: July 03, 2010, 12:43:10 PM » |
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He certainly was. And, I'm willing to bet that, a large number of those African players have come through the same route.
Like I said, I used to see him at loads of games, accompanied by various players, and he was always deep in conversation with officials from different Thai clubs.
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« Reply #563 on: July 03, 2010, 03:24:02 PM » |
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And isn't he the boss of Académie JMG Thailand?
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« Reply #564 on: July 03, 2010, 03:52:48 PM » |
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« Reply #565 on: July 13, 2010, 06:55:48 PM » |
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« Reply #566 on: July 13, 2010, 08:19:32 PM » |
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« Reply #568 on: July 13, 2010, 09:58:54 PM » |
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« Reply #569 on: July 14, 2010, 06:03:41 AM » |
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We've just sold two, remember.
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« Reply #570 on: July 14, 2010, 12:50:40 PM » |
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Guys, i will be attending Muang Thong vs Sisaket on the 17th, any idea which buses pass the Thunderdome Stadium from Bangkok ?
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« Reply #571 on: July 14, 2010, 03:21:03 PM » |
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We've just sold two, remember.
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« Reply #572 on: July 14, 2010, 03:38:18 PM » |
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Beatdalen, which direction are you coming from?
If you are coming from Victory Monument , get the 166 to IMPACT and make the short walk. There's no bus I know of that goes right past the TD but Impact is less than five minutes walk or a 10 baht motorbike away :-)
PM me if you need any more help or want someone to sit with.
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« Reply #574 on: July 23, 2010, 03:24:54 PM » |
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@ t.e. Will Berkannt send back home to Germany?
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« Reply #575 on: July 23, 2010, 04:05:29 PM » |
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Yes I'm afraid so. It's been known for a while that he was not settling in, to put it nicely.
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« Reply #576 on: July 24, 2010, 11:43:10 PM » |
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...and Georgi from TOT to MTU?
Signing Geogi would be a big mistake for Muangthong. There's no doubting that he has the talent, but his attitude sucks. He does zero defensive work and he gives up every time he doesn't get the ball from his teammates. He seems to think that he's too good for this league. |
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« Reply #577 on: July 25, 2010, 09:25:51 AM » |
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Yes I'm afraid so. It's been known for a while that he was not settling in, to put it nicely.
Come on t_e, give us the details! He's gone now so there's no need for discretion. |
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« Reply #578 on: July 25, 2010, 04:25:34 PM » |
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...and Georgi from TOT to MTU?
Signing Geogi would be a big mistake for Muangthong. There's no doubting that he has the talent, but his attitude sucks. He does zero defensive work and he gives up every time he doesn't get the ball from his teammates. He seems to think that he's too good for this league. Maybe the marketing department from MTU told the club to sign a bad boy. |
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« Reply #579 on: July 31, 2010, 10:10:00 AM » |
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I saw on a few websites that the Muangthong v Thai Port was originally scheduled for Fri 6 Aug. I have since seen that the game has been moved to Sunday 8th. I assume that this is now the correct date. It's a pity because I was looking forward to going to the Friday night game and having a few beers before and after the game.  It's not the same when you have to go to work the next day. Pity!  |
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« Reply #580 on: July 31, 2010, 02:49:46 PM » |
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I saw on a few websites that the Muangthong v Thai Port was originally scheduled for Fri 6 Aug. I have since seen that the game has been moved to Sunday 8th. I assume that this is now the correct date. It's a pity because I was looking forward to going to the Friday night game and having a few beers before and after the game. It's not the same when you have to go to work the next day. Pity! what a pity, Thai League needs to be more professional with the fixtures |
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« Reply #581 on: August 01, 2010, 05:57:16 AM » |
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I saw on a few websites that the Muangthong v Thai Port was originally scheduled for Fri 6 Aug. I have since seen that the game has been moved to Sunday 8th. I assume that this is now the correct date. It's a pity because I was looking forward to going to the Friday night game and having a few beers before and after the game. It's not the same when you have to go to work the next day. Pity! Thailand play Singapore on 11th August, so maybe game was moved to 6th when it was first announced and thenm the game was cancelled so moved back, but in good old fashion Thai-Sin was then re-confirmed. 8th makes sense anyway. |
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« Reply #582 on: August 01, 2010, 08:42:09 AM » |
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I saw on a few websites that the Muangthong v Thai Port was originally scheduled for Fri 6 Aug. I have since seen that the game has been moved to Sunday 8th. I assume that this is now the correct date. It's a pity because I was looking forward to going to the Friday night game and having a few beers before and after the game. It's not the same when you have to go to work the next day. Pity! Thailand play Singapore on 11th August, so maybe game was moved to 6th when it was first announced and thenm the game was cancelled so moved back, but in good old fashion Thai-Sin was then re-confirmed. 8th makes sense anyway. That will explain why the game was originally planned for the Friday. If the Thailand-Singapore game is back on the game might get rescheduled again. Lets see what happens. |
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« Reply #583 on: August 01, 2010, 11:22:42 PM » |
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I saw on a few websites that the Muangthong v Thai Port was originally scheduled for Fri 6 Aug. I have since seen that the game has been moved to Sunday 8th. I assume that this is now the correct date. It's a pity because I was looking forward to going to the Friday night game and having a few beers before and after the game. It's not the same when you have to go to work the next day. Pity! When the second leg fixtures were first announced, the games were scheduled for the Friday and the Saturday. I just assumed that this was a typo and that the dates should have been Saturday & Sunday as usual. The fact that Chonburi's match at TTM was originally slated for the 6th but is now on the 7th would seem to support this theory. |
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« Reply #584 on: August 03, 2010, 10:17:45 AM » |
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« Reply #585 on: August 03, 2010, 03:42:17 PM » |
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What's the result of the friendly match with Burmese champions Yadanarbon ? MTU showed up sub players ?
I forgot to ask, but from what I got reoprted, the result did not matter. There where too many sub players. A lot from the reserve, but also players from outside. If I remember correctly, a Slovakian lad, which used to play in China, Brasilians, and of course a lot of young lads (mostly?) naturally from Africa. I will be able to sort it out after I received all the pics. |
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« Reply #586 on: August 03, 2010, 04:14:48 PM » |
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« Reply #587 on: August 03, 2010, 05:27:38 PM » |
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« Reply #588 on: August 03, 2010, 05:55:53 PM » |
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Who the heck are those people?
On the left this should be the guy from Slovenia or Slovakia, used to play in China. On the right side, that one guy must be a player from Brazil. They where all there on trial. But it looks like the failed to impress. |
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« Reply #589 on: August 03, 2010, 05:58:56 PM » |
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The number six looks like one of the lads who played for Chonburi against Samut Songkhram at the weekend. There were three of them from Brazil.
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« Reply #590 on: August 04, 2010, 05:44:32 PM » |
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Robert has identified two Ivorian players - both 18 years old - that have talent to replace Yaya.
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« Reply #591 on: August 04, 2010, 05:49:23 PM » |
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« Reply #592 on: August 04, 2010, 08:04:24 PM » |
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The problem we have there Loko is that there are few Thai players coming through the ranks. If there are, I'm sure Rob would be looking to snap them up. We already have talented young Thais in Kawin, Rungsiyo and Teersail but the numbers are limited.
In Africa as we know, the game is well established at grass roots level and youngsters can develop even without lavish facilities. It's an obvious place to spot cheap, young, talented players.
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« Reply #593 on: August 04, 2010, 09:08:53 PM » |
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« Reply #594 on: August 04, 2010, 09:27:21 PM » |
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There's plenty of local talent around. However, certain people have personal interests in bringing African players to Thailand and have been doing so for years. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it. I think you're right, and to remove the risk of any corruption we should ban any team from buying African players. All teams must show financial transparency by purchasing only within Thailand. Violators must be removed! At least that way Army FC have a chance to win the league! Please point out some of the highly rated local talent so we can begin our purge! |
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« Reply #595 on: August 04, 2010, 09:35:01 PM » |
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It's no coincidence that MTUFC were in favour of the 7+5 rule. I'm not suggesting that there's anything underhand going on but a few years ago the only other white face I'd see at games was an agent, who is still involved in Thai football, and he was always accompanied by a few African lads.
There was also the visit of MTUFC to SriRacha in 2008. They were top of the 1st division but the ONLY support they brought with them was a mini-bus full of African schoolboys. There's nothing wrong with importing talent but you have to ask yourself why MTUFC are SO keen in bringing in African players, especially when there's Belgian connection. And who might, or might not, be making a few bob for themselves into the bargain.
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« Reply #596 on: August 04, 2010, 10:12:50 PM » |
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Hey do Thai players, agents and club managers all belong to Transparency International? Are the African agents/players at Chonburi et al. close relatives of Desmond Tutu?
Like I said, show me the local talent who has the potential to equal Yaya and I'll drive Robert to his home myself. (Mind you, with my driving we'd be lucky to get there alive!)
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There's plenty of local talent around. However, certain people have personal interests in bringing African players to Thailand and have been doing so for years. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it. I think you're right, and to remove the risk of any corruption we should ban any team from buying African players. All teams must show financial transparency by purchasing only within Thailand. Violators must be removed! At least that way Army FC have a chance to win the league! Please point out some of the highly rated local talent so we can begin our purge! t.e. there is nothing to say against african or foreign players. But in my oppinion, 7 per squad are simply too much. Steve and Bryan do have the same oppinion. Steve will name this once more, in an upcoming interview with thai-fussball.de. Dont you think that 3 would be enough for the sake and future of Thaifootball? Or something like 5+3? And I still think that there are too much foreigners here with less quality. Just look how they are all now swimming around through the league. Came in 6 months ago, and passed on. Doesn't make sense. If it would limited, I think some coaches need to be more smart in choosing the right player. |
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« Reply #598 on: August 04, 2010, 10:19:05 PM » |
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Yaya was a exception. He was the best player in the league on his day. However, can you honestly say that the vast majority of imports are better than the local lads? I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of foreigners I've seen over the past 13 years who are superior to the Thai players I've seen during the same period.
Ney Fabiano and Nasciamento (sp) at TTM a few years ago were probably the only ones who could rival Yaya. The rest are purely making up the numbers.
Most of the African players who have played for Chonburi since 2004 came via the same agent. He was all over us like a rash when we started doing well.
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No surprise why there youth football is good but hardly any make the grade in the pro game. This has also been the case in Asian football aswell, but the AFC did something about it. The African game on the other hand is open to abuse.
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